yea i'm feeling swans, too, and i love sonic youth (at least the 80s albums, as i've mentioned previously). when i started the thread i figured it'd be a good fight but that SY would come out on top. i'm not so sure now, maybe swans have got a shot...
― Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Xpost: "But then I would also argue that Savage Republic were better than Sonic Youth or Swans or Live Skull." I, for one, would agree.
SY, somewhat grudgingly, as I don't have much time for their post 80's output. But I have none at all for Gira, when all is said and done.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
"Reality Bath" is ok, but it's so badly recorded (double drums never sounded more like double cardboard boxes) that there's no way it's extraordinary. A shame, actually. xpost.
This thread had me pulling out the Cop/Young God era Swans for the first time in a while...made great background music while walking around the upper east side on a wintry day.
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Running the likes of Savage Republic (Live Skull, Dust Devils or whatever) against early SY & Swans, I guess you've got fair fight, but they burned out to early to match the breadth/depth the latter acheived over time. I love Savage Republic, too, but I think I only listen to them so much nowadays 'cuz I've played SY to death.
― Bob Standard, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I was thinking something like that: I could put together a six-song Dustdevils or Rat at Rat R compilation that I like more than any six-song SY/Swans thing, but you're talking 2-4 albums vs. a huge career.
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Speaking of SWANS on the Upper East Side, did I ever mention the time I ran into Michael Gira in (preppie apparel enclave) Brooks Brothers?
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
close!
― Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link
i like the story alex. from what i've heard he's quite pleasant in person.
― Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link
SWANS completely crush Nice Strong Arm. There is no contest. There is no debate. There is no funeral. There is no apology. Just the merciless, humiliating crushing of Nice Strong Arm.
Alex, I have been reading your posts for most of the 21st century so far, and this one is one of my favorites. Add another beer to the tally of beers I owe you.
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 5 December 2007 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think I've ever heard Nice Strong Arm, but I'm 100% convinced by this argument.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link
lurkers win again
― rogermexico., Wednesday, 5 December 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I like both bands,but SY only few early LPs and some songs in the rest of the albums,SWNAS are extreme experience and evolution to the cosmos at the end of his career I think,wante d live video shows!
― almudeno, Thursday, 6 November 2008 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link
LOL
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 May 2017 05:01 (seven years ago) link
If we make this a live poll, it's Swans by a ridiculous margin. And because of that, I pick Swans anyway. Bonus points for having a better sense of when to stop. Double bonus points for better deployment of arguably embarrasing female member. Triple bonus points because Skin/World of Skin is better than any Sonic Youth side project. And so on...
Over 30, but of course.
― dlp9001, Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:34 PM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 06:12 (seven years ago) link
Apparently Gira and Moore didn't speak for years, but they're cool with each other now and Thurston is appearing at a Swans show in London soon. So there's that.
― heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:34 (seven years ago) link