I think, actually, being an encyclopaedia-brained muso type can actually be harmful to being a music-making person. Like, you can never do anything new without thinking "argh, that's not new, that's a b-side of some obscure indie band from the 80s!" which can be kind of crippling. I imagine that not having this weight of history hanging over you can be very freeing.
― girls just wanna have mixtapes (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 12:57 (sixteen years ago)
Dude, THIS is name-dropping. So far in the thread this band reminded of:
AaliyahCocorosieRhianna The CureMissy Elliott The ChromaticsMariah Carey The PixiesYoung Marble Giants MorcheebaChris IsaakWhitest Boy AliveCassieShriekback Everything But the Girl Tricky Jesus and Mary ChainMassive AttackFeltM. WardLOWThe Birthday PartyRed Right Hand Moderat Breathless
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 13:30 (sixteen years ago)
...you left out Dead Can Dance.
― Flowersdie (Beril the peril), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 13:33 (sixteen years ago)
see? It was not easy.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 13:46 (sixteen years ago)
getting big Vengaboys vibes from this myself
― unban dictionary (blueski), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 13:47 (sixteen years ago)
^ didn't want to be the first person to say this. also, rednex
― aarrissi-a-roni, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 13:48 (sixteen years ago)
this thread is just a pale rip off of ____
― thomp, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 13:51 (sixteen years ago)
Their cover of 'Boom-Shack-A-Lack' really brings out elements I'd never really noticed in the original.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 13:59 (sixteen years ago)
can we add Chairlift to that list pls?
― dog latin, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 14:07 (sixteen years ago)
Red Right Hand is a Nick Cave song, it was part of me saying I thought they sounded a bit like the birthday party but then saying that it was only because the sound was so crap where I saw them that they sounded completely different.
― plax (I know, right?), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 14:07 (sixteen years ago)
I think the funny thing here is that this band are so minimal that it's VERY easy to project lots of soundalikes or thinkalikes on them as influences.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 14:08 (sixteen years ago)
If I wrote for The Guardian I'd write some crap like 'this record is the history of pop music from 1981 to these days'.
and then I would rule the world.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)
what is funny is how easily this is sitting on my ipod with clubroot, distance and that fourtet/burial, not suggesting that it sounds anything like them, just that the transition doesn't jar.
― plax (I know, right?), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)
i was serious when i said shiny toy guns btw. probably rong but serious, haven't heard stg in at least a year
― to ehhhhhhrrrrrr (tremendoid), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:14 (sixteen years ago)
really liking "crystalised" so far and the album reminds me a bit of the awesome D Lissvik album from last year. I still play that one all the time.
― cryptic jackassery (tricky), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:17 (sixteen years ago)
u forgot Tim F's Insides meets Colder comparison. which is true tbh now that ive listened to this more. esp. 'heart skipped a beat'. im loving this now. def. up in my top 5 of the year.
― Michael B, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:20 (sixteen years ago)
Ha if the Insides album came out now people would probably believe it was dubstep influenced. Given dubstep in the broad sense means atmospherics + bass + torpid tempos any such "influence" can be real and still meaningless. Any well-produced UK post-post-punk can make the same claim.
The R&B references strike me as kinda misleading unless you're the kind of person who thinks Aaliyah's blankness is good because it makes her sound like an indie singer. To flip it the other way round and put it more sympathetically, I get the sense that what The XX like about R&B is stuff they also like in music closer to their own style, and then try to emphasise it - reserve, brittle perfection, emphasis on phrasing etc. So the real meaning of "woah these guys like dubstep and R&B" may be "therefore they probably also like and make the kind of indie that we who like R&B and dubstep can get with."
All that said I think The XX would do a totally life-changing cover version of Missy's "Hot Boys".
In fact it shocks me that no-one has tried that trick yet.
(if any indie group wants to hire me as a svengali this is my real email address)
― Tim F, Sunday, 20 September 2009 01:23 (sixteen years ago)
ha, oh shit, yes.
― lex pretend, Sunday, 20 September 2009 05:35 (sixteen years ago)
unless you're the kind of person who thinks Aaliyah's blankness is good because it makes her sound like an indie singer.
Excuse me while I take a hammer to my cranium.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 20 September 2009 08:10 (sixteen years ago)
the bit on islands where he goes "that bridge is on fi-er" is so great, each line of that voice has this little gap that makes the following symbol sound like the extension of a yawn.
― plax (I know, right?), Monday, 21 September 2009 22:48 (sixteen years ago)
*verse, not voice
― plax (I know, right?), Monday, 21 September 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)
All that said I think The XX would do a totally life-changing cover version of Missy's "Hot Boys".In fact it shocks me that no-one has tried that trick yet.
Actually Casiotone for the Painfully Alone and Dear Nora did that a couple of years back...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaFrln3wGU
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 01:48 (sixteen years ago)
...WHY DID I STOP LISTENING TO CASIOTONE TWO ALBUMS AGO >:(
That's fucking awesome.
― More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 02:40 (sixteen years ago)
See, you miss out on these things if you're not careful. :-D
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)
This album is great, it sounds like the followup to Stars' "Nightsongs" which Stars are clearly never going to make, having been corrupted by Broken Social Scene. Except Nightsongs is all Smithy while this album is all Curey.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 07:22 (sixteen years ago)
having been corrupted by Broken Social Scene
that's crazy talk, and if Teh XX ever write a song fit to touch the hem of Stars' garments I will take back what I said miles upthread. But it'll never happen.
― Bill A, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:04 (sixteen years ago)
Broken Social Scene has poisoned a lot of good individual artists, FACT.
Still think this album is mostly a dud, though. Except for "Crystalised," which I'll rep for until the end of time.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:06 (sixteen years ago)
What I mean is that BSS may have poisoned others, but their necrotic grip has never had done anything bad to Stars who are the shining jewel of the whole A&C stable by a country mile.
― Bill A, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:18 (sixteen years ago)
I'm still not convinced by these guys, but I'm hoping one day it'll click and they'll become my favourite band ever.
― dog latin, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:01 (sixteen years ago)
I'm just saying Stars have yet to revisit the icy coolness of Nightsongs, which the XX have so effortlessly tapped into on their debut album. And I can't help thinking it has to do with exposure to beards.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 11:02 (sixteen years ago)
They're on Jools Holland tonight for anyone with BBC.
― plazzTT, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)
Thanks!
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)
"their TV debut"
― plazzTT, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:56 (sixteen years ago)
She looks like Fat Bob, no?
― Flowersdie (Beril the peril), Friday, 9 October 2009 12:47 (sixteen years ago)
I really like that "You've Got The Love" cover/remix they've done for Fat Machine.
― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Friday, 9 October 2009 12:51 (sixteen years ago)
It helps that she doesn't really appear on it.
Way late to the party, but this just came out in the States. Really, really fucking good.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2009 13:00 (sixteen years ago)
This was out in Boston at the beginning of September!
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Friday, 9 October 2009 13:07 (sixteen years ago)
Hmmmm, I don't know. It still is a $30 import on Amazon and most of the stores I asked at told me an October 20th date, but it happened to pop up in Best Buy of all places last week.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2009 13:11 (sixteen years ago)
Nevermind, scratch that part about Amazon, I can't read this morning.
Anyway, I'm really really loving this.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2009 13:12 (sixteen years ago)
you are right, it came out just this week in America or on October 6.
― Bee OK, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)
I certainly didn't pay import price for it! huh
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Friday, 9 October 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)
i like the mention of similarity to stars "nightsongs"--hadn't thought of that.
― cutty, Friday, 9 October 2009 15:02 (sixteen years ago)
I tried listening to this over the weekend, but failed to make it more than three songs deep. It is not understated and spacious. It is empty and more empty. Why do people want to be so rong about thigns?
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:10 (sixteen years ago)
I don't know, why don't you tell us? Kidding aside, I still think this is a beautiful album, I'm not sure why it is so confounding that people might love this.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)
Wasn't being all that serious. I'm used to people digging stuff I don't get. Would have to give a closer listen to provide a useful critique, and I'm not drawn to do that anytime soon. And who knows?, maybe I'll like it next time around.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:58 (sixteen years ago)
They make emptiness a virtue.
― on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)
^^^ This really is key. And I know this was discussed upthread, but I think the Young Marble Giants comparison is very apt. Not that the bands sound similar, but they both make fantastic use of the open space in their songs.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:08 (sixteen years ago)
they're prob a v good example of what rtc hinted at in the dizzee thread - an act you have to go 75% of the way to meet, and you have to already value very specific traits. like emptiness and stillness. i like this: they weed out the people who demand to be whacked over the head w/hooks from the first listen.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:08 (sixteen years ago)
I don't demand to be whacked over the head with hooks. I just demand to be whacked over the head by something other than a denatured, style-conscious aping of far more interesting things (my first impression, admittedly incomplete). Say this as a YMG & Burial fan.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:14 (sixteen years ago)