yeah that takes it the creepy extreme but "no reply" has that sorta stalkerish vibe too
― President Emeritus, Fancy Chord Club (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)
Speaking of For Sale, I think I prefer the stereo on this one (listening on headphones to decent bitrate mp3s).
― Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)
Was going to start listening to more Beatles, but I'm still waiting for the hype to die down.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)
Hahaha. Yeah, you wouldn't want to find yourself sharing the Beatles with anyone else!
― Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)
Agreed about how awesome the stereo version of "Beatles for Sale" sounds.
McCartney's vocals really jump out on "Baby's in Black". Also love the cymbal crashes on "No Reply", the acoustic guitar on "Honey Don't", and harmonies on "Eight Days a Week". Plus, the refined bass tone really rocks on "Rock and Roll Mucic" and "Kansas City".
All in all, this is my favorite remastering job of the first 5 albums.
― Darin, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah the harmonies on "Baby's In Black" become more affecting in stereo somehow.
I really haven't a/b'ed these much yet, mostly going through the lot sequentially in mono first, but after listening to the mono For Sale I had to go compare the stereo.
― Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)
ffs my Sgt Pepper CD skips in two different places - it's enough to put you off buying music.
― Bob Six, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)
I've been rewatching the Anthology on youtube and they talk about mono v. stereo recording/mixing here:
you lie!
― Young Scott Young (sic), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 01:36 (sixteen years ago)
could someone direct me to the definitive beatles album poll pls?
― *⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 01:46 (sixteen years ago)
Not a poll but this 'Only Pick 10' thread threw up some interesting choices: The Beatles OP10 (or, that would be, only pick ten)
― piscesx, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 03:05 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah - I watched that Anthology clip and sat through the Ballad of John and Yoko - easily my least favourite single of theirs. Is this the new rickrolling...
― Bob Six, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 06:35 (sixteen years ago)
Ha, I must have posted the rong youtube, I'm sorry! I'll find it later, after I've had some caffiene.
― Like BANG! Bust 'em in the wang like it aint no thang (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 09:03 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2J9zIuredY
About 4 and a half minutes in.
― Like BANG! Bust 'em in the wang like it aint no thang (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 11:21 (sixteen years ago)
argh, embedding disabled on request. screw it, watch it for yourself. :)
― Like BANG! Bust 'em in the wang like it aint no thang (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 11:23 (sixteen years ago)
As for chart positions, the Norwegian chart has listed the stereo box as an item of its own, which places it at #3. The stereo box is now sold out though, so I would expect the single albums to climb considerably next week. So far, "Abbey Road", "Sgt. Pepper", "Revolver" and "The Beatles" are in the list, but only between 20 and 40.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:45 (sixteen years ago)
So are there loads of Mono ones over there?
It's funny, I looked at the Mono box, and the back was all "ooh, you are obviously a discerning Beatles fan! Not for you the easy digipack of the Stereo box, with it's admittedly more CDs in it. This box has lovely facsimile replications of the sleeves and inners and extra inserts where applicable. And a book telling you about the importance of the mono mixes in the legend of the Beatles. But of course you know all that already, right?"
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:49 (sixteen years ago)
Both boxes are sold out, but apparently both are supposed to back in, at least judging from what Platekompaniet (the biggest chain here) are telling their customers, who can apply for ordering new boxes, both stereo and mono alike.
I already have my stereo box and have no intention of buying anything else at all.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:16 (sixteen years ago)
I dug up my mono LPs, everything pretty much up to the White album.
Except for "Beatles for Sale", my nice German original Odeon one. ahhh....
Also, there's something about that green label on the "Hard days night" one as well.
(both of those are stereo)
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:21 (sixteen years ago)
Will be buying another remaster within the next week or two, and I'm completely torn.
White album? or Revolver?
And I have a dumb-ish question...Geir, you're exempt from this one, lol...is it worthwhile picking up the stereo remasters of any/all of the first 5, pre-Rubber Soul? I want the Mono Box so bad, but who knows when that'll ever happen...are any of the first 5 albums better now than before with the stereo remaster? I have 87's of Hard Day's Night and Help...And I know this is basically what you've all been talking about since 9/9, but I think I've been reading so much that I've stunted my decision making completely. HALP :)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 September 2009 03:59 (sixteen years ago)
Every one of these remasters sounds better than what we've heard before. Unless you have a mono box pre-ordered, I don't think you'll regret picking up any of these in stereo.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 18 September 2009 04:22 (sixteen years ago)
I've got a late in the game Amazon order on the Mono box, but I'm pretty sure it's a pipe dream at this stage of the game.
thanks Nate!!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 September 2009 04:35 (sixteen years ago)
Well, if you're serious enough to order the Mono Box, you might wanna just wait? :)
Overall though, they took 4 years to remaster these from the original master tapes. They sound awesome and the packaging is really nice.
I just dug out all my old mono vinyl. Never really gave them much notice til all this hoopla. I'm still dying to hear mono Pepper.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 18 September 2009 04:40 (sixteen years ago)
Well...when I say "order"...it's in the hopes that my husband will take pity on my desperation and buy it for me for Christmas. But he thinks I'm 100% nuts.
The mono Pepper is what I'm going nuts to hear. In my mind it's been built up to be like the unicorn of recorded music. And I don't want any leaked mp3 guff...must have the real thing.
Seriously, these remasters have given me some kind of crazyperson disease.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 September 2009 05:37 (sixteen years ago)
wouldn't the real thing be vinyl?
― drakeula vs the roflman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 18 September 2009 05:40 (sixteen years ago)
turntable broken & I am lazy. 'real' thing = cd, in my world right now.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 September 2009 05:58 (sixteen years ago)
I'd say between Revolver and the White Album, I'd go with the latter. A few songs on Revolver sound vastly improved (Dr. Roberts, Got to Get You Into My Life), but the White Album.... oh man... I hear all kinds of stuff on every track I've never heard before.
― Darin, Friday, 18 September 2009 06:28 (sixteen years ago)
My most listened is probably the 2nd disc of Past Masters.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 September 2009 06:41 (sixteen years ago)
I feel ya. If Mono Sgt Pepper isn't the culmination of all music pre 1967, the internet will have lied.
that said, if you go to youtube there's pretty much everything you could need there.
It helped me realise the stereo separation is more intrusive than the lack of it.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Friday, 18 September 2009 09:19 (sixteen years ago)
I dont like the mono. It's presumably years of being weaned on stereo, but mono just sounds very small and flat to me. I just back-to-backed Pepper and preferred the stereo (admittedly this was on headphones and I'll try on speakers later).
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 September 2009 09:45 (sixteen years ago)
Veg Grrrl, I think the remastered stereo Beatles For Sale sounds awesome and I prefer it to the mono in my trials so far. Same with Hard Day's Night. Help! I'm still on the fence about, stereo-v-mono-wise.
― Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Friday, 18 September 2009 15:15 (sixteen years ago)
The only mono one I might prefer is Rubber Soul.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 September 2009 15:47 (sixteen years ago)
I just clued in on one thing:
The Yellow Sub mono: Most of the tracks are available on other albums, the "Mono Masters" has the leftover/new tracks on it.
So, I guess you could make your own.
― Mark G, Friday, 18 September 2009 15:49 (sixteen years ago)
It's all clear as mud, really, isn't it. Haha.
I think White Album will definitely be my next purchase. I was listening to the 87 cd in the car this morning and just imagining how much better it's going to sound with the remaster, given how great Abbey sounds.
Husband is oddly trying to dissuade me from buying the earlier albums in stereo, so maybe he's gonna front for that Mono box after all. Stay tuned at Christmastime! Lol.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 September 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)
So at this point we could call this whole board "I Love Beatles"
― Evan, Friday, 18 September 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)
All Beatles All The Time
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)
(a Mono box) is All You Need.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 19 September 2009 01:30 (sixteen years ago)
You Never Give Me Your (Mono Boxes)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 19 September 2009 02:24 (sixteen years ago)
Has Rubber Soul always been such a bitter fucking record? I love it.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 September 2009 09:36 (sixteen years ago)
That's what all the would-be Beatle imitators and power poppers miss and get totally wrong. The Beatles were always more than cheery 'Love Me Do's' and mop topped "Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs." There is a lot of paranoia, bitterness, and dark shadows to the music. I've been listening a lot to Magical Mystery Tour; especially 'I Am the Walrus'. The ending sounds like Cabaret Voltaire in acid freak-out, meltdown mode, or take 'She Said, She Said,' with its schizoid lyrics and swirling, disoriented nearly post-punk sounding guitar twists and turns. Late Beatles could be a downright scary. Maybe it was the mop topped myths of the sixties that kept people from seeing it, but when I listen to them now I'm continually struck by how dark the music and lyrics could be.
― leavethecapital, Saturday, 19 September 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)
I shouldn't have said all the Beatles imitators, Big Star got it.
― leavethecapital, Saturday, 19 September 2009 14:09 (sixteen years ago)
especially 'I Am the Walrus'. The ending sounds like Cabaret Voltaire in acid freak-out, meltdown mode, or take 'She Said, She Said,' with its schizoid lyrics and swirling, disoriented nearly post-punk sounding guitar twists and turns.
well, you know. sounds *a lot better* than shitty post-punk records tbqh.
― history mayne, Saturday, 19 September 2009 17:09 (sixteen years ago)
The Beatles were always more than cheery 'Love Me Do's' and mop topped "Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs." There is a lot of paranoia, bitterness, and dark shadows to the music.
Sometimes, yes, but I would say the former is what they do better.
Plus some of their followers have managed to copy the paranoia/melancholy to a full extent too. Crowded House, for instance....
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 19 September 2009 19:31 (sixteen years ago)
Well, I don't know if copying's the right word. Beatles didn't exactly corner the market on depression. CH had a couple of nervous breakdowns and a manic/depressive drummer in the mix, paranoia & melancholy are bound to rear their heads sooner or later. But they certainly had a lot of Beatley qualities, I'll grant you that much.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 19 September 2009 21:42 (sixteen years ago)
One thing that puzzles me when listening to "Beatles For Sale" is how it sounds like the reverb on the "No Reply" vocal is occasionally falling out, and then coming back again. I am pretty sure it wasn't like that on the older copies I have been familiar with. Is this a mistake in the current remasters, or just details that haven't been possible to hear on previous versions?
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 20 September 2009 20:05 (sixteen years ago)
anyone?
― Mark G, Monday, 21 September 2009 07:17 (sixteen years ago)
Mano-a-mono, dude.
― all you need is love vs. money (that's what i want) (Ioannis), Monday, 21 September 2009 07:23 (sixteen years ago)
Well, I am speaking of the stereo version obv ;)
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 21 September 2009 13:24 (sixteen years ago)
Lengthy BBC Radio piece here with George Martin and all kinds of discussion concerning the remasters and the technology behind them: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=297
― Pancakes Batman (Pancakes Hackman), Monday, 21 September 2009 13:32 (sixteen years ago)
Just checked online, local library has the Lewisohn 'Beatles Recording sessions' book on the shelf. YOINK!
I may need a 12 step program if this keeps up.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 21 September 2009 22:20 (sixteen years ago)
Thanks for the BBC George Martin link. Really good show!
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 21 September 2009 22:21 (sixteen years ago)