"White Spyder" is good
― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 8 March 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Machina 2 has some nice things on it, depending what flavor of Pumpkins you go for. It's all less polished than MCIS, but thankfully less overcookeed than Machina itself. For the rawk I would go for "Glass' Theme," "Car Star," "White Spider"... then there are some nice lush midtempo things, mainly "If There Is A God," "Here's To The Atom Bomb," and James Iha's lovely "Go." "Lucky 13" has sweet drumming and a cool weirdo riff, kinda feels like a turned-down "The End Is The Beginning Is The End."
It's all DEFINITELY worth hearing if you're a fan.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link
It also seems to be where some of the Adore-era rock material ended up, if I understand the chronology correctly. I remember a Spin interview around the time of Adore where the interviewer was like "I visited you in the studio and heard all these awesome rock songs and none of them are on the album" and Billy was like, well, they didn't fit in well, or something like that. I'm almost certain "Dross" is one of those songs, for example - but Ned would be able to clarify...
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
tonight I heard a dance remix of "Zero"? Anybody know where I can find this?
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 9 March 2008 04:35 (sixteen years ago) link
omg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfTYbqUTZG0
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 9 March 2008 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link
wow, what a find
― Simon H., Sunday, 9 March 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Hahah, what a cute widdle goth boy he was. "Dude I saw that one Cure Lovecats video, I have an idea!"
but Ned would be able to clarify...
Really, the whole slew of songs recorded from 96-97 onward all become this bizarre mass of material. I'd say just go here and check out individual song histories as best as they are known. (For instance, that indicates "Dross" was done no earlier than late 98, where, say, "For Martha" first hit tape in 1994.)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 March 2008 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link
bumping 1 day early
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 23 March 2008 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Monday, 24 March 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Where's the Aeroplane Flies poll?
― billstevejim, Monday, 24 March 2008 01:14 (sixteen years ago) link
This is a nigh on impossible choice. I went with "To Forgive" in the end. If I could pick one "loud" one and one "quiet" one it might be a little easier. I might go with "X.Y.U." for my choice for the former.
I hope enough people vote in this to make the results interesting.
― krakow, Monday, 24 March 2008 09:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Single disc version:
Zero Thirty-Three Here Is No Why Fuck You Love Cupid De Locke Galapagos Muzzle Porcelina of the Vast Oceans Bodies In The Arms of Sleep 1979 Thru The Eyes of Ruby By Starlight
― Tim F, Monday, 24 March 2008 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Mellon Collie needs the line "the world is a vampire" in it somewhere.
― billstevejim, Monday, 24 March 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
-- billstevejim, Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
^^^^
― Alex in Baltimore, Monday, 24 March 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Do it by disc not song though pls.
― nickalicious, Monday, 24 March 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link
haha I made a bicycling mix tape this weekend and it has "Jellybelly" on it 3 times.
― nickalicious, Monday, 24 March 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Also as a seasoned cynical adult and not an optimistic hormonal teenager, I am really impressed at how strong a reaction I still have emotionally to "Galapagos".
― nickalicious, Monday, 24 March 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Surprised bullet did so well!
― nickalicious, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Dissappointed bullet did so well.
― our work is never over, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link
You crazy
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Whoever voted "Take Me Down" deserves some credit.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Those three songs deserved at least one vote!
― Duane Barry, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Disappointed bullet did so well.
Ditto. Also how did "Scorched" get two but "X.Y.U." only got one?
― Simon H., Tuesday, 25 March 2008 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link
"Bullet" is a great song, guys. Admit it. (I wouldn't have voted for it, but I'm certainly not disappointed!)
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link
a lot of people seem to voting, having only heard the singles...
― Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link
That was my first thought when I saw the results too. The singles are disappointingly prominent, when for me at least they are by far the less interesting songs on the album.
― krakow, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 08:26 (sixteen years ago) link
hahah yeah, pretty amazing that the likes of 'thru the eyes of ruby' should be so comprehensively overlooked in favour of the (admittedly more immediate-sounding) 'bullet with butterfly wings'
― Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 08:32 (sixteen years ago) link
"1979" a deserving front-runner though (even if I prefer "Thirty-Three").
― Tim F, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link
"Beautiful" should have gotten at least one vote just for the "na na na" part.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link
"beautiful" is a really sweet track.
― the next grozart, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link
GOAT album
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
is the "Mellon Collie and The Infinite Ga Ga Goo Goo" boot any good? I saw them on the tour after this (I think Veruca Salt opened? I was like 11) and I would lvoe to hear what they sounded like, that seems like the msot popular one
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
No votes for 'Beautiful'? Fuck, man.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
"Mellon Collie and The Infinite Ga Ga Goo Goo"
lol
― how's life, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
Hard for me to think that any song besides "1979" should win this. It's also hard to believe that the time between now and when "1979" came out (1995) is longer than between 1979 and 1995.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
1979 is so overrated, it's good for the first minute or so and then it just does the same thing for another three minutes
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, if I compiled a Top 10 of my favourites from this album, '1979' wouldn't make it in there. I love the way '1979' sounds, but I definitely think there's much much better songs than it here.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
Poliopolice = the Accidental Parodist
― que sera sriracha (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
this describes most songs though. i like this song because it, more than any other song on the album, captures an elusive nostalgia that is hard to describe. Most of this album is full of lazy, indistinct, by-the-numbers Pumpkins tracks that sound like they were cranked out very quickly. "33" is good though.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
1979, here is no why, ruby, tonight, muzzle, porcelina are the most euphoric songs on the record so they will always win over the dour/angry/goofy songs. even though the range of moods is what makes mcis so amazing.
― yellow jacket (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
― Heyman (crüt), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
Crut OTM.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
Aeroplane Flies High is every bit as good as Mellon Collie. They were riding a ridiculous songwriting hot streak at the time. "Cherry"? "Meladori Magpie"? The beautiful piano cover of "My Blue Heaven"? "Ugly"? "Set the Ray to Jerry"? "God"? That rocking instrumental with the drum solo? All great great stuff.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
it bums me out that Aeroplane isn't on Spotify
― some dude, Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, I just went looking for it there. ;_;
― Heyman (crüt), Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
reissue coming v soon. with even more c sides
― yellow jacket (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 11 April 2013 04:55 (eleven years ago) link
Neato
― que sera sriracha (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 11 April 2013 05:12 (eleven years ago) link
ZERO, people
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 11 April 2013 12:16 (eleven years ago) link
where boys fear to tread, lately. monster riff
― flappy bird, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link