Why is everyone not going totally bonkers about the junior boys?

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Yes, the vinyl issue is problem but there isn't a market for CD singles. Unless you're going to get something in the top 30 no one stocks it, and it won't reach the charts without alot of money, no matter how strong the material is.

― nick.K (nick.K), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

no one stocks it

ahem*towerus*ahem

― Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Pitchfork came correct - check the press and other sections.

― nick.K (nick.K), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i gotta hear this coloma record.

― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

'veered into industrial territory'?!?!?!

who the fuck wrote that? offlist, nick!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

it's all i'm listening to at home, almost

― David. (Cozen), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott Pl. and I fought for this at Pitchfork for a few weeks. We both love her, uh, him, uh, them.

― Beta, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The Junior Boys' line-up changes on many of the tracks which'd explain why it's not clear who they are. And besides, I prefer it when you're not sure exactly what you're listening to.

― nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

we don't need to know, we just want to hear more!

― kattie, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Would it be a little impatient of me to ask when an album might appear?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, when do we get more?

― kattie, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Another Junior Boys EP very early in the new year and an album in april 2004.
why so long??? because there's no point releasing anything between oct-jan, it's the silly season when the majors take over. Obviously it's possible to put something out but it's not worth the risk with a barely known band. Meanwhile I'll be putting bits and pieces on the site - mixes, demos, sets, etc...

― nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Whats with all the IDM remixers nick, how about getting some 2-step remixes, or even some electro ones, easier said than done I'm sure, but the theres a certain 'pop' sound to the JBs that would benefit from a less "alt" remix treatment doncha think?

― jk_ (jk@gabba), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick K's got some business head on him! I like it! These (Junior) boys will go far...

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i say don't bother with remixes.

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

flat meeting says this is banned from the flat. reason: overplay. wtf?! taste fascists.

― kent (Cozen), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

kill them.

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 7 November 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

remixes..... yes. I'm open to suggestions (the JBz are another matter). There are a couple of extremely hip people who've expressed interest, but I do worry, some of the tracks are very fragile and could damage easily (ok, so we can rule out Kanye West) but post up names if you can think of an artist, someone who could add another dimension to their sound. It's quite possible the EPs/remixes will be gathered onto a CD next year - make them more available.

― nick.K (nick.K), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Jammer!

More seriously, Coloma and Junior Boys should remix eachother! And I can imagine Superpitcher doing some great indie-house classic a la "Dream of Evan & Chan" with a lot of the tracks.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 8 November 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

get spiritualized to mix them. they did a good job on lfo.

― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 8 November 2003 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

morgan geist?

― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 8 November 2003 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

[pause] superpitcher... super-pitcher... damn, why do things like this happen in the middle of the night. Wonder if it'll sound as good in my head on Monday.

― nick.K (nick.K), Saturday, 8 November 2003 03:04 (twenty-two years ago)

come monday, jst remember how to spell superpitcher!

― brutal (Cozen), Saturday, 8 November 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

Thanks everyone, here's an Xmas card from KIN [shockwave]

― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 18 December 2003 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)

When is the next release due?

― pixel, Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

KIN002, the next release is out Feb 2003. Already some strong feedback on the promos that were sent out, notably tufluv and sherburne.

― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Just have to post and say that this is the best music I heard last year. No doubt someone to watch.

― pm, Thursday, 25 December 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

having just heard this for the first time, i'm gutted that more people weren't telling me about junior boys, and sooner.

last exit is lush.

― Nik (Nik), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

they should be massive, I want everyone to know about them

― pm, Thursday, 25 December 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Junior Boys
favorite tracks.

― pm, Thursday, 25 December 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard this on the radio the other night, Dj was saying that it was one of 2003's best tracks.

― dr.0845, Friday, 26 December 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, this sounds nothing like I expected. I love it.

It sounds like Telefon Tel Aviv with vocals except way more sparse.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 27 December 2003 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

can anyone work out the lyrics to the third line of "birthday"? "(something something something something) anyway"?

― kin, Sunday, 28 December 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

not sure of the specifics, but I've never really tried to figure them out: it's so resigned, beautifully mumbled, as if he doesn't really want you to hear him indulging himself. Conversational lyrics done right can really make a track, I'm really pushing to get someone to do a track with a cheesy phone conversation - something like 'Chromeo - Needy Girl', Ken Laszlo - 'Hey Hey Guy', also it gives DJ's sonewhere to mix out.

― nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 28 December 2003 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...

there's a wire review for the second ep

― pm, Saturday, 24 January 2004 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

It took me long enough, but I finally got to hear this. It's even more lame considering I bought the 12" but left London without getting to play it. So, my rereading of this lengthy thread is justified by now being able to give this EP some hearfelt props. I'll order in any future releases til I return home - I'm that impressed.

― Barima (Barima), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"High Come Down" isn't very good.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought the first Ep on boomkat and was duly knocked out, and from what I've heard so far "High Come Down" is better than "Birthday" and that's saying something. Can't wait for an album

― pp, Monday, 26 January 2004 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

jed- I love you, but you are mad.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

finally heard 'High Come Down', and while I've been a bit skeptical, when combined with "Birthday", I am now a full fledged totally bonkers Junior Boys fan. Yay.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 07:16 (twenty-two years ago)

been listening to a cdr of the two JBeez EPs & The World of Arthur Russell in tandem; some haunted synchronicity going on . . .

(haha when will more material be available? & what's this about Manitoba remixing "Birthday"?)

― etc, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

what some people call "haunted synchronicity" others would call "rip-off."

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

are you seriously simplifying both artists, their backgrounds and the context to suggest JBs are derivative of arthur russell. if anything's tired and derivative, it's your posturing. i mean, jeez...

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)

ah, here we go again, express an opinion contrary to the sheep and they "baa" idiotically.

get this straight, the junior boys are not the second coming, they are not god's gift to music (they are not even god's gift the grime mc come to that), they are NOT THAT GREAT.

also arthur russell was and is a genius, i've heard calling out of context, so unless you have as well, then either put up or shut up.

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha Phoebe but presumably Junior Boys haven't heard the mysterious Calling Out of Context (or hadn't two years ago when these songs were made) so it's a bit harsh to say rip-off. Plus it ignores all the other sources Junior Boys "rip-off" (Timbaland, 2-step, Gary Numan etc. etc. ad nauseum). "Ripping off" implies intentionality or awareness, and a certain stylistic myopia to boot. I doubt the first applies here and I'm certain the second doesn't.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

well yeah, we've all heard arthur russell with. it's your pompous statement that irks. it's not about junior boys being the second coming, it's about how you can beach up and compare the two without any explanation. where's the link between the two, i don't see it?

you never explain yrself, yr just some tired old patrician.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick Luscombe played the Junior Boys (High Come Down i think) on XFM's 'Flow-motion' on Sunday night - show opener even, good stuff

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

(xpost)

i don't need to explain myself, other people pay me to do that, and i'd rather be a tired old patrician than a futureless pleb like you, so don't try it.

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm paid to be polite to people but I don't see why I shouldn't do it for free otherwise.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

OH LORD "DON'T TRY IT" IS BECOMING A MEME.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

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