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And (way x-post)she has already produced a slice of genius and it was called Milkshake. I'm amazed that The Lex didn't/hasn't realised this.

eh? i know! where did i say otherwise?

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 4 August 2006 07:13 (seventeen years ago) link

"Kelis is back :) Both 'Kaleidoscope' and 'Wanderland' are patchy, but she's an amazing pop star and one day she will make a masterpiece.
-- The Lex (alex_macpherso...) (webmail), September 1st, 2003 2:25 PM. (The Lex) (link)"

This post seemed to imply that you didn't think Milkshake was her masterpiece, bearing in mind that Milkshake was already released at this stage.

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

He was referring to albums obviously. In terms of song-masterpieces, there's half a dozen songs on Kaleidoscope alone that are miles beyond "Milkshake", and at least several on Wanderland to boot.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i completely disown that statement, neither kaleidoscope nor wanderland are remotely patchy, I have no idea where my ears were at back then at all.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 5 August 2006 07:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Kaleidoscope is patchy.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 09:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Compared to what modern R&B album? I at least like all of the tracks on there, and "Good Stuff", "Caught Out There", "Get Along With You", "Mafia", "Suspended", "No Turning Back" and "Roller Rink" are all excellent. 7 excellent tracks on an R&B album is about as much as one can hope for.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"No Turning Back" was always my jam, but if it had come out even 12 months later it would probably have seemed like another generic Neptunes production - listening to this again makes me feel intensely nostalgic for when I only knew The Neptunes for this album, "Got Your Money" and "Superthug". I actually remember the day I bought Kaleidoscope, I was so excited.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the highpoints just make the surrounding material sound half-assed? That might be more like it.

Anyway, I dunno, I just found it an incredibly uneven listen... I actually sold it and I LOVE Kelis really! But this probably says more about my fussiness in general than the actual record in the end.

I do want to smack Pharrell quite early on in Kaleidoscope though - TOO. MANY. SHOUTOUTS. X(

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

It's true, Pharell was modelling himself on Jermaine Dupri on this album I think.

I'm forgiving of the weaker tracks: even half-arsed material like "Ghetto Children" is kinda goofy and silly and fun. And the run from "Good Stuff" to "Mafia" is the strongest four song succession on an R&B album that I can think of offhand.

Just listened to "Caught Out There" again, I'd forgotten the spoken-word intro. "....WHO'VE BEEN LIED TO BY THEIR MEN! AND I KNOW Y'ALL BEEN LIED TO! OVER & OVER AGAIN!"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link

And the "Dear Diary" bit in "Get Along With You"!

The Neptunes were never this pretty again, sadly.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I probably sold this hastily to be fair. I could possibly be more forgiving now...

Still think the beat is MASSIVELY too high & hard in the mix on "Get Along With You" (another reason for smacking! and I don't like that fake i.d. mix either..) which REALLY pisses me because that track seriously 'got' me unexpected one night when I was in a post break-up state of mind.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Hope this new album is good...

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

"Bossy" isn't exceptional and not even as good as any of the "Tasty" singles OR that amazing Björk remix(!) but it's still... fairly good.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

[i]Just for the record, it's not an 808. I'm sick of people calling any minimal electro kit an 808!

Also, this song is awful. Kelis has so little charisma, it makes me uncomfortable just to listen to it.[i/]

sounds like an 808 kick but the maracas are definately not 808. clap could have been originally. i was just lazy and got tricked by the lyrics. sadly the songs appeal has started to wear out but i got a couple of good weeks out of it. maybe there will be another good song on the album.

ps. i have noticed since last posting how much i love how she says: "i switched up the beat of the drum" she sounds like an ignorant, petulant 8 year old girl. great.

Andrew Harrison (andrewtothemax), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:52 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, so no bbcode right?
can i use html?

Andrew Harrison (andrewtothemax), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

lets find out...

Andrew Harrison (andrewtothemax), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

guess not!

Andrew Harrison (andrewtothemax), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

this is crazy!!! so i can only use some html tags? how do i know which ones??

Andrew Harrison (andrewtothemax), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoever said Bossy is fun for about 5 seconds was OTM after all.

rollin', rollin', rollin', keep them dogies rollin', rawhide! thread (fandango), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't be bothered, but i'm guessing if i scrolled up i'd find that that person was you?

i just downloaded the switch and the falke and braxe remixes and they are all teh suxxor.

Andrew Harrison (andrewtothemax), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, but no I was just being flippant.

I was thinking of Rodney's comment probably.

rollin', rollin', rollin', keep them dogies rollin', rawhide! thread (fandango), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
nobody cares about "blindfold me"? this must take her off at least one dud list

Will M., Monday, 26 February 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

'blindfold me' is fantastic, probably my favourite song on the album. polow da don does lil' jon! kelis totally gets into the spirit of this whole crunk thing.

lex pretend, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm quite liking the new "Little Star" single. "Blindfold Me" is alright. The video is superhot. (Yes, I'm a kinky mf like that.)

The Reverend, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I love KWH! It made my Top 10 albums list for the year. So much goodness.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

i'm on the tennis court this morning and what pops into my head but BOSSY! so random, playing tennis with that video in mind.

Surmounter, Thursday, 14 August 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I always thought it was cruel of her to dye her poodle green in that video. At least you weren't playing tennis with "Blindfold Me" video in mind. That would've been weird.

danzig, Thursday, 14 August 2008 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Know what's a great song? Help Me, the track she did with Timo Maas some years back.

chap, Thursday, 19 March 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

"Milskahe" bridge = best bridge EVAH
Kills me every time.

Turangalila, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"Help Me" is classic and more people should know about it. Sadly, this chick's career is kinda dead. I've been a fan (moreso of her persona) since day one and hoped that one day she would make a real masterpiece of an album front to back, but I don't see it happening. Wanderland was the closest she came, imo. I hope the future proves me rong.

Spinspin Sugah, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

kaleidoscope is so freakin good

just sayin, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Is Kelis still single? Kelis, call me!

bamcquern, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm4q9NCBVkY

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

holy donna summer! digging it.

jabba hands, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Is this an actual Kelis single or some kind of collab-o? The production reminds me of Stephan Bodzin circa 2006/2007.

It's good.

I wonder whether if she (or whoever) came up with the lyrics to the chorus ("Before you my whole life was a cappella...") before or after hearing the breakdown.

Tim F, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link

No clue, but it's good to have her back. I quite like this. While Kelis Was Here never grew on me the way I wanted it to, Kaleidoscope and Wanderland are 00s classics.

I remember Patrick Wolf tweeting something a couple of months back about getting to write/produce a track or two with Kelis for her new album. Curious to see what came of that.

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link

this was produced by david guetta. i'm not 100% on it.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 09:49 (fourteen years ago) link

wkiw david guetta

jabba hands, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 10:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I read that it was a Guetta track, and it sounds like him, although I like it a GREAT deal more than most of the stuff he's put out this year. I'm not sure if that's because he's reigned himself in from the tackier side of things, of if it's due to what Kelis brings to the table. Probably both.

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Kelis meets PETA.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahaha

(avoid the comments, obv)

Jay Leno's Pony Vivisection Hour (HI DERE), Friday, 15 January 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

(avoid the comments, obv) is good advice for 98% of blogs.

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 15 January 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Underpaid minorities picking your vegetables, now that's fine for you right? Please, fight for their rights. How about the poverty in the communities of brown people around the world.

Kind of misses that fact that you can campaign for human rights *and* animal rights without any contradiction?

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 15 January 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

That rebuttal misses the point she's making, namely that time spent campaigning for animal rights is time you could have spent campaigning for human rights.

Jay Leno's Pony Vivisection Hour (HI DERE), Friday, 15 January 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

the one-up in the more worthy cause dept. is usually used by people who support no cause other then 'look at how cynical and world-weary I am.' still, she is hot and I like her :)

bnw, Friday, 15 January 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

the one-up in the more worthy cause dept. is usually used by people who support no cause other then 'look at how cynical and world-weary I am.'

It's also made by people who really really really hate PETA.

Jay Leno's Pony Vivisection Hour (HI DERE), Friday, 15 January 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

the time spent writing whiney myspace blogs is time that could have been spent campaigning for women's rights

or buying fur, or appearing in music videos, etc, etc, etc.

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 15 January 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I know, right?

Spinspin Sugah, Friday, 15 January 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

there are days when BOSSY is the best song in the world

yeahhh (surm), Thursday, 4 March 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

not in my world!

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 March 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link


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