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getting wasted is wasted on the young.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 15:29 (twenty years ago)

GET THEE TO A BUMPER STICKER MANUFACTURER

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

"it's hard out here for a pimp"

(i have no clue what i mean by that)

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 16:57 (twenty years ago)

here's another log to get this fire to 1,000 posts.

U R AWL BICHES

Nick Sylvester, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:42 (twenty years ago)

just post as yourself, midi.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:52 (twenty years ago)

no, it's funnier that way

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:56 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mr-atari.com/afbeeldingen/atariforceENboeken/wargames.jpg

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:01 (twenty years ago)

I don't know Lookner at all, and I don't know if the article portrayed him in a negative light or not. However that letter to the editor sure makes him look like a whiney bitch, especially if he does know Sylvester as the letter claims.

(Please note that I am not disputing that it is perfectly within his right to be a whiney bitch.)

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 01:54 (twenty years ago)

Gawker's just as much a punk as anyone in this situation. Gawker is a fan of that really hot tiny chick who can't write for shit but who got notoriety by being in those naked photos from Bronques aka BLACK PAPA SMURFs site. Nothing but a hoser party all around it seems.

LC, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 02:07 (twenty years ago)

Gawker is a fan of that really hot tiny chick who can't write for shit but who got notoriety by being in those naked photos

I'll bet you can get this puppy to P1K if you post pix...

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 02:17 (twenty years ago)

Brent, I can't believe you're still carrying this shit around, trying to hang it on Ryan. First of all, I wrote that retraction, and I urged Ryan to run it, because Steve had you, and Pitchfork, nailed.

The situations are the same - Martin called you out the same way Lookner did Nick. You're right to point out that you didn't make anything up and Nick did (and I maintain Nick's aggrandizement is totally inconsequential and should have been taken care of with an apologetic edit, but Lookner had to flex his muscle with the "I'm gonna burn you down!!" bullshit). The problem in your case with the Beastie review is that, although you didn't make anything up - I believed everything you wrote in that review - neither did you have any corroborating evidence or witnesses to support your characterization of Steve Martin. You openly stated the guy lied to you in a business transaction and did not deliver on promises he made, when according to Steve he never even dealt with you, it was all through an assistant.

"JC at my website has my back" is not going to cut it when you put forward a step-by-step condemnation of a guy's business ethics and credibility on one of the most important publications in his industry. You didn't realize how serious it played, you didn't treat it with the scrutiny required: you fucked up, you got called out. Admit it, revel in it - I fuck up constantly, it keeps my blood going. Steve is an asshole for doing that to you, and to Pitchfork, but he was in the right.

Badmouthing Ryan over it, trying to look tough ("bluffed legal pressure") when you were playing with Ryan's reputation, career and money the whole time? You want to blame someone, blame me: I was the one on the phone at 9:00AM - at my day job - telling Ryan to back down after talking it over with a lawyer friend of mine. Ryan went to all the bother to massage your wounded pride after the fact, saying "Yeah we would've won, Brent's right" or whatever, and you still call him spineless? That's so out of line it's untrue.

Maybe you'd show more humility if Steve had sued you personally for libel. He would have won.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

wow

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

1K = no sweat

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

seriously

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

in other web scandals, i hear this kid doesn't even really like pokemon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIYmVraRsv0&search=POKEMON%20KID

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:13 (twenty years ago)

ouch. ott brings the smackdown.

p-rez, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Ott on some Calzaghe ish with that post!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:35 (twenty years ago)

pwn

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Grandsonned.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:03 (twenty years ago)

This thread has been locked by an administrator because that post can't really be topped

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:04 (twenty years ago)

I guess I spoke too soon.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)

"when you put forward a step-by-step condemnation of a guy's business ethics and credibility on one of the most important publications in his industry. You didn't realize how serious it played, you didn't treat it with the scrutiny required: you fucked up, you got called out"

do the publications that hire really young and green journalists teach them anything about the rules of journalism and covering their asses and on and on ...aka the basics?, b/c obviously for alot of these kids its not a common sense thing. i'm not just sticking up for the loser, it just seems like if you're gonna hire these kids and exploit their freshness, you should have an editor who's really on top of things and maybe give your writers some sort of journalism 101 class.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Susan— Even if they'd just teach them that THEY WILL GET CAUGHT.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

JC G of Stop Smiling borrowed a Mouse on Mars album from me like ten years ago and never gave it back.

the watchtower, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

THE PLOT THICKENS

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:22 (twenty years ago)

it just seems like if you're gonna hire these kids and exploit their freshness, you should have an editor who's really on top of things and maybe give your writers some sort of journalism 101 class.

Or they can hire enthusiastic young folks who actually went to journalism school.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:36 (twenty years ago)

beefaroni

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:37 (twenty years ago)

except they want smart precocious kids who are really excited b/c they've maybe never had a voice before so they can jack off, who have no concept of history so they can be obsessed with trends of the last 2 years, and give us all the details of useless social trends and bullshtit. and this does not mesh with the rest of journalism - industry with long history, VERY sober serious side, strict rules. if i were pitchfork i'd be worried and feel some responsiblity. also village voice and the other publications that exploit the freshness/young thing.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

this "won't somebody please think about the children" line of argument is nauseating. give young writers some credit for knowing right from wrong. it is common sense.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

otm.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:11 (twenty years ago)

not to mention that poor little lost nick sylvester is a harvard grad with a couple of years of clippings under his belt, not a mewling infant

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm getting tired of the j-school suggestions. I know a lot of writers who didn't go to j-school (myself included) who know what the hell they're doing. J-school doesn't make someone a writer.

Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:15 (twenty years ago)

(I know that's not what you were saying per se, Whiney. I'm just spouting off.)

Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

there are some people on this board who are just CONSTANTLY wrong.

multiple xposts

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:18 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, clearly nobody with a j-school background writes for pitchfork

marc h. (marc h.), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:27 (twenty years ago)

i'm not hoping they should hire only journ. school kids either. alos, i like pitchfork's writers.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:34 (twenty years ago)

are you custos's mom?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:35 (twenty years ago)

ran across another Nick review and enjoyed it (thanks for the Daft Club reminder upthread!):
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/l/love-is-all/nine-times-that-same-song.shtml

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Weezer: "Beverly Hills"
genre: modern rock

The only thing worse than this song's "ironic" 1-4-5, "ironic" lyrics, and "ironic" guitar solo are the people who genuinely like it all. You know the type-- he threw the party in Lowell House last week that had "Laid" and "Instant Pleasure" and "You Shook Me All Night Long" and "TNT" and "Baba O'Riley" on his Winamp playlist. He hung "Must Be 21 to Drink" signs on the walls between his Belushi poster and the inkjet printout of Carmen Electra wearing suspenders. He made a point of telling everyone he bought Smirnoff Ice "for the ladies." He wears flip-flops year-round, studies government, and at last count, has five different nicknames for his dick.

Actually I thought of one more thing worse than this song: all the L.A. kids smart enough to get Cuomo's joke, but still lame enough to quote the song's chorus in their AIM profiles when they really miss their big fucking houses and Harvard-Westlake proms and "animal-style" slabs of cowshit-- the world's most overrated sandwiches in the world's most overrated city. For Chrissake, somebody give Cuomo a star so we can forget about him again. [Nick Sylvester]

T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)

thk you for the illustration.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

steely dan rules, you bastard. xxxxpost to bd

gear (gear), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Susan, now lash out at Stylus

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

i like you shook me all night long and tnt. a lot.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:38 (twenty years ago)

why is it bad to like good songs???

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)

This thread needs to sink like the heavy turd it is real soon now.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

But there's the Lookner/Lucien conundrum.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:52 (twenty years ago)

i have been wondering about that from the beginning.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:58 (twenty years ago)

through the looking glass!

erklie (erklie), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:07 (twenty years ago)

Wow...it just gets better and better! They're both still employed for what now?

Candicissima (candicissima), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

Style and a certain inelucatable panache.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:43 (twenty years ago)


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