― don, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 06:58 (nineteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_wRJVTVx3Bc
ten bucks sez i start buying old del fuegos and long ryders albums when i see them cheap at the store from now on. it had to happen.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mbquA796WJQ
i used to associate it with that stuff for some reason. i guess it's just college rock.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7itLeZg85Ac
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XysaT44Ez5U
anyone hear about that documentary on dexter that the people who did the athens movie are putting out? i guess it's kinda sad or something.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=82iQofVyRY8&mode=related&search=
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
of all those people in that list, I basically say none of them--lone justice always seemed sort of ok, and the rest all have a few good songs. but "long ryders" is a lame-ass name, plus isn't that sid griffin? interesting time for gram parsons worship back then, in its early stages. the very very first jason and (the nashville) scorchers records were all right, just as i probably can only listen to the very first, still somewhat evocative mysterioso lo-fi r.e.m ep. to me they were kind of unfocussed, thrashing, half-way good mix of, wow, "radical" idea!, "punk" and "country." a good time for gram parsons worship. i just never thought they were really all that good. if the new york dolls (saw this depressing doc last night about arthur kane's last daze) made the world safe for the new york dolls, the scorchers opened the door to stuff like br-549 15 years later.
as somebody, probably chuck, said above, the blasters were a lot better, and ditto the mekons on their best stuff. los lobos. old 97's did the jangle and the distance just fine on one or two albums. the gun club, as skott says above, i also liked ok, they were more like from the swamp and a lot of the people in the TS are drugstore cowboys--a good era for gram parsons and byrds worship, i love them myself, but these days i think maybe critics might be giving more props to gene clark, jackie deshannon, even lee hazlewood, and dillard and clark and for god's sake, when you're talking about country-rock/rock don't forget skip spence, as originators of post-byrds/parsons/punk/roots/americana thing that people used to think maybe was all gram? so that's an interesting list of bands to start the thread.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link
but the video... ay, caramba...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Eb_znrTEGpQ
― hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 8 January 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link
unreal.
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Anybody remember the Silos?
― Mark, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Silos' Cuba is fantastic. I still own three copies and would probably buy another copy if I happened upon it. Supposedly there's a mix of the s/t album that's very different. Wish Rupe had hung around...
― john. a resident of chicago., Wednesday, 6 October 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link
rupe went on to play with gutterball, who i seem to have mentioned on this thread five years ago and who i don't think anyone else cares about.
i liked cuba a lot, though i haven't listened in years. also good: walter salas-humara's first solo album, lagartija, and quite a bit of stuff by the vulgar boatmen. the silos got decidedly spotty post-cuba. last i checked, they still very much existed.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Still play s/t and Cuba from time to time. They were great live back in the day. IIRC they did some rain sounds over the intro to Tennessee Fire that was all kinds of great.
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Has anyone mentioned Danny and Dusty -- a one-off bar band with Steve Wynn, Dan Stuart, Chris Cacavas and bunch of fellow travelers? Their record, Lost Weekend, is a hoot.
Chuck Prophet's first couple of solo records are also worth considering -- his duets with Stephanie Finch have a nice Gram-Emmylou vibe.
― Chonus, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
The Silos Cuba is indeed great. But their best song came later, on the Susan Across The Ocean album. It's a cover of a song called Let's Take Some Drugs and Drive Around. If you haven't heard it, you're in for a treat.
http://www.amazon.com/Susan-Across-Ocean-Silos/dp/B000000FDI
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link
cover of a song called Let's Take Some Drugs and Drive Around
by michael hall of the wild seeds, who almost certainly fit on this thread themselves.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
His version is more ironic. The Silos turn it into an anthem
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I was among the ~75 people who saw The Silos, Vulgar Boatmen and Michael Hall do that song at Metro in...'96? One of the better moments of my concert going. Great show!
The Vulgar Boatmen still put on a great show. There's a documentary on them about to come out, I believe.
― john. a resident of chicago., Wednesday, 6 October 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, it's called Drive Somewhere. It can be downloaded here.
I can't say enough good things about The Vulgar Boatmen. I never had the pleasure of seeing them live, but they are one of the few bands that does not have a bad song.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
This is easily Jason & The Scorchers for me. Their new album has at least 4 cuts that'd go on their career anthology.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
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Living in Chicago, I've been fortunate enough to have seen the Vulgar Boatmen, geez, at least 15 times. Another standout was at Beat Kitchen in ~1992 when I first saw them do "Roadrunner". The place was going nuts! One of my favorite shows.
First time I saw them was at Marquette University, around the time of "You and Your Sister". The bill was, Vulgar Boatmen, Blake Babies and Die Kreuzen (?!). I've still got the flyer for that show somewhere...
― john. a resident of chicago., Wednesday, 6 October 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Nice! Was Robert Ray playing with them too?
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 7 October 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
And...yes, the new Jason & The Scorchers record is excellent. I love Better Than This.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 7 October 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link
man Drivin & Cryin used to Rock the Dock in Jackson, MS on the reg. Blind Melon was really big, too IIRC (but maybe a year or two later? I think this might have even been before Bee girl fame). I think those might have been my first rock shows that weren't like 3-Dog Night and Steppenwolf doing the oldies circuit at the Mid-South fair with my parents a mere 200 yards away.
― hypnosis is the reason some Jewish people backed him → (will), Thursday, 7 October 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
The Silos record with the bird on the cover is the first thing I can remember buying purely b/c I read a couple of great reviews of it (I believe in Spin and Rolling Stone), and I do remember liking that song "Picture of Helen" a lot. They had a brief moment where they had a ton of buzz if I remember right.
― Mark, Thursday, 7 October 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
> Was Robert Ray playing with them too?
He may have been with them for the Silos/Michael Hall show, but that could be revisionist history. Does the Gainesville version of the band still play?
Thanks for that movie link, I'm looking forward to watching it. Always thought the Boatmen would make a good documentary subject.
― john. a resident of chicago., Saturday, 9 October 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
All about Green on Red. Like Kevn Kinney solo more than Drivin' and Cryin'. Maria McKee both ways.
― ok we are pals (Eazy), Saturday, 9 October 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
don't think i really need beat rodeo in my life.
really enjoyed that rank & file album a couple of weeks ago though. long gone dead still rules.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
listening now to the eieio album from 1986. *land of opportunity*. so far i dig it more than beat rodeo. some decent guitar action on the first track.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
plus, they've got guitars all over the place. over here. over there. everywhere. good solos. good country/southern twang. good riffs. sounds like they liked the byrds AND badfinger AND southern/country rock.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds good to me!
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
singing kinda sucks though. a commmon problem with a lot of the new wave cow bands.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
and the production isn't total don dixon blah (he didn't produce it), but its still got that 80's living in a box feel. but not TOO bad or anything. (not the band living in a box. just that canned 80's thing.)
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes. Those singers all tried way too hard. It's as if every line of every song ends with three exclamation points.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
fly me!!!courageous!!!
drivin and cryin (the band name) used to crack me up in high schoolwho would admit to being in a band called DRIVIN AND CRYIN
― deez m'uts (La Lechera), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I like how the Flesheaters guy simultaneously screamed and crooned every line. But they were at the punky end, much more like Gun Club. Someone gave me a Tail Gators cassette of Tore Up that I quite liked, but never felt the need to replace it when it got smooshed. They seemed to be at the bar-band end of the scene.
This summarizes everything that was problematic about the bands in the thread title.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88cewhasU74
― bendy, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe i should blame mitch easter as well as don dixon for that uptight box sound but i love mitch and i would feel horrible saying anything bad about him. all these bands should have recorded their albums wherever the hell hardcore punk bands recorded their albums. they needed more ragged liveliness. a more live feel. but they all loved the byrds and stacked harmonies and shit which was usually their week spot to begin with. they shoulda just spent all their time on the guitars.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
listened to some of an EP by a band called Lifeboat from 1985. not great. definite R.E.M./DBs thing going on with a dash of u.k. new wave a la echo and the bunnymen? or someone like that. boston band i think?
(so anyway they don't really belong here except for the jangle angle.)
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
jeezus i totally forgot about the bongos song numbers with wings! its like a fuckin' proust cookie! swear i haven't heard it since 1983 or 1984 and i know every second of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbzYn48qJxU
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Boston had a mess of bands doing this, like the Del Fuegos, a little more east coast, less cowboy. Neighborhoods, Rubber Rodeo, Dogmatics, Scruffy the Cat, Blackjacks. They'd get a bit local commercial radio airplay and they had videos on the short lived Boston UHF music video channel, in a way that the hardcore bands, or even Mission of Burma never did. There was a bit of spillover. I think I saw Dogmatics and the Queers play an all-ages show together.
― bendy, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
wow barbarella! by the bongos. total memory lane. i really need a copy of the remix now. always loved that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhstSCfMyoE
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry i'm straying...
i get so much of that 80's boston indie stuff cuzza where i am.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
everyone should have just had richard gottehrer do their records. he gave everything a little i want candy punch.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Scruffy The Cat got some MTV airplay for "My Baby" something something. I remember their distinguishing characteristic being a banjo player.
Were the Neats part of that same Boston scene?
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link