I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

Nope, it is Paul, I was wrong - just confused by him not sounding like a pussy, I guess.

Double x-post; aye, I was doing some Googling - Sound Check was definitely bringing the 2009 ones down (rather than the 87 ones up, I think). I've done some Googling and can't find anything that seems to say it does anything else, but as far as layers of detail etcetera goes, things were very, very close - I was going off AACs (of the 87s) and MP3s (of the 09s) initially, but the bitrates were high on each, and I wouldn't have thought that alone would make that much difference. I also ripped the 87s as MP3s too, just to be sure (it's those I took the Audacity waveforms from), and again, negligible difference.

Take a close look at the Taxman waveforms; the contours on the lower channel of each one look as if the newer ones are upside down? What does that mean? Can that even be?

It's phase reversal - fine if it's happened to both channels (and the left channel on Taxman is fairly loud throughout on the remaster, so it's hard to tell) but will sound different if the right channel has been reversed viz the '87 version and the left hasn't.

That left-channel drum-hit (or whatever it is) about 6sec into Taxman is fairly well squashed in the '09 version, isn't it? Nothing major by the looks of things but some transients have obviously been sacrificed for the greater "good".

Shouldn't you guys just wait and analyze the uncompressed stuff in like 6 days? It seem like there's no way you can get usable data from this process...

Hey, I'm just responding to questions here! I'm not even interested in these records! Well, a bit perhaps.

Haha it's not like it bothers me. Just seems like anything you learn now will be changed soon.

I'm excited to hear this stuff too, assuming it sounds markedly better. And I believe it will.

this forum is now on it's EIGHTEENTH set of 1,000-post threads on the subject of the remasters since they were announced.
Just to clarify that is 18,000 seperate posts. EIGHTEEN THOUSAND mind you.

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2

SNAP found 'em. are they labeled "24 bit remaster"?

umm.....nevermind that's something totally different

The Revolver someone culled from Waffles and uploaded, er, somewhere didn't sound that much different from the '87, and I listened to it via decent headphones. I've heard other say these might be fake ala the Loveless "remasters" that made the rounds.

What a fucking awesome rhythm section this band had.

If the Revolver I've got is fake then someone's gone to a lot of trouble with that phase-shifting thing.

Within You Without You! Someone counts down in your right ear at about 3.45! The sitars! The strings!

The coda of Rita!

you are a very sick man. don't change.

OB LA DI OH BLA DA

The "chikka chikka chikka chikka" backing vocals in the channels as the trumpet run goes!

Macca IS the best rock bassist ever.

Fucking Wild Honey Pie for fuck's sake.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S FUCKING NEXT

You think of Taxman as George's song, don't you? It's NOT. It's Paul's.

They're all Paul's.

Even though he's a wanker.

WTF IS HE DOING WHILE GEORGE IS TAXING THE STREET?

he's taxing the BEAT.

He doesn't need it, but I'm always happy to hear praise for McCartney's bass.

Never mind, Sgt. Pepper's is right on and I am ready to join Nick in praising this from the roof and the hilltops.

they know what it's like to be dead

Within You Without You! Someone counts down in your right ear at about 3.45! The sitars! The strings!

― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, September 4, 2009 3:08 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

You could hear that count-down in the old one too. Also I always loved the bit in "I'm Only Sleeping" where you can hear John off-mic saying "Yawn, Paul!"

WTF IS HE DOING WHILE GEORGE IS TAXING THE STREET?

Isn't that amazing? I first noticed that a few years ago (naively thinking I was intimately familiar with the song) and promptly re-played that section about 50 or so times. I still can't make out exactly what Paul's doing (some combination of hammer-ons and glissandi?), but it's fucking astonishing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8238380.stm

Previously unheard Abbey Road session tape chat here!

I was in HMV this morning, and they've got all the end-of-aisle displays ready, with books and merchandise and whatnot, but they've got cds there too and the price of them made me look twice - with all the fanfare about the new editions they've cynically bumped the price of the '87 discs to £16. Designed, it would seem, to make the punters who are less informed about release dates than music geeks like us, think that they're buying the new remasters.

(In fact a lot of the prices in HMV this morning were head-spinningly insane - £120 for the 3 cd Tell Tale Signs set that was about £80 last Christmas.)

.. and was around £35 in Fopp...

I saw a "original" "The Bends" for £12, yeah the pricing in HMV has gone potty.

Still, when they sell none, they will wonder why.

I think I just got the Revolver one, sounds pretty amazing. Some deep bass in this!

anyone found any mono l£aks yet? on s0ul$££k?

XXXP: Prices of Beatles CDs have been dumped here for months. I think it has more to do with EMI wanting to get rid of all the old edition copies as soon as possible though - Warner are doing the exact thing with Neil Young now.

exact same thing even

This thing sounds amazing. (Stereo.)

SSeek them out.

SHE COULD STEAL BUT SHE COULD NOT ROB

It's not eat to do caps on an iPhone.

SHE COULD STEAL BUT SHE COULD NOT ROB

^ ethics of downloading the remasters.

I've not downloaded anything I've not also ordered from Amazon. Yet.

Being able to really notice Paul's voice crack in "If I Fell," is one of the more subtle details.

EVERYBODY'S GOT SOMETHING TO HIDE EXCEPT FOR ME AND MY MONKEY

Never ever ever need to listen to another Dear Prudence rip off again.

Blackbird!

The whole of Hard Day's Night!

Even fucking Piggies!

The White Album is the greatest record ever made.

Allan Kozinn weighs in. He likes everything but a couple of tunes on Pepper, and wants to see a high-def Blu Ray edition.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/06/arts/music/06alla.html?ref=arts

Feeling like Rubber Soul stands out the most from the old 1987 issue. "The Word" just had its sinuses opened up. The clarity in all the percussion, and the deep bass sound, is fuckin' phenomenal!