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It's the only one that gets 5 stars on AMG.

jaymc, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

That AMG review is from 1996 though!

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Also AMG isn't exactly a consensus by itself.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

ETK is def the critical favorite, Transient is the record store geek "I only like their early stuff" pick

iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

ETK was definitely the only one i read about in big magazines like Rolling Stone in the 90s and i wasn't really aware at all of how many other albums they had

R Gmail Still Down? (Remember Me) (some dude), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

"ETK is def the critical favorite, Transient is the record store geek "I only like their early stuff" pick"

Makes sense that I would be deluded about their relative popularity then.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Although Transient's Amazon sales rank is higher!

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

actual best album is sound dust and in 30 years everyone else will realize this

iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe 25 years

iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

In 30 years no one is going to give a shit about Stereolab.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

ya that's why I changed it to 25

iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

jaymc will give a shit about stereolab in 30 yrs

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

refried ectoplasm is all u rilly need

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe. I certainly don't love them as much as I did 10 years ago.

ETK is most listened to on Last.fm:
http://www.last.fm/search?q=stereolab&m=albums

jaymc, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

ppl still give a hit about, like, josef k--why not stereolab?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

ETK is the most sold back at record stores (I have no link, I just see more copies.)

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

"ppl still give a hit about, like, josef k"

No they don't.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh wait a SHIT. Okay maybe they do.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

weird that ETK is so highly regarded. i love love lovedit when it came out, prob still do... but always saw it as the beginning of the end.

BIG HOOS in little drive-a (s1ocki), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

it's funky

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

ETK is great!

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 06:21 (fourteen years ago) link

never heard of polvo before this week.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

refried ectoplasm is all u rilly need
This is in my dj bag for the radio show tonight!

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"That period of Os Mutantes isn't well-known outside of Brazil, but suffice to say it hasn't aged as well. They were as prone to prog excess as any psych band that survived past 1970, and though their music retained its wild spirit and Brazilian character, it also got tighter, more bombastic, and less infectious."
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13391-haih-or-amortecedor/
prog "excess"="less infectious" is an axiom that hasn't aged well, mediocore fans

kamerad, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

lock this fuckin thread.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

this isn't really focused just on pitchfork, even though i'm snagging the quote from pitchfork's review of the hercules & love affair mix, because i see this all the time in different sources:

By the first three tracks, which sees Butler link Westbam's zippy, overeager "And Party" to Todd Terry's ice-cool hip-hop drum pastiche "No Pares (Don't Stop)" to an oblong, twerky disco-house original (new H&LA track "I Can't Wait"-- sadly not a Nu Shooz cover), we're in full bloom.

does this serve any point other than allowing the reviewer to show off their vast array of musical knowledge?

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 4 September 2009 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, just the other day some dude called out xhuxk for doing that in Singles Jukebox reviews.

jaymc, Friday, 4 September 2009 12:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Is Nu Shooz's "I Can't Wait" such an obscure song that busting out a reference in a review is supposed to establish some kind of massive cred? It was like a top 5 hit and got them a Grammy nom.

Mario Brosephs (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 4 September 2009 12:43 (fourteen years ago) link

uh your argument just makes the reference even more pointless

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 4 September 2009 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I think n/a's point is that it's just absolutely irrelevant. I couldn't find an example of xhuxk doing the "sadly not a cover of..." line, but I did find this, in his review of Lisa Mitchell's "Coin Laundry":

Nowhere near as good as the Five Royales’ “Laundromat Blues,” Vivien Goldman’s “Launderette,” the Pretenders’ “Watching The Clothes,” the Electric Eels’ “Agitated,” or Trafassi’s “Wasmasjien.”

I get the sense, from having read his stuff here and in The Accidental History of Rock'N'Roll, that a lot of what drives his criticism is just free association. Which has the potential to yield some interesting insights (sometimes he notes, for example, that a song in one genre uses the same sonic signifiers as a song in a totally different genre, thus suggesting that the boundaries between genres are nowhere near as rigid as we'd like to think) -- but a lot of the time does just seem sort of shallow and useless, nothing more than vomited-up trivia.

jaymc, Friday, 4 September 2009 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the nu shooz thing is a "joke"

fleetwood (max), Friday, 4 September 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link

as in

"how hilarious would it be if hercules and love affair covered nu shooz?? guys?? seriously??"

fleetwood (max), Friday, 4 September 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link

(Sorry to pick on xhuxk, btw. He himself says "if people can’t see humor in songs sharing titles, that’s their loss.")

jaymc, Friday, 4 September 2009 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

haha sorry my good-natured ribbing turned into a thorough jaymc survey of the eddy canon ¯\(°_o)/¯

some dude, Friday, 4 September 2009 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, it struck a chord.

jaymc, Friday, 4 September 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link

heh yeah...I mean the whole genesis of it was me thinking it myself, and then going "I shouldn't say this in the blurb, it's the kind of thing that I roll my eyes at when Chuck does it"

some dude, Friday, 4 September 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I did this in a review the other day (songs with ice cream in their title) then realised it was retarded and took it out. That Chuck one above is... cute tho (although I don't get the Electric Eels thing - do you need to know the words?)

DJ AMencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 4 September 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Check the big thing inside the tub:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/how-to-repair-a-washing-machine-1.jpg

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 4 September 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the nu shooz thing is a "joke"

― fleetwood (max), Friday, 4 September 2009 12:58 (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

as in

"how hilarious would it be if hercules and love affair covered nu shooz?? guys?? seriously??"

― fleetwood (max), Friday, 4 September 2009 12:58 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

Is it not more "how dope would it be if hercules and love affair covered nu shooz??" coz that's a great song, and one that I could imagine them covering.

CosMc (Raw Patrick), Friday, 4 September 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

As long as Antony isn't singing it.

post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 September 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

upside of this thread is i totally have nu shooz stuck in my head today and god that song rules

all cause the shit hoos's roommate uttered was utterly ridiculous (some dude), Friday, 4 September 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link

TBH when I saw the H&LA tracklisting I assumed it would be a cover of Nu Shooz.

Tim F, Saturday, 5 September 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

the video for "I Can't Wait" features such key articles of 80s pop iconography as a plastic cactus & a dog wearing Wayfarers. Also, I was struck by how strongly the singer's voice resembles that of the singer from Ace of Base. Also, that song is srsly stuck in my head now, esp that "voice" synth lead.

Pullman/Paxton Revolving Bills (Pillbox), Saturday, 5 September 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i didnt think that was a weird aside at all! i would have wondered if it was a cover

butthurt (deej), Sunday, 6 September 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

god how awesome would it be if that new track was a nu shooz cover

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psychgawsple, Sunday, 6 September 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Fleet Fox dude on the Guest List:

"I was 14 when (Kid A) came out."

I knew the bearded bros were young, but, still, put in that context it's a jaw dropper.

Cunga, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

whoa he's younger than me

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

is this how it starts

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha YES

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Gotta get my act together.

Cunga, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link


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