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No! The Mary Chain and Joy Division were not goth bands. That's like saying the Shangri-Las were a goth band because they wrote about a song about young death. The Cure most definitely are goth.

Bands like the Mary Chain have a pure rock'n'roll heritage, whereas Goths seem to be some weird hybrid of rock and cabaret. I think it's the stageyness that is the difference. The Darkness are much more goth than Joy Divsion.

― holojames (holojames), Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

Pantha Du Prince "Glycerin" from his fucking amazing Diamond Daze record on Dial. I suppose that most of that album can be filed under Goth-House, but that track is a GOTH-HOUSE MASTERPIECE!!!!! (MIchael F Gill already noted PDP's record on 5/11/04, but i just wanted to add to his sentiments...and also gush about my favorite house track of the year)

― Daniel De Rogatis, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

so, are The Birthday Party "goth" ? i would assume so..but i really have no clue as to what their live shows were like. they seem to fit the definition of rock meets cabaret, though

― 6335, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the pantha du prince album is holy stuff, indeed.
surprise entry into the canon, tho' via R&B: cee-lo and tori alamaze's "don' cha," upon which i expound briefly here.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Pantha Du Prince possibly one-ups the Lawrence album from last year. "Eisregen" is my fave cut.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

that tori alamaze song is AMAZING... heard it on the radio a few weeks ago and couldn't figure out what it was until your most helpful blogging, m. sherburne.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 06:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I burned myself a sped-up mix of 'don't ya' so I can drop it in my current techno set. #1 single of 2005 so far no doubt. It was played by the hip-hop dj at the bar I was at on NYE (midnight song: Drop it like it's Hot) and I was surprised at how well the crowd knew it and how most everybody sang along.

― tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

hey philip...yes the pantha du prince is a holy one indeedy...i gotta check that cee-lo cut.by the way, i'm the dan that you met at rx gallery a coupla months back...sup man? Michael F. Gill...i agree with you about it one-upping Lawrence's Absence of Blight. actually, i feel that the "possibly" is a "definitely". not to take anything away from lawrence though. the guy rules. no one bliss-drones out quite the way he does y'know?

― Daniel De Rogatis, Jr., Monday, 10 January 2005 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

p.s. pantha du prince fans...(if ya haven't heard yet...)check out his "Das Schweigen der Sirenen" album (also on Dial) under his other alias Glühen 4. it sure as heckfire ain't house, but it's some really fantastic ambient music. beats are there on occasion, but they are arrythmic for the most part...i would hardly classify them as "beats" though. it's nice n' eerie, filled with an unexplainable otherworldly beauty, and it's quite addictive. Dark-Pop Ambient? check it.

― Daniel De Rogatis, Jr., Monday, 10 January 2005 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah how AMAZING is that track on pantha du prince that samples a huge chunk from the chills' "pink frost"? it's the best thing ever. micro-goth meets frozen-air nz-pop!

― jon dale, Monday, 10 January 2005 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, somebody did used "pink frost" in a microhouse setting before I got around to it? fuck fuck fuck.
(um, what's the track called?)

― etc, Monday, 10 January 2005 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)

can't remember track title, i'll find out for you. great idea though isn't it? i'm sure you can guess which part of "pink frost" it uses too.

― jon dale, Monday, 10 January 2005 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"circle glider"

― jon dale, Monday, 10 January 2005 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"pink frost"...cool, i've been windering where that is from. thanks for that.

― dd, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 08:00 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Walking around the snow-covered Tiergarten w/ Anders Illar's 'Everdom' in my earphones: aw yeah.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 18 February 2005 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...

i love you tim finney

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 25 June 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

who can tell me anything about youthanasia? their track "mondo cane" pops up about thirty minutes into the middle of triple r's mix of the my best friend label & it's incredible - a spot-on joy division/new order pastiche. discogs says they've only released one record, and it's the only one on the label (rendezvous) - is this some newish kompakt-related? everything else on that mix is from my best fried, a split from traum . . .

― locus solus, Monday, 27 June 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

I think Rendezvous is a new French label. I have no idea who runs it/what the deal is with it, but according to the Flashback notes Youthanasia = Triple R and Emanuel Geller (from Salz.)

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 27 June 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

i love you pantha du prince

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Konrad Black: Jefferson and Braeside is in every set lately :')

― don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Sunday, 18 September 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

and konrad black - medusa smile, of course. and i´d recommend matias aguayos album, and anything by argy.

― jelica, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Mayer- "Love Is Stronger Than Pride" and "Lovefood" : not exactly the micro in micro-goth, but both fit in a goth-tinted house set

Isolee- "I Owe You" : I don't know, I hear some Cure in this song. Maybe those strings conjure Disintegration or something. Other Isolee songs fit as well, but this came to mind first.

Psychic TV- "Jigsaw" and "Horror House" : listen to "Jigsaw" and then listen to "Love Is Stronger Than Pride"

Superpitcher- "Tell Me About It" : lots of his stuff, per mentions above

Skinny Puppy- "Deep Down Trauma Hounds" : I'm kind of wondering if this is maybe THE original micro-goth track: the bubbly opening synths, then the kick drum, then the washes, then the deconstruction...I used to drop this in dance sets, but always had to quickly abandon ship because Ogre's vocals go off the deep end a few minutes in and it tends to clear the floor

Per posts above, also ref:
(complete works)
Dettinger
Lawrence
Pantha Du Prince
Closer Musik

― jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

xpost re Tim's early mention of Marc Almond: what about "Tainted Love" or is Soft Cell's version too white for the race-association tension Tim cites as mandatory? I'm not familiarenough with the Motown original to say(but while asking, I'm thinking of the early club mixes of Soft Cell's, more than the Top 20 radio version). Also, how many goths can dance on the head of a pin?

― don, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

Goths tend to be pretty thin, so I'd say about twenty at least.

Them early club mixes of Soft Cell you mention are incredibly great/evil/filthy-sounding (in more ways than one).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Don Soft Cell are right on point, although w. micro-goth I was thinking more of a current movement than its historical precedents.

Where Marc Almond does sort of sneak in is with the Hacker remix of "Soul on Soul".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

Is anyone else seeing (hearing) the Psychic TV and Skinny Puppy connections I mentioned above? Hello? Ground Control to Major Tom?

― jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Also, Tim- I don't really see how you're labeling Dettinger's "Tottentanz" as micro-goth over "Tranquilizer", "Blond", or even "Puma"....

Maybe I don't quite understand the criteria, silly as it is....

― jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

All Dettinger is goth really, but "Tottentanz" is so dark and deathly. What's yr objection?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

I guess with my original list I was making a goth = melodrama connection which the melancholy quietude of most Dettinger, Lawrence and Pantha Du Prince (say) doesn't really truck with. Not that i'm opposed to the latter definition of micro-goth...

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm......

I guess I'm hung up a bit on the muscularity of "Tottentanz". Definitely dark, with some very goth Middle Eastern compositional structure going on (at least that's what I'm hearing in the track), but I was thinking more melancholy than melodrama or muscularity. But then again all three is pretty much Creatures in a nutshell, or Blue Sunshine, so ok- I'm with you.

― jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

Mathew Jonson and the Mole "Dirt Road And A Boat From Soundwave" definitely deserves to be mentioned here.

― nocure, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

i'm OMGing Pantha du Prince and i need more. all night record store where ARE you??? who needs records in teh daytime?

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 06:19 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Mathias Schaffhäuser - Lost Vox (pan pot remix) no real vocals but dark never the less

― hector (hector), Saturday, 18 March 2006 01:35 (twenty years ago)

Mikkel Metal?

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 18 March 2006 10:39 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Oh also
Onur Ozer - Envy

there also seems to be a substrata of cyber sounding goth coming around. The pan pot stuff hints at it. Not so romantic just dark and a bit brutal.

― hector (hector), Friday, 7 April 2006 03:58 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

doesnt get much gothier than Roland Appel - Dark Soldier

― ☪, Sunday, 8 July 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds like Kelly Polar does Luomo on Solak Kollektiv

― Michael F Gill, Sunday, 8 July 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

eight months pass...

So, I've gotten word Agoria's at the controls may be a micro-goth masterpiece of sorts. Any confirmation on this or other things about it worth noting?

― mehlt, Thursday, 13 March 2008 02:23 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

The definitive micro-goth release?

Thomas Brinkmann - When Horses Die
http://www.discogs.com/release/1237455

― Paul in Santa Cruz, Monday, 7 April 2008 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

isn't this "goth", I must listen to it again as I didn't hear any "micro".

― mmmm, Monday, 7 April 2008 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

I take it that Agoria mix mentioned a while ago never got US release or even wide import release? It's always fun tracking down stuff that isn't on any download stores. Is it really as good as the five star RA review says?

― mh, Monday, 7 April 2008 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

I've just browsed through the Brinkmann in a record shop this past weekend, so I only have a first impression, but it seemed to contain lots of "micro" elements (clicky percussive filaments and so on). Would like to hear from those more familiar with this release...

― Paul in Santa Cruz, Monday, 7 April 2008 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

(I see there's a mention of it here.

― Paul in Santa Cruz, Monday, 7 April 2008 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

)

― Paul in Santa Cruz, Monday, 7 April 2008 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

God, Radioslave's remix of Le Noir's Eleny is a truly spellbinding piece of work, brilliant. In fact, my dislike of Radioslave, as pushed to disguist come Bell Clap Dance has been well pacified by this.

Oh Micro-Goth, I think I've decided you are my very favourite style of music.

― mehlt, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 04:25 (eighteen years ago)

if pantha du prince didnt exist, we would have had to invent him

― max, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 04:55 (eighteen years ago)

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/aequitas3/Freaky_Midget.jpg

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 05:34 (eighteen years ago)

And that is why I will never, ever use the term micro-goth in public.

Not that I like the term at all to begin with.

― mehlt, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 03:00 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.myspace.com/passarelladeathsquad

― ☆, Thursday, 22 October 2009 00:53 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

from K. Ross Hoffman's AMG review of PdP's Black Noise:

...and "Behind the Stars" brings on the grinding electro keyboards and dark, distorted vocals, recalling the "micro-goth" tag sometimes applied to his earlier work...

― Yaz Hands (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

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