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so, what's the latest?

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

GET ONE GAWKER

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:30 (twenty years ago)

haha ok this radar article on the game is actually pretty good.

http://www.radosh.net/images/PUA.jpg

i mean, maxim-level stuff but still.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I liked the part about Menudo.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)

wow that was actually funny

,,,,,,,,,,,,, Monday, 6 March 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)

that article explains a lot about momus.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 6 March 2006 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Dear Pitchfork:

When are you going to post a news story about this whole thing, explaining why Nick is no longer on your masthead? Or will he simply never be spoken of again, as though he never was a key member of your staff?

"What's up with you and Nick S man?/Y'all okay man?"

Yours Truly,
Indiefux4Life

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 March 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

C'mon, dude, we've always been at war with Eurasia.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 March 2006 21:02 (twenty years ago)

The Gawker coverage of this has gone way beyond neccesary. They need to move on.

A. Poster, Monday, 6 March 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

I have not read this thread, as I really do enjoy my free time, but someone directed me to this. Some quick points:

-Nick is a really great person (in person), and this is what's most important.

-My "case" is in NO WAY similar to Nick's. For one, and most importantly, I did not make anything up. I made a typo when typing a year (1999) at 3am, which my "editor" at Pitchfork did not pick up.

-In fact, my editor of the Radiohead story referenced in that PFM piece, JC at Stop Smiling, completely backs up my story as reflected in the Beastie Boys review. Email him if you actually give a shit.

-Also, it was a RECORD REVIEW, not front page journalism.

-Finally, Ryan has no spine whatsoever, and posted that retracted under bluffed legal pressure. Notice how I didn't write it? I was willing to call Steve Martin's bluff. Ryan was protecting his baby, and he no lawyer/legal experience and was not.

- PS, Steve Martin is actually an asshole. He wrote Chunklet in anger over not making their asshole list. He loves it when you call him that. Try it sometime.

Anyway, enjoy your board.

brent_D, Monday, 6 March 2006 23:35 (twenty years ago)

http://www.wiscasset.k12.me.us/wms/Graphics/F00014D7F/wizard

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

oh shit dude, i thought yr. article was satire.

now it's not funny anymore.

or it's funny in a whole difft way.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:40 (twenty years ago)

does the 'r' stand for robot?

W i l l (common_person), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:45 (twenty years ago)

whether or not it was satire, the beasties review was funny in the same way.

Zwan (miccio), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

no. now it's funny because it wasn't!

if i never thought it wasn't true then i probably would never have found it funny.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:49 (twenty years ago)

it's funny because i changed my mind, DO YOU SEE.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:49 (twenty years ago)

I have not read this thread, as I really do enjoy my free time, but someone directed me to this. Some quick points:

OK, shoot.

-Nick is a really great person (in person), and this is what's most important.

That's really cool. I'm glad that being a good person doesn't mean you're exempt from rules.

-My "case" is in NO WAY similar to Nick's. For one, and most importantly, I did not make anything up. I made a typo when typing a year (1999) at 3am, which my "editor" at Pitchfork did not pick up.

Yeah, we figured. Are you one of those cats who writes at wierd hours too? Fuck it's tough being an artist.

-In fact, my editor of the Radiohead story referenced in that PFM piece, JC at Stop Smiling, completely backs up my story as reflected in the Beastie Boys review. Email him if you actually give a shit.

We don't, but thanks for offering that.

-Also, it was a RECORD REVIEW, not front page journalism.

I have this tiny razor I use to split hairs. But we all appreciate that you don't consider yourself a journalist, because we don't either.

-Finally, Ryan has no spine whatsoever, and posted that retracted under bluffed legal pressure. Notice how I didn't write it? I was willing to call Steve Martin's bluff. Ryan was protecting his baby, and he no lawyer/legal experience and was not.

Yes, it's Ryan who sold out.

- PS, Steve Martin is actually an asshole. He wrote Chunklet in anger over not making their asshole list. He loves it when you call him that. Try it sometime.

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING.

Anyway, enjoy your board.

Word.

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:52 (twenty years ago)

I was basically laughing at the idea of somebody writing it. It's verity doesn't alter that.

Zwan (miccio), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:52 (twenty years ago)

brent d is a funny dood. i still like this one:

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/s/sonic-youth/nyc-ghosts-and-flowers.shtml

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:55 (twenty years ago)

does he still write anywhere? hey, brent d. do you still write anywhere? (i don't get out much)

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:56 (twenty years ago)

The plot thickens. Somewhat.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 00:16 (twenty years ago)

haha "plot"

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 00:35 (twenty years ago)

the plot for a 1000 post thread, obv.

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 02:43 (twenty years ago)

929

o -- (eman), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 02:48 (twenty years ago)

Wow, Sylvester's almost a year younger than I am and already has his first major media scandal. I feel so ashamed.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 03:02 (twenty years ago)

Save it until you're old enough to appreciate the moment, dood

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 04:00 (twenty years ago)

getting wasted is wasted on the young.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 15:29 (twenty years ago)

GET THEE TO A BUMPER STICKER MANUFACTURER

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

"it's hard out here for a pimp"

(i have no clue what i mean by that)

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 16:57 (twenty years ago)

here's another log to get this fire to 1,000 posts.

U R AWL BICHES

Nick Sylvester, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:42 (twenty years ago)

just post as yourself, midi.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:52 (twenty years ago)

no, it's funnier that way

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:56 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mr-atari.com/afbeeldingen/atariforceENboeken/wargames.jpg

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:01 (twenty years ago)

I don't know Lookner at all, and I don't know if the article portrayed him in a negative light or not. However that letter to the editor sure makes him look like a whiney bitch, especially if he does know Sylvester as the letter claims.

(Please note that I am not disputing that it is perfectly within his right to be a whiney bitch.)

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 01:54 (twenty years ago)

Gawker's just as much a punk as anyone in this situation. Gawker is a fan of that really hot tiny chick who can't write for shit but who got notoriety by being in those naked photos from Bronques aka BLACK PAPA SMURFs site. Nothing but a hoser party all around it seems.

LC, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 02:07 (twenty years ago)

Gawker is a fan of that really hot tiny chick who can't write for shit but who got notoriety by being in those naked photos

I'll bet you can get this puppy to P1K if you post pix...

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 02:17 (twenty years ago)

Brent, I can't believe you're still carrying this shit around, trying to hang it on Ryan. First of all, I wrote that retraction, and I urged Ryan to run it, because Steve had you, and Pitchfork, nailed.

The situations are the same - Martin called you out the same way Lookner did Nick. You're right to point out that you didn't make anything up and Nick did (and I maintain Nick's aggrandizement is totally inconsequential and should have been taken care of with an apologetic edit, but Lookner had to flex his muscle with the "I'm gonna burn you down!!" bullshit). The problem in your case with the Beastie review is that, although you didn't make anything up - I believed everything you wrote in that review - neither did you have any corroborating evidence or witnesses to support your characterization of Steve Martin. You openly stated the guy lied to you in a business transaction and did not deliver on promises he made, when according to Steve he never even dealt with you, it was all through an assistant.

"JC at my website has my back" is not going to cut it when you put forward a step-by-step condemnation of a guy's business ethics and credibility on one of the most important publications in his industry. You didn't realize how serious it played, you didn't treat it with the scrutiny required: you fucked up, you got called out. Admit it, revel in it - I fuck up constantly, it keeps my blood going. Steve is an asshole for doing that to you, and to Pitchfork, but he was in the right.

Badmouthing Ryan over it, trying to look tough ("bluffed legal pressure") when you were playing with Ryan's reputation, career and money the whole time? You want to blame someone, blame me: I was the one on the phone at 9:00AM - at my day job - telling Ryan to back down after talking it over with a lawyer friend of mine. Ryan went to all the bother to massage your wounded pride after the fact, saying "Yeah we would've won, Brent's right" or whatever, and you still call him spineless? That's so out of line it's untrue.

Maybe you'd show more humility if Steve had sued you personally for libel. He would have won.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

wow

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

1K = no sweat

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

seriously

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

in other web scandals, i hear this kid doesn't even really like pokemon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIYmVraRsv0&search=POKEMON%20KID

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:13 (twenty years ago)

ouch. ott brings the smackdown.

p-rez, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Ott on some Calzaghe ish with that post!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:35 (twenty years ago)

pwn

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Grandsonned.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:03 (twenty years ago)

This thread has been locked by an administrator because that post can't really be topped

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:04 (twenty years ago)

I guess I spoke too soon.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)

"when you put forward a step-by-step condemnation of a guy's business ethics and credibility on one of the most important publications in his industry. You didn't realize how serious it played, you didn't treat it with the scrutiny required: you fucked up, you got called out"

do the publications that hire really young and green journalists teach them anything about the rules of journalism and covering their asses and on and on ...aka the basics?, b/c obviously for alot of these kids its not a common sense thing. i'm not just sticking up for the loser, it just seems like if you're gonna hire these kids and exploit their freshness, you should have an editor who's really on top of things and maybe give your writers some sort of journalism 101 class.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Susan— Even if they'd just teach them that THEY WILL GET CAUGHT.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

JC G of Stop Smiling borrowed a Mouse on Mars album from me like ten years ago and never gave it back.

the watchtower, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)


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