Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

I give a shit Andy :(

Kelly Clarkson usually sets these people off more than anything.

Kelly Clarkson Brown skin usually sets these people off more than anything.

last one, i swear

There's not a single Radiohead song in their catalog that is worse than any single song Beyonce has been associated with. Automatically.
Just like the Grammies and the Oscars and a whole host of listers/award givers, though, P4K fears irrelevance not giving huge nods to the popular. Recognize that in this segmented age, we all heard Crazy in Love and found it catchy. Recognize that it was not the idiotic drivel of the Black Eyed Peas. But don't put it over legitimate artists, such as Radiohead, artist of the decade for the 90s and 00s.
I like that P4K recognizes the undeniable like Cry Me a River from pop. It would have just worked better as a side-bar to the larger list to avoid the uncomfortable reality of putting Beyonce over Iron and Wine, Belle and Sebastian, Madlib, Madvillain, and really a tonne of artists. Say what you want about her, but Beyonce's a star, not an artist.
Their write up on her gives her way too much credit. I read it with Alicia Keys in mind instead and it made much more sense.
Posted by: Johnny Tuttle at 08/22/09 8:11 AM | Reply
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There's not a single Radiohead song in their catalog that is worse than any single song Beyonce has been associated with. Automatically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq-nPgOaO48

haha i think lex has stopped opening this thread but i want to see his face if he reads that
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Rs53-MPsJaI/R6UjmF0BG7I/AAAAAAAAE_U/sqZpIyWcOgE/s400/Shocked_Kidz_at_pc_sm.jpg

I'm sorry, but who is Annie, and why do we care about her song Heartbeat?

I have never heard, nor heard of, this song until today. When was it popular? Who was it popular with? Is it that great?
Posted by: jakobibryant profile link at 08/22/09 1:20 PM | Reply
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didn't know tuomas posted to stereogum!

2009 list is all indie rock, decade list is almost all hip hop. Identity crisis exposed!
Posted by: DK at 08/22/09 4:19 PM | Reply
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^^^t bomb alert!! though i dunno if this guy knows why

I know lots of people like that, and most of you do too, I'd wager My brother, bless his P4k-ed heart, shows my last.fm page to his friends for lols. He tells me that I have the most embarrassing taste of anyone he knows. That's probably true, but it shouldn't be simply because I listen to mainstream r&b and country.

Say what you want about her, but Beyonce's a star, not an artist.

Beyonce's not even a natural born citizen.

She likes them boys up top from the BK iirc

Wtf, no early Incubus?
Posted by: greg3ert at 08/21/09 11:23 PM | Reply
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the top albums better have more tvotr .. anyhow.. like it makes a difference what pitchfork thinks.. but some how they justify my opinions. but they are like a footnote in music
Posted by: Jay profile link at 08/22/09 3:02 PM | Reply
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Jay

baaaaa.
Posted by: Jay profile link at 08/22/09 3:05 PM | Reply
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ur doin it rong

I am familiar with 211 out of 500 songs for a score of 42.20% cool.

If I only listened to songs by or featuring T.I., I would be 43.50% cool.

In a weird way it does kinda matter what pitchfork thinks since it's the most popular music review website and more than a few brainless people probably use it often for recommendations without searching for an alternative.

Skinny Love at 179 is a travesty.
Posted by: bob cajun at 08/22/09 6:00 PM | Reply
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Oh yes. It's at least 322 places too high on the list...

burn!!!!!!!!!!

the bon iver record is very nice but skinny love is a bizarre choice for 'best song' by so many publications

How the hell did Rachel Stevens get in there? I mean, Some Girls was great but I never expected it to place on a Pitchfork list, even one with Tom E voting in it.

It also placed in the top half of our 2004 list. If "Sweet Dreams" or "I Said Never Again" didn't place the year before and after, they came very close.

In a weird way it does kinda matter what pitchfork thinks since it's the most popular music review website and more than a few brainless people probably use it often for recommendations without searching for an alternative.

not quite sure what is so brainless about that. if they're satisfied with music they've found through pitchfork and haven't felt the need to seek out an alternative well what's wrong with that? i agree that they make a sizable impact on the music industry though, at the hmv in montreal they fill two entire walls every time something gets best new music'd.

I hadn't looked at this list yet so I just went to the site and opened a few of them in browser windows. First one I looked at had Kelly Clarkson in it.

Fuck it, I'm not reading any of this shit.

It makes me think of all the movie reviewers that talk about how Michael Bay's movies are actually concept art rather than dumbed-down mainstream crap.

Well, I agree that Since You Been Gone is overrated. It is a good song, tho. And the P2k song list is good, too. Lots of new stuff I somehow overlooked (which is, to me, usually the best part of these lists).

Yeah, their list is pretty good if you like mainstream rap and hip hop. Nice to know our "indie" media outlets have sold out and become so mainstream. Yet, their attitude about any rock, mainstream or indie, is still completely pretentious and cutthroat. Wake up you fucking idiots! You are letting rock music die! Or, at least judge rap on the same cutthroat, pretentious level. Seriously, Kelly Clarkson's "Since U Been Gone" in the top 100? This list is a fucking joke.

Pretentious AND cutthroat! Who woulda thunk it?

Euler, what do you mean that Pitchfork's "attitude about any rock, mainstream or indie, is still completely pretentious and cutthroat"? What egregious omissions or inclusions are you referring to?

Euler's post is copy and pasted from stereogum, who i'm sure you're familiar with. If not, suffice it to say they have the dumbest/worst readership/commentors on the internet. I can't tell if adam's post is c&p'd from there too or just belongs there

Oh. I stopped reading Stereogum about a year ago.

Not necessarily a reflection on the blog. Just too much to read/do and not enough time to devote.

Plus, blogs are so 2006.

Hmm..."who I'm sure you're familiar with" seemed to come off unnecessarily condescending. Not what I meant at all; I used to read it back in the day too, now just mostly for the comments. Sry about that

just clowning around, Daniel, sorry!

No worries! I'm going to read the Stereogum comments now. They sound interesting. BRB.

Stereogum is such a piece of shit.

You know your list is fucked up when OutKast and LCD Soundsystem claim two spots in the top 20 songs of the decade. Reading Pitchfork has become like hate-sex.

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we ARE talking about Pitchfork here. They don't like post-rock, it's too brainy for them. Though, they did include EiTS's First Breath After Coma and GY!BE's Storm

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You are exactly right. But, they have to make sure they are "hip", like every other fucking loser commenting on how good this list is. It is acceptably cool to like mainstream rap and hip hop right now in indie circles, so hence, no country and a top 20 that looks like it could have came from Vibe magazine.

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This list is shit. Pitchfork, you are officially dead to me!

Gold.

a+

honestly, how could you ignore the entire BRIGHT EYES phenomena that occurred early to mid decade?

It hasn't been easy, trust me.

The Bright Eyes phenomenon, yes. Overpowering.

Reading Pitchfork has become like hate-sex.

Delete life.

fuck missy elliot and that shit song
Posted by: d@ve at 08/22/09 6:26 PM | Reply
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pitchfork is nothing more than online journalism, as evidenced by the quality of its writers, its pervasive amount of lists and the choices that go into those lists. it should never claim to be more than that.
Posted by: mork at 08/22/09 5:32 PM | Reply
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p4k = online journalism!!

These people can barely write.

how can anyone take this list seriously? jimmy eat world's "the middle" in the top 200 and only one pipettes song made the cut?!?!?!?!?!?!

the biggest crime, however, was the complete lack of songs from zwan.

Tegan and Sara, Metric, The Kills, Holly Miranda, The Jealous Girlfriends, Lykke Li, Alexisonfire, City and Colour, La Roux??
Where's all this good music?

No Zwan, no credibility. Honestly.

what's the 'online journalism' guy even trying to say?

Apparently "online journalism" is a pejorative! All online publications have bad writing and pointless lists!

kshighway it's gonna be okay i swear

everytime i click the "see all messages" thing i end up staying on this thread just so i can hear the will smith song to the end.