Flying Saucer Attack: Classic or Dud?

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Amp -- yep, a fan, and I even got the recent live album (which despite the legend was actually pretty good, so go figure) -- but yes, in the mid-nineties the prospect of Amp live reduced many a mortal to gibbering ravings of absolutely horrible shows. Allegedly Hood sponsored a show by them in Leeds and were gutted with the results.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I love their early stuff. That album with beats on (MIRROR or something???) I didn't like. But previous outings... 00H YEAH. Definitely classic.

Kodanshi, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

spotty, at best. for me, the male vocals were always the worst part. i really like the instrumentals (especially the ones with matt of 3rd eye foundation), and _further_ is overall amazing.

your null fame, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think that was at the feast&firkin circa april95? Amp, Hood and Mir.

gareth, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Was that Mir? Crumbs. An Ian Crause remix of one of their tracks has just come out and it's like the second coming of Disco Inferno. Or at least it sounded like that down a crackly phone line six months ago.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yes i rather wondered what had happened to Mir. they were the best band that night. amp were awful, hood were mediocre on that occasion.

gareth, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes kids, it's official - the Ian Crause remix of Mir's 'Year of the Monkey' is out on 8th October on lovely 7" vinyl.

Robbie, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anyone here ever played their take on "Sally Free And Easy" along with any of the myriad earlier versions? Throws up a hundred contextual speculations on what has isolated us from the land and the past, and makes you feel that in a sense we've actually got *closer* to that part of our history through separation, because the range of perspectives through which we can view it is so much wider. Playing the Pentangle and FSA versions of that song back to back was the most powerful resonance I've ever got of just how complicated these times are compared to those, how unreachable those times are, but that this need not be *in any way* a bad thing.

This, at their best, was what FSA did for me. When the fuzz took over I have to admit I was often left cold. Somewhere in between the two stereotypical positions I set up, perhaps.

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

clusters of geunine beauty amidst some grey dirges - 'The Whole Day' (with Roy Montgomery) being personal favourite. whereas most feedback-drenched rock is druggy + urban, longing for some lost pop innocence, FSA seem genuinely wide-eyed and rural, evoking early morning misty landscapes, reminding me curiously - in spirit, if not in sound- of the Boards of Canada. lovely use of photography on their covers.

stevo, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Any thoughts on Third Eye Foundation? I purchased "Little Lost Souls" today and I'm enjoying it thus far.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

six years pass...

I lost track after the third or fourth lp, but those first few are definitely classic/transcendent.

I played the "soaring high" 45 last night (and played it loud!) and it still sounds fresh.

city worker, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

I dragged these records out the other day (Chorus and Further) and was very pleasantly surprised. It's probably been ten years since I listened to them.

sleeve, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

Chorus and Further were all I listened to freshman year of college. I also really, really loved the 'noise collage' one on Bruce Russell's label. They were my absolute favorite band - all these years later, they're still in the top 100 somewhere. Classic.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

This whole Bristol scene used to be quite the trend but it's fallen off my radar. Are any of these people still doing anything? I know Matt Elliot started putting out albums under his own name; what I've heard hasn't touched the first three Third Eye Foundation albums. No idea about anyone else from FSA/Movietone/etc. doing anything of note in the last five or six years though.

Was Crescent part of this scene? Did anyone hear their album from this year? I've got one of their albums from around 2000 or so that blew my mind back then. Haven't listed to it in a long time though.

pgwp, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

I heard the Crescent album and it made little to no impression on me. I have two older albums by them and they didn't do much more, to be honest. Matt Elliott lives in France now and does live things every so often; Movietone are, I *think*, still extant but they always did stuff on the downlow anyway; not aware of either of the two FSAs up to anything. Who else is there?

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

heard some stuff i liked...

POX?

pc user, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

Whew, I could draw up a list but my brain is currently fried. But speaking as an FSA/3EF/Amp/Crescent/Light/Movietone junkie in general, there's a lot out there...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, a POX would be hard. What's David Pierce up to, anyway?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Elvis Telecom to thread...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

FSA POX!
1.Standing Stone (Distance)
2.Soaring High (Distance)
3.Dreaming Hill (Rural Psych)
4.A Silent Tide (Rural Psych)
5.In the Light of Time (Further)
6.Still Point (Further)
7.Outdoor Miner (single)
8.Coming Home (single)
9.Feedback Song (Chorus)
10.Always (Chorus)

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

I know that D. Pearce and Jessica Bailiff had a collaboration album on Kranky as Clear Horizon.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

i heard that wire cover, it's good. plus some other things, dunno what tho.

will check out, thanks

pc user, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

i like everything fsa did pretty much except i wasn't that big on Mirror or the collaboration with tele:funken (which was just fsa samples, so it wasn't really their fault).

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah I got pretty much nothing out of the Tele:funken thing tho I liked Mirror when it came out. Still think New Lands is well underrated. Forgot about Clear Horizon as well! Probably cos I never heard it

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, New Lands is good. I just don't listen to it near as much as the early ones.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

i haven't listened to new lands in a long time. come to think of it, i haven't listened to ANY of their albums in a long time. further might be my fave if i had to pick one.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

gotta love that groovy mirror cover though:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00003XAJB.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

hey Ned, did Light release anything besides that single on Wurlitzer Jukebox? 'cause that's all I have, but I love it. And does anyone know what exactly the FSA connection was?

sleeve, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

What in the hell! Never seen that. Is that a Savage Pencil design? My LP copy is a light brown sleeve with strange line drawings

xpost - album called 'Turning' IIRC

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

There was a Light full-length on Wurlitzer Jukebox that a friend of mine I had. I remember really loving it, but I heard it around the time that I was fully into this kind of thing. I would love to hear that again.
xpost-that's the US (Drag City) cover.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

And yes, it is Savage Pencil.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone heard Clear Horizon? I don't like Jessica Bailiff...

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

there were three Light full-lengths, Turning, Paperboat and the fairly recent Waterside Reverberations on Unlabel. i seem to remember at least as many 7"s.

i don't believe that there was any connection between Dave Mercer and FSA other than the special camaraderie enjoyed by the Bristol bands.

Mr. Hal Jam, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

wow, thanks! I'll have to keep an eye out for those.

sleeve, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I have the first two Light albums but not that third one. Must investigate. A comp of the singles would be great.

Speaking of, the three disc Amp rarities comp is killer.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

xpost. That Clear Horizon album is pretty much of a piece with the Flying Saucer Attack stuff, and it's *very* good. I've mentioned it in a few other threads: seems to have gotten completely overlooked because nobody knew who it was.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

"xpost-that's the US (Drag City) cover."

i never knew there were different covers! never hurts to sell the yanks a little razamataz.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

Trip Maker and others on this thread...thanks! I have long been an enthusiast of some unholy trinity or quadrernity or whatever of U.S. west coast bands influenced by F.S.A. (it's not too difficult to guess the suspects), but for whatever reason, I've never properly delved into Flying Saucer Attack's catalog. Gratzi for the recommendations and erudition.

Now I need to head over to the Dr. Savannah's Buzzard blah-blah Band thread to express thanks for turning me on to that stuff.

'tis the season.

dell, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

U.S. west coast bands influenced by F.S.A. (it's not too difficult to guess the suspects)

Aptly phrased.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

ha, yeah. 'nuff said.

dell, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

I second Clear Horizon. Very good album.

I think Movietone is still together, aren't they? I seem to recall they released an album a couple of years back. I love their s/t debut, but I didn't really get into the follow-ups.

Bill in Chicago, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

picked this up the other week, 'tis pretty immersive:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:anfexqyhldfe

stephen, Thursday, 5 June 2008 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

(let's try that again...)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21AMBVPGRFL._SL500_AA130_.jpg

stephen, Thursday, 5 June 2008 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, that's not my fave. i hardly ever played it. not like their other stuff. but it does have a fab cover.

maria and i have a new three hour sound collage/musique concrete/fx/cut & paste & loop radio show on her radio station and i was creating material for it and i played some FSA at 45 RPM and it sounded great! like they become the greatest shoegaze band ever and dude's vocals become MBV girly and cool. i could even see listening to a whole album like that. i was impressed by this totally new band i was listening to.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 June 2008 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

the ones that really blow me away are Further and the 1st S/T one aka Rural Psychedelia. Chorus is good in parts but I remember it being kinda inconsistent since is is a singles comp. New Lands seemed like a failed extension of the formula and I was even less enthusiastic about Mirror or whatever that was called.

I also really like the later singles - Sally Free And Easy, Coming Home, and the Roy Montgomery collab.

Was just reading a good interview with Dave in Popwatch #9, I wish there were still magazines like that.

sleeve, Friday, 6 June 2008 01:27 (eighteen years ago)

oh also the Corpus Hermeticum CD is a very different kind of beast but well worth tracking down (on MP3, I doubt it's in print). Kind of like Neil Young's Arc as applied to FSA.

sleeve, Friday, 6 June 2008 01:28 (eighteen years ago)

further is my fave. fave cover too

http://detour-mag.com/assets/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/flyingsaucerattack.jpg

then new lands and then chorus probably. as far as faves. i need a copy of the first album. don't have one on vinyl.

scott seward, Friday, 6 June 2008 01:30 (eighteen years ago)

picked this up the other week, 'tis pretty immersive:

Oh gee, I wonder who reviewed it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 June 2008 01:31 (eighteen years ago)

Further is the greatest, of theirs. For any other band Rainstorm Blues would been a stupid title, but they pull even that one off

sonderangerbot, Friday, 6 June 2008 01:51 (eighteen years ago)

yeah any of rural psychedelia, distance, and further is wonderful. i love chorus too but it's not up to the other three. i've never heard mirror, also i think i'm one of the few who love savage pencil's cover art for it

electricsound, Friday, 6 June 2008 01:53 (eighteen years ago)

their other stuff has a bit more of a pulse LL. i think the main reason people bring up popol vuh is cos they had tracks called 'popol vuh 1' and 'popol vuh 2'

feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 14:29 (ten years ago)

enjoyed that bristol piece in the wire btw. sent me back to movietone and crescent and i liked both of them a lot more this time around

feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 14:31 (ten years ago)

xp -
ok thx! are those tracks recommended?
sometimes it's easier to just ask than to look it up
that's what ilm is good for :)

La Lechera, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 14:41 (ten years ago)

they're quite ramshackle iirc, both on their debut album. next two albums were better imo - 'further' and 'new lands'

feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 14:49 (ten years ago)

Movietone is way, way, way underrated, even by people who generally dig this sorta thing. Those records feel like they're waiting to be rediscovered by anyone wishing there was a shoegaze band somehow more influenced by Bill Evans than Spacemen 3.

Further is my longtime favorite FSA, La Lechera. It seems to touch on everything they do well (though their truly 'pop' side isn't very well represented--maybe pair with the excellent "Outdoor Miner" single). If you like Further, I'd investigate, err, further. Generally speaking, I agree with the pfork review about "phase one" (aka the "Rachel era") being the band's peak, but alm0st everything to emerge from this scene is at least worth hearing. Follow yr bliss!

Wimmels, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:19 (ten years ago)

the 3 FSA "Popol Vuh" tracks are all on youtube if you do a quick search, two from the first lp, one from Distance.

koogs, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:56 (ten years ago)

the only FSA albums i didn't really listen to much were Mirror and the Tele:Funken collab. Further and New Lands are probably my faves.

i was late to the Clear Horizon album. i like that a lot. didn't even know it existed until a year or two ago:

http://www.discogs.com/artist/147841-Clear-Horizon

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:56 (ten years ago)

thanks, ppl!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:57 (ten years ago)

the Chorus comp too. I love that.

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:59 (ten years ago)

(which edition of the Wire are you talking about? what's on the cover?)

oh, http://www.thewire.co.uk/issues/ #378

y'know i went to whsmiths on monday night and looked then to see if the new one was out. nothing...

koogs, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 16:00 (ten years ago)

i would totally pay real american money for a good CD box. i have a lot of stuff on vinyl, but i would love a handy box-set with albums and singles/unreleased/comp tracks. even that heartbeat/complete comp was just vinyl only, i think. and i never saw it anywhere.

just a singles/comp tracks/EP box would be cool.

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 16:02 (ten years ago)

i think it's safe to say that if you listen to an FSA album and like it you'll probably like most of the other stuff too.

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 16:07 (ten years ago)

you just never know which popol vuh people are referring to, that's the main problem i guess

― La Lechera, Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:22 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Another musical Popol Vuh to def hear sometime is the crazy orchestral piece by that title by Alberto Ginastera. It sounds nothing whatsoever like danny and florian but it's a ton of fun

sorry for boring classical derail

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 16:11 (ten years ago)

(new issue of The Wire is out today according to the woman in whsmiths this morning. unfortunately it was in a box that she hadn't unpacked yet so i'll have to go back (for the 4th time))

koogs, Thursday, 16 July 2015 09:07 (ten years ago)

I never quite forgave FSA for beating me to covering Sally Free and Easy. My dad used to play it on his guitar all the time when I was a kid, and I wanted to cover it. So I downloaded lots of versions from Limewire or Oink or whatever it was then, and found their version sounded exactly like what I wanted to do with it. That was my intro, actually, and I do love them.

Rouge Trooper (dowd), Thursday, 16 July 2015 10:54 (ten years ago)

Really enjoyed that Wire piece though I'm sure reading it in the garden with a bottle of red and some Quorn Chorizo helped.

Strangely, I was bemused to find that I don't seem to own any Flying Saucer Attack albums (lost them? sold them?)

Happy to be prompted to play Movietone.

djh, Sunday, 19 July 2015 17:09 (ten years ago)

Remarkable how many people I've mentioned the Wire piece to have gone "Aren't Movietone fucking incredible? They're sounding better with time" or similar.

djh, Monday, 20 July 2015 21:27 (ten years ago)

I don't know why I didn't pay more attention to them the first time round tbh, they fit nicely alongside hood and dean roberts and all the other post-talk talk stuff I was listening to back then. saw them play once but it was at a festival thing where the whole intimacy of their sound was lost on a fairly large and noisy crowd

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 20 July 2015 21:43 (ten years ago)

Movietone that is

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 20 July 2015 21:44 (ten years ago)

I could see why they would have been missed at the time. I definitely like them more *now* than *then*.

djh, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:27 (ten years ago)

I was going to move this conversation over to a Movietone thread ... but there isn't one.

djh, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 21:09 (ten years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b066325j

(partial) repeat of the '96 peel session

Heartbeat (Radio 1 Session, 1 Mar 1996)
Guitar Blues (Radio 1 Session, 1 Mar 1996)
Resolution Island (Radio 1 Session, 1 Mar 1996)

(missing Jeff Mills Blues and I Can Take You To The Sun)

koogs, Monday, 17 August 2015 10:31 (ten years ago)

Dave's new FACT mix is an extremely pleasant listen but lol at the tracklisting http://www.factmag.com/2015/08/17/fact-mix-509-flying-saucer-attack/

Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Monday, 17 August 2015 11:45 (ten years ago)

haha, five disc CD changer on random style

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 12:12 (ten years ago)

haven't listened to amc for 25 years, might give it a whirl

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 12:13 (ten years ago)

two weeks pass...

Holy heck, an actual interview!

http://thequietus.com/articles/18662-dave-pearce-flying-saucer-attack-interview

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 16:59 (ten years ago)

Cool!

Having a hard time getting into the new one despite my best efforts. It sounds cool and all, but I guess I'm waiting for it to reveal itself beyond that.

Wimmels, Thursday, 3 September 2015 00:48 (ten years ago)

good interview

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 7 September 2015 23:51 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

Hey, I like it -- expanded reissue of In Search of Spaces on vinyl...

https://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/flying-saucer-attack-in-search-of-spaces-2xlp

But also streaming for free on Soundcloud

https://soundcloud.com/vhfrecords/sets/flying-saucer-attack-in-search-of-spaces-vhf145-2xlp

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 17:44 (eight years ago)

Also available on Bandcamp if you don't want the dead dinosaur version
https://flyingsaucerattack.bandcamp.com/album/in-search-of-spaces

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 04:23 (eight years ago)

three years pass...

Movietone 'Peel Sessions' (x3) release coming in the spring, according to their FB page.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 28 November 2020 17:13 (five years ago)

Nice!

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 29 November 2020 11:18 (five years ago)

three years pass...

"apology: unfortunately due to the 'blurred' stereo sound on these tracks, it's proved impossible to cut them successfully onto vinyl"

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 18 May 2024 22:48 (two years ago)

(they did eventually release a 12" with a mono version)

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 18 May 2024 22:48 (two years ago)

which FSA was that?

encino morricone (majorairbro), Monday, 20 May 2024 02:15 (two years ago)

the Sally Free And Easy 12"/CD

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Monday, 20 May 2024 03:32 (two years ago)

three weeks pass...

He's back! Kinda. Simon Scott's new Three Quarter Skies project has a new song out, and he mixed it with Dave:

https://threequarterskies.bandcamp.com/track/crows

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 June 2024 03:50 (one year ago)

six months pass...

Never listened to them until today.
Wow.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 7 January 2025 14:20 (one year ago)

The correct reaction!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 January 2025 16:50 (one year ago)

Love it when folks discover these records. Wow indeed!

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 7 January 2025 21:46 (one year ago)

My new work at home soundtrack :)

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 7 January 2025 21:58 (one year ago)

one month passes...

Is it weird that there's not a Movietone thread? In lieu of one, here seems the next best place for this nice thing: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/movietone-the-blossom-filled-streets/

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 18:28 (one year ago)


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