neil young

the BBC is a corporate corporation

In name only! You'd think he'd prefer a state broadcaster to a private company beholden to it's sponsors and advertisers. But we can only guess, coz he hasn't bloody told us the reasons!

I reckon it's something to do with the scandal involving BBC's Middle East editor Rafi Berg

this article explains the context of Owen Jones recent investigation

The BBC's Civil War Over Gaza

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/bbc-civil-war-gaza-israel-biased-coverage

Therefore from Neil Young's perspective he doesn't want to be associated with the BBC.

Really?

Nah.

It seems his previous appearance was covered by the BBC for five songs "as live, on the night" and one of those OKed for BBC iplayer, that was it.

So... what's the problem?

Oh, so in other words, he's just being egotistic and selfish? The BBC has to cater for all tastes. They can't broadcast his whole set, otherwise there wouldn't be enough time for all the other acts that people want to see. And the Pyramid Stage headliners *do* get the full sets as, well, they're the headliners. Just as Young himself was, in 2009.

But they didn't show the whole set last time he appeared there? I'm more confused now. Does he want his entire set broadcast or not? I suspect he doesn't.

That’s they way I read it as well.

yeah I suspect the issue is that he doesn't want his set broadcast at all but the BBC is insisting on showing at least part of it.

Yes, that makes sense.

There was some wording to the effect that broadcasting too much (or any?) of the set dilutes the live experience.

neil young in being cantankerous shocker

good. hopefully he can actually tour here instead.

The BBC still does a better job of fulfilling its Reithian objectives by broadcasting Glasto than by refraining from doing so. Everyone knows that it is no substitute for being there, but for a large section of the populace you'd have to make it your main holiday for the year to afford to go once you take travel, camping equipment etc into account. I'd far rather watch Glasto on the Beeb than on someone's shonky YouTube footage from their phone.

I know Neil Young is Canadian but I cast doubt on familiar he is with the BBC's Reithian objectives.

Probably not for this thread but the BBC's Glastonbury coverage for the last 28 years has always been crap, shiny fucking Jo Whiley acoustic tent bollocks and only the most Radio 2 stuff from the pyramid stage. Channel 4 did an infinitely better job in 94/95.

Dunno how recently you've seen it, but it's changed a lot in the last ten years. Anyone who has the free iPlayer can see literally every single set from the 5 main stages in full, on there and there's 24 hour streaming, non stop radio, catch-ups galore etc

Channel 4 pretty much just showed a highlights package which was maybe two-or-three hours of scattered footage in 30 minute chunks for each of the three nights.

Yes, watch the iPlayer and you avoid the garbage BBC presenters.

Seen it recently yes, but I want it curated and stuff from other stages, also C4 did a lot of stuff out there in the festival grounds which captured the non-celeb experience.

of course it doesn't help that I have no interest in 90% of the stuff on the pyramid stage

“It’s macaroni and cheese from now on” is right up there with “Eat a peach”

It's sorted, Neil is back on the bill!

lol

“It’s macaroni and cheese from now on” is right up there with “Eat a peach”

Hmm. Wonder why it didn’t mask properly. That’s the Buffalo Springfield thread.

i'm all for hearing newly unearthed demos, alternate recordings, etc., but sometimes it seems neil's interest these days is less in surfacing previously unreleased songs and albums and more in surfacing previously unused tracklists. do i really need a fourth late '70s studio album that features "pocahontas" (which, for what it's worth, may be my favorite neil song)?

https://www.stereogum.com/2291966/neil-young-releasing-another-lost-70s-album-oceanside-countryside/news/

but are they different versions?

here's the official word if you can untangle it:

Please note that while the songs on Oceanside Countryside appear on Archives Vol. III, the versions are not always the same and the track list is the running order for the original Oceanside Countryside album. On this analog original vinyl release, the versions of “Lost in Space,” “Captain Kennedy” and “The Old Homestead” are from Hawks & Doves in 1980. “Sail Away”, “Goin’ Back”, “Human Highway”, “It Might Have Been”, and “Pocahontas” are the same versions as on Archives Vol. III in digital. “Field of Opportunity” and “Dance Dance Dance” are original versions that have Young on backing vocals instead of Nicolette Larson as they appeared on Archives Vol. III.

All the songs on the Oceanside are performed solo by Neil Young. On Countryside Young is joined by a band of his friends: Ben Keith (Steel Guitar), Rufus Thibodeaux (fiddle), Karl T. Himmel (drums), Joe Osborne (bass). On “The Old Homestead” Tim Drummond plays bass and Levon Helm plays drums. “Pocahontas” is Young solo.

the same versions as on Archives Vol. III in digital

lol that's exactly how i categorize everything in my neil collection: by how it compares to the version on archives iii in digital :)

thanks for the tangly info, tyler!

ok yeah that's pretty annoying

i can't tell if this comment on that stereogum article is facetious

I have to commend Neil for releasing this glut of albums before he eventually passes on. This is the proper way to do it - protect your legacy, or end up like the Prince and Bowie estates and have a hodgepodge of releases, in no discernable order.

he is certainly protecting his legacy of being an inscrutable and maddening contrarian, tbf

i mean, i'd rather he put these out during his lifetime than being handled by his estate. it just wouldn't feel true to the spirit of Neil!

Isn't "Hodgepodge" one of his albums anyway?

Not sure why that comment is picking on the Bowie estate which has been putting things out in a consistent, orderly way.

The Prince situation is a hot mess though.

New Song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIKxvzY8sJs

At least Neil is still with us. Good stuff.

Hahah Neil and crew wrote this one in ten minutes, right?

God, that kicks ass.

That brief, incandescent guitar solo in the middle of it, it's so blithely avant, so scoured clean of cliche, so plugged-in and alive. Classic Neil.

Produced by Rick Rubin?

Lou Adler!

lol I love the idea of him and Neil in a room together, each taking turns turning everything up so that they can hear it.

Lou is a good pick becuz imagine he's a sleazy vibe guy, "baby that was beautiful" and not a faux-zen shaman like Rubin, let Neil worry about the space-y guy he needs an earthier, Briggs type worrying about scoring coke before the next take

cool song

hell yeah

he's a sleazy vibe guy

The producer sat back
He said, What we have got here
Is a perfect track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrBQQSEW2Fs

i had no idea there was a cockroach-roomba touring era of NY and crazy horse!

Pursuant to the “all members of this band are dead” thread, it is amazing/wonderful that (apart from founding guitarist Danny Whitten who died at age 29) the main players in Crazy Horse are in their 9th decade and still living. Long life and good health to you, Crazy Horse!