Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

I agree, M@tt. It's interesting to me from an intellectual standpoint; I don't really get people who are like "I can't BELIEVE so-and-so didn't make the list! This is an OUTRAGE!!"

I'm kinda more interested in what RS would pick as their best 100 albums. I feel like it'd be a bit more surprising maybe?

Only if its top 20 wasn't filled with, say, various comeback discs from Bruce Springsteen, The Rolling Stones, Steely Dan, The Eagles, zzzzzzzzzz . . . .

Has Foghat had a comeback album this decade?

I'm pretty sure Bruce Springsteen is the only act out of that few that would place on RS's top 20.

Tomorrow's top 10 today:

10. Tori Alamaze - Don't Cha (fuck a Pussycat Dolls)
9. Avalanches - Since I Left You
8. Bon Jovi - It's My Life
7. Qb's Finest - Oochie Wally
6. Drowning Pool - Bodies (gets me pretty pumped)
5. Boredoms - 77 Boadrum (even though I got a nasty sunburn)
4. Three 6 Mafia feat. UGK and Project Pat - Sippin' On Some Syrup
3. Daft Punk - One More Time
2. M.I.A. - Paper Planes
1. Santana feat. Michelle Branch - The Game of Love

I have this on good authority.

Mordy: Yeah, that may be. I'm really not looking forward to the Rolling Stone list, tho. It will certainly be more surprising to me than Pitchfork's list, but only because I expect so little from Rolling Stone at this point.

I think songs like "9X Outta 10" and "Pretty Wings" would have made this list if they had come out earlier this year.

or in 2003

That Santana/Branch mention reminds me that I really, really like "They-Say Vision" by Res. That's quite definitely one of my 500 favorite songs of the decade. This is why I suck at lists, I think: it's really hard to mentally sort through the stuff that isn't important or era-defining or super-memorable enough to leap into your memory at the right moment.

Springsteen is the only act out of that few that would place on RS's top 20.

Love and Theft and Modern Times will both be on many decade-end lists. Dylan's on a prolonged hot streak.

Dylan wasn't listed in "that few"

That Santana/Branch mention reminds me that I really, really like "They-Say Vision" by Res. That's quite definitely one of my 500 favorite songs of the decade. This is why I suck at lists, I think: it's really hard to mentally sort through the stuff that isn't important or era-defining or super-memorable enough to leap into your memory at the right moment.

― don't kill children, don't run 'em over (nabisco), Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:52 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did you vote for her album?

I didn't -- the reason I'm mentioning it is because Res somehow never popped into my head during the whole process.

Dylan wasn't listed in "that few"

Yeeaaahhhh, but I should have mentioned him. Dylan will be to Rolling Stone's best-album-of-the-decade list what Radiohead will be to Pitchfork's best-album-of-the-decade list.

So far (this might be wrong):
5 DFA
11 rough trade
8 songs that have kanye in them some way. (Anyone have a count on Timbaland?)
19 from XL
12 Domino
11 Virgin
48 from 2000
14 from 2009
3 from Modular, go Modular, heh.
etc

9 on 4AD (10 if you count staring at the sun), not bad

only 2 songs from 2009 in 200-21

One more's coming up.

8. Bon Jovi - It's My Life

haha this would make the list worth it IMO

8 songs that have kanye in them some way. (Anyone have a count on Timbaland?)

9 Timbaland, 9 Neptunes, 7 Jay-Z, 5 Dr. Dre, 4 Lil Wayne, 4 T.I.

you counting the Alicia Keys remix in the Kanye column or not?

Wait wait, here's the fact I want: how many songs have appeared on an American "Now What's What I Call Music" compilation?

and its up

Booya to whoever it was backthread who didn't believe me outkast would get #1

And no, no black horseys.

lol I missed this at first: It goes without saying that "Blind" captivates any dancefloor.

All of my many caveats aside, it's a good list, and there's some very good writing attached.

It was fun to read. I hadn't read pitchfork regularly since 2004, so it was fun to return to it for the review.

DFA has four in the last twenty.

Great song, but I hate how he writes: "and product placements ("Yo quiero Taco Bell") that read like the world's first Twitter feed.", as if that is an inspiring reason it is ahead of its time (kind of a stretch too as an example). I feel like he is subtly hinting at Twitter as an important cultural phenomenon. I just hate Twitter- it is the worst example of our cultural need to spew digital brain vomit.

lol @ My Girls being top 10. It's not even in the top 5 on MPP.

How exactly in the hell did "All My Friends" place higher than "Losing My Edge"?

the bettersongness aspect prolly

who cares

the 99 problemz blurb is wacky. i normally like mark p but ... his 'real' crossover???

who cares

― butthurt (deej), Friday, August 21, 2009 1:13 AM (4 minutes ago)

With respect to "Hard Knock Life", this was Jay-Z's real crossover moment, the single that catapulted him out of hip-hop superstardom and into the real mainstream vernacular.

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2471208/2/istockphoto_2471208_bewildered_businessman_mchipster228.jpg

i cant wait until next decade is over

i mean i know mark p. is from london and all but what... the... fuck...

With respect to "P2K", this was Pitchfork's real crossover moment, the list that catapulted them out of internet magazine superstardom and into the real ILX vernacular.

The list is pretty damn solid. If I was gonna make my own list, it would pretty much look like their hip-hop choices minus the mid-decade stumping for trap-rap and dipset

I can see the "99 Problems" thing. None of my white friends were into Jay-Z until that came out.

who cares

― butthurt (deej), Friday, August 21, 2009 1:13 AM (4 minutes ago)

― Yeah, well, jazz isn't exactly in love with Johnny either. (bug), Friday, August 21, 2009 1:18 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i care more about that than lcd stansystem fans arguing over which single of the two that placed in the top 20 is better

The list is pretty damn solid. If I was gonna make my own list, it would pretty much look like their hip-hop choices minus the mid-decade stumping for trap-rap and dipset

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, August 21, 2009 1:29 AM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

which tracks are you excluding here?

do yr shoulders bruise from patting yourself on the back so hard

i'm patting myself on the back because I'm saying I like 80% of p4k's rap choices?

i care more about that than lcd stansystem fans arguing over which single of the two that placed in the top 20 is better

― butthurt (deej), Friday, August 21, 2009 2:30 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Good for you. imo, "Losing My Edge" probably placed right. But I wouldn't have even put "All My Friends" in the top 100.

I can see the "99 Problems" thing. None of my white friends were into Jay-Z until that came out.

― im a square wave and this is my hetero life partner jim jonsin (The Reverend), Friday, August 21, 2009 1:29 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

get new white friends

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Great song, but I hate how he writes: "and product placements ("Yo quiero Taco Bell") that read like the world's first Twitter feed.", as if that is an inspiring reason it is ahead of its time (kind of a stretch too as an example). I feel like he is subtly hinting at Twitter as an important cultural phenomenon. I just hate Twitter- it is the worst example of our cultural need to spew digital brain vomit.

Even if the twitter comment is OTM you could get into the critical debate over whether being influential equals being worthwhile. Talking about how "important" and what a touchstone, say, "Is This It?" was doesn't get into the issue of whether it was any good.

In my opinion, too much criticism focuses on influence and not enough on whether or not and why something is great per se. The blurbs can be repetitive when they're little more than a secret history of indie rock trends.

I can see the "99 Problems" thing. None of my white friends were into Jay-Z until that came out.

Around when 99 Problems came out I remember this teenage would-be record producer of my friend's band lecturing us kids on why Jay-Z wasn't gangta rap because "he raps about clothes and shit. That's not gangsta rap. That's totally different." So there were a lot of misconceptions about Jay-Z at the time.

xxp: Seriously, I don't think I knew anyone white who took Jay-Z seriously until "99 Problems" came out, even hiphop dudes. I found it kind of confounding at the time that only black dudes and chicks listened to Jay-Z. Obviously, this is my limited anecdotal evidence, I'm sure your circles were a lot more hip than mine, whatever.

idk man - i remember "big pimpin" & "i just wanna luv u" & "can i get a..." & "izzo" & "dirt off your shoulder" all being pretty big mainstream crossover successes. maybe it got every last white person on the planet but i mean cmon, the guy had like 6 #1 albums before "99 problems" was released. just an asinine statement.

Keep in mind that I grew up in a pretty square place.