Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

And yeah, I agree Heartbeat has to place.

naked as we came was used in a great corny/effective way in Tarnation btw, and kinda sets the standard for emotional youtube slideshow musics

Re "Bird Stealing Bread": I think a song from 2002 that didn't make their top 100 tracks of 2000-04 has a pretty tough road to hoe at this point.

Probably right. I'm projecting.

So kinda more interesting question: What do you guys think the #1 song is going to be? I kinda think "Maps" would be the perfect song for PFM to pick as their #1 (and I wouldn't be terribly disappointed by the choice either).

something by arcade fire

guys, iron and wine is not making the top 20.

guys will 'crank dat' be there

Didn't think they were. I don't think Iron & Wine should make the singles list. I do hope they place at least two of their albums on the album list.

half serious question tbh

I think "It Wasn't Me" and "Hot in Herrre" were two of the best 500 (!) singles of the decade, and I gotta imagine PFM just forgot about them.

Is Air France already on the list?

"Collapsing at Your Doorstep" is #148. Still not sure why people like that better than "No Excuses."

Yeah Jaymc's list is pretty much what I'm expecting, minus Interpol, one or both of the Kanye's and The Strokes and plus My Girls, Maps, Machine Gun and maybe Happy House. I know that's still more than 20 but genuinely can't imagine them leaving any of these out of the 500.

― Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:33 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what is 'machine gun'?

don't you know the mighty portishead?

oh. yeah i doubt that makes it

i think i don't really like indie rock anymore maybe?

B.O.B. won the 2000-04 one, right? I'm going for 3. B.O.B., 2. Hey Ya, 1. Maps

deej, did you vote? that is a list i'd be interested to see.

i find it's a lot easier to like some but not all indie rock and not have huge freakouts and identity crises about that if i just think of it as being a genre made up of lots of different people with different interests and imagine that consensus is impossible to measure and that noone's individual tastes need to have any relationship to anyone else's.

but i'm a dreamer.

i had the exact same reaction to the radiohead song coming after classic clipse & classic jt & classic rihanna that i would have had if they had posted a youtube video of "never gonna give you up"

That's what I was trying to say upthread, J0rdan.

Yeah, I don't think "Machine Gun" makes it, either.

PFM Top 10 of 2008 (Placement on Decade List)

1. Blind (not placed)
2. White Winter Hymnal (66)
3. Ready for the Floor (76)
4. L.E.S. Artistes (151)
5. Kim and Jessie (256)
6. Nothing Ever Happened (81)
7. Hearts on Fire (102)
8. Collapsing at Your Doorstep (148)
9. Machine Gun (not placed)
10. American Boy (238)

I put Astley at #1, but apparently Youtube reissues didn't qualify as "00s"

also I dunno what the top 20 will be, but you know, "no Avril, no credibility"

"My Love" was ranked way way too high imo. if that's 2nd highest ranking Timbo track (or, more likely, 3rd if "Get Ur Freak On" is top 20) it'll be pretty fucked up.

yeah, just meant that the stuff from the early 00's that I liked then, I still like a lot and a lot of it is very consensus stuff, the consensus stuff I like from post 05 I like a lot less and it feels a bit workaday on the list, while obv it is no more or less deserving of praise or whatever than the stuff I like, i dunno

deej, did you vote? that is a list i'd be interested to see.

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:49 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

joined too late for singles, voted on albums

Agreed jmc wrt "no excuses"

Mordy cut it out with the tiring singles/tracks dichotomy, please. I basically agree with what you're saying but it's not explicitly a singles list

Xposts

yeah... i mean that's always going to be my biggest reservation about these lists but at a certain point there's no point in talking about that

Fuck you, k3v. Like me pointing that out is more tedious than posting guesses of the top 20 of PFM's list eight hours before they just post the fucking thing?

no it's not more tiring than hassling over rules that they themselves imposed because hey it's their site!

callin a dude out by his GOOGLE-PROOFED name when shit gets heated

It's his posting name, dude?

Look, guys, I know we're all really hot about the new results list, but let's take a step back and some few breaths and give out some bro-hugs. We can't let PF top singles of decade List get between us.

i meant as opposed to callin a dude out by his ACTUAL name when shit gets heated

you wouldn't be surprised if 'one more time' somehow didn't make it into their top 500 songs???

I wouldn't be surprised if it *was* in there, either. It just seems like they're trying to slim down some of the selections from the mid-decade countdown, and "Digital Love" is chillin at number 23 (or 22?) I also doubt that Kanye will snag two slots--I'll bet that "Gone" took "Gold Digger"s place.

I don't know how "The Rat" snuck into the Top 20, but I can't imagine them wholly leaving it off--especially since it's mentioned in one of the blurbs.

Also, it's interesting that all the songs on the list from 2009 are rock songs. Where's "9x Outta 10"?

i feel like most of their pop/rap choices gathered consensus over time. "Blame It" or something might be on the year-end singles list, but it's not gonna be anywhere here yet.

There are going to be some left field choices, otherwise what's the point of doing something like this.

Depends on how they compiled the list. If it was a straight vote, probably note. If it was composed, you're right, there'll probably be a curve ball or two (here's hoping it's "Happy House").

it's hard for me to get up in arms about lists like this...

just because it's not like this is ACTUALLY the best music of the decade it's just "sort of the best music that a website like pitchfork would put in its best music of the decade list"

just like rolling stone "best albums of all time" are just "the best 100 albums of the sort that rolling stone would generally put in a list like this"

I'm kinda more interested in what RS would pick as their best 100 albums. I feel like it'd be a bit more surprising maybe?

I agree, M@tt. It's interesting to me from an intellectual standpoint; I don't really get people who are like "I can't BELIEVE so-and-so didn't make the list! This is an OUTRAGE!!"

I'm kinda more interested in what RS would pick as their best 100 albums. I feel like it'd be a bit more surprising maybe?

Only if its top 20 wasn't filled with, say, various comeback discs from Bruce Springsteen, The Rolling Stones, Steely Dan, The Eagles, zzzzzzzzzz . . . .

Has Foghat had a comeback album this decade?

I'm pretty sure Bruce Springsteen is the only act out of that few that would place on RS's top 20.

Tomorrow's top 10 today:

10. Tori Alamaze - Don't Cha (fuck a Pussycat Dolls)
9. Avalanches - Since I Left You
8. Bon Jovi - It's My Life
7. Qb's Finest - Oochie Wally
6. Drowning Pool - Bodies (gets me pretty pumped)
5. Boredoms - 77 Boadrum (even though I got a nasty sunburn)
4. Three 6 Mafia feat. UGK and Project Pat - Sippin' On Some Syrup
3. Daft Punk - One More Time
2. M.I.A. - Paper Planes
1. Santana feat. Michelle Branch - The Game of Love

I have this on good authority.

Mordy: Yeah, that may be. I'm really not looking forward to the Rolling Stone list, tho. It will certainly be more surprising to me than Pitchfork's list, but only because I expect so little from Rolling Stone at this point.

I think songs like "9X Outta 10" and "Pretty Wings" would have made this list if they had come out earlier this year.

or in 2003

That Santana/Branch mention reminds me that I really, really like "They-Say Vision" by Res. That's quite definitely one of my 500 favorite songs of the decade. This is why I suck at lists, I think: it's really hard to mentally sort through the stuff that isn't important or era-defining or super-memorable enough to leap into your memory at the right moment.

Springsteen is the only act out of that few that would place on RS's top 20.

Love and Theft and Modern Times will both be on many decade-end lists. Dylan's on a prolonged hot streak.

Dylan wasn't listed in "that few"