Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

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was not nec. directed at you fwiw

oh yr talkin disp names nm

was not nec. directed at you fwiw

^^^^^ May become my new display name.

Talking about indie rock in a thread dedicated to P4k's end-of-the-decade list. Wow.

kshighway, i guess that i just don't know anyone your age who listens to that music. and i have a lot of friend who are your age. maybe it's just some weird thing, a mystery.

what i'm listening to right now?

White Rainbow New Clouds
A Broken Consort The Shape Leaves
Luciano Tribute to the Sun
Lemonade
Gemini In and Out of Lights and Fog
Stars of the Lid
a lot of Ron Trent

so a mixture of more ambient/noisy stuff mixed with house and techno, pretty much. 99% of guitar-driven, rock-influenced music bores the shit out of me at this point.

Anyway, FORGOT ABOUT DRE. Shiiiiit. I really hope Detox comes out this year. We've been waiting far too long. I would've loved to see "Still Dre" on the P2k list too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erbraZmuwmI

Btw, what the fuck happened to Nate Dogg? Back in 2000 or so, it seemed like he was in half of the mainstream rap videos I was watching on MTV.

Thanks, table! I'm going to check out some of that stuff.

kshighway, i highly rec. White Rainbow, Stars of the Lid and A Broken Consort. seems like these could be your sort of thing, esp. the last two.

Y'all don't like this list? BLOW ME.

I already have Stars of the Lid's "Refinement..." record, and I love it, so I'll definitely check out the other too. A++. Thanks dude.

(the white rainbow doesn't come out til october... but his last record is also good, not as dreamy though)

also do you like Low? i am pissed that Low are definitely not going to be on this list, but i really stan for Low. so whatevs.

Agreed. Low has become one of the best rock bands of the decade imo. They should be on the list.

They could make the album list. Not sure which one would be selected. I love the last two, but I know I'm in the minority, especially with regards to The Great Destroyer.

I would've loved to see "Still Dre" on the P2k list too.

"Still" and the album came out in late '99, "Forgot" and "Next Episode" were released as singles in 2000

Never heard Low. I'll look into them also.

Shit, you're right. "Still" was the first single, right? Yeah. It was "Still," "Forgot . . .," then "Next Episode."

I love The Great Destroyer. My favorite Low album. I think "Silver Rider" should be on the singles list, but if anything from Low will get on this list it will probably be something from Things We Lost In The Fire.

yeah, that's the order.

daniel, i stopped listening after Great Destroyer. Things We Lost in the Fire and Trust are two of the best non-electronic records of the decade, tho, imo. but i am really into slow shit.

Sunflower, for sure.

all right, now i head off to write crap features on dubstep for five hours. enjoy this thread, i have been roffling all morning.

kshighway, i guess that i just don't know anyone your age who listens to that music.

lol @ the idea of indie rock being the province of high schoolers

also lol @ using the phrase "your age" for someone who graduated from college a year after you.

I think "Silver Rider" should be on the singles list

Yeah! In the proper context (Tr: winter), that wordless chorus still gives me chills.

i kinda think of indie rock fans as being mainly twenty somethings, most of my friends like a lot of haircut indie and bloghouse and santogold etc.

wilco aren't really indie though are they? they're way more dadrockish

YHF is a good album as well

Wilco is "classic indie"

is that like "classic house"

i mean, they're from chicago right?

not all people of the same age like all the same stuff, it's true!

read this on a chinese cookie once but I guess you're right

I'm totally using "haircut indie" from now on, thx

totally calling the top 20% of these pitchfork decade lists "the haircut 100" from now on

Is Haircut Indie distinct from Mustache Indie?

Never heard Low. I'll look into them also.

― ^^^^^ May become my new display name. (kshighway)

Dude they opened for Wilco on the Sky Blue Sky tour. In fact their set was one of the best I've seen in the last five years.

I missed them on that tour! Saw them two months ago w/ Conor Oberst, and it was very, very excellent.

basically low rules.

but great destroyer isn't that great, esp compared to "things we lost in the fire" or all the albums that came out before it.

but it's still good.

Drums & Guns = the bestest.

What I like about The Great Destroyer is that it's so dark and heavy. With the exception of Drums and Guns, Low have gotten louder and more demonstrative with each album. The Great Destroyer seems to me like the fullest realization of their sound.

but great destroyer isn't that great

I guess the criticism of The Great Destroyer is that it is too generic and loses some of Low's unique slowcore charm. But (a) I thought the more aggressive, revved-up sound was a jarring and welcome development and (b) the album was sort of a gateway to Drums & Guns, which seemed like a perfect blend of Low's various sounds and aesthetics.

Two Dans, thinking alike.

yeah, breaker is awesome, I figure Breaker or sunflowers are gonna make the list.

i liked monkey but the rest of the great destroyer kinda passed me by

Nels Cline played some lap steel with Low during that set iirc. They played some 20 minute instrumental piece with him that was one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. (xpost)

Think I'm gonna listen to their "In The Fishtank" with the Dirty 3 right now.

Nels Cline played some lap steel with Low during that set iirc. They played some 20 minute instrumental piece with him that was one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. (xpost)

0_0 Wow! I would love to have seen that show.

yeah, breaker is awesome, I figure Breaker or sunflowers are gonna make the list.

Low is such a low-key band, tho. If they haven't been on the list up to now, I have little hope they'll make it in the Top 50. I'd love to see them there, tho.

Someone upthread suggested a category in these lists for bands that didn't have a huge single "statement" album or song, to avoid them getting lost in the shuffle. The example they gave was Spoon, but I think Low is an even better example. In any event, I think that would be an interesting list.

"(That's How You Sing) Amazing Grace" and "Canada" from Trust are also great. That whole album is fantastic.

Sunflowers has been used in a lot of movies and tv shows though iirc and its a slow burn under the radar "oh you love that song too?" kinda thing, so I wouldn't be too surprised if you guys were surprised

i don't have a problem with them going for a fuller sound i just think a lot of the songs on destroyer feel like filler.

The Low Christmas shows they used to do at First Ave were amazing, would have pine tree forest onstage and a small church choir from Duluth and some members of a Duluth newgrass band called Trampled by Turtles.

they did Merry Xmas (War is over) by Lennon it was pretty transporting

Spoon did have a big single with 'way we get by' didn't they?

Well, looking back at the track-listing, it has more filler than I remember. But the highpoints -- e.g., Monkey, California, Silver Rider, Step, and Death Of A Salesman -- are extraordinary.

(xp)

I think Spoon's biggest hit was The Underdog, no?