Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

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Hounds of Love as well, and that still gets played at UK 'indie' nights.

it made #8 on the pop charts there too

da croupier, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:11 (sixteen years ago)

i was thinking this too. def the case for ghost 'tracks' like "Shakey Dog" & "Nutmeg". & picking nutmeg of cherchez laghost, which was a bigger club single, is even more random (im assuming cherchez probably wont place). It kind of annoys me bcuz there are SOOOO many rap songs from iffy albums that deserve/earned attention that will be ignored in favor of tracks from LPs that will be def represented on the albums list.

yeah, i complained about the tracks-representing-albums thing upthread. but still, it's pretty clear those songs sum up GK's appeal for the people that voted for him, his one token club hit does not.

imo g-unit 'wanna get to know you' is better than half the rap singles on this list.

yeah but that's a challop

im also SUPERsurprised at how low "Stay Fly" placed ... behind a kanye album track??? super random

super surprised? really? i dunno i'm just happy to see songs like "Stay Fly" on there at all

some dude, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:22 (sixteen years ago)

Like I don't remember "Hounds of Love" being a particularly break-through track on that Futureheads album, and it's a good song, but it's good in a way that a lot of the other songs are good. I'm curious why they decided to include one Futureheads song and picked that one, or whether a few people actually felt that was the definitive Futureheads single. (It seems like this in a couple places -- the Fleet Foxes song is another good example.)

I dunno, it definitely seemed to me that a lot of people who weren't particularly Futureheads fans got excited about the fact that they covered a Kate Bush song and did it really well. IIRC, it finished in the top 10 of both Pitchfork and Stylus in 2005.

As for "White Winter Hymnal," it was in fact the first single off the Fleet Foxes album, so it was probably a lot of people's introduction to that band. It was also on Time magazine's top 10 of 2008. The only other song of theirs that I could've seen placing would've been "Mykonos," since it was the standout track on the EP and the first song they played on SNL. But "White Winter Hymnal" isn't that much of a surprise, really.

jaymc, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:46 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder if that Quarashi single will place higher than "B.Y.O.B." I think the theme from the Requiem For A Dream soundtrack is a lock for top 5. And umm.. four words.. "You Know You're Right??" Hello???

billstevejim, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:52 (sixteen years ago)

"Jesus Etc." is its wizened brother, meditating on last cigarettes amidst stabs of pedal steel and eerily dovetailing with 9/11 ("Tall buildings shake", "skyscrapers are scrapin' together").

CONGRATS U WROTE LYRICS ABT 9/11

god this song is worse than i remember.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:08 (sixteen years ago)

I strongly support "Jesus, etc."

billstevejim, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:09 (sixteen years ago)

Much the best track on that album.

post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:20 (sixteen years ago)

Super pumped to see clinic's "distortions" on there, one of my favorite songs ever

ash ra - i love temple (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

I strongly support "Jesus, etc."

^^^^^ This. Obviously, there's lots of room to quibble and complain about omissions and ordering, but there's a lot of great songs on the Pitchfork list.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:58 (sixteen years ago)

"Jesus Etc." is its wizened brother, meditating on last cigarettes amidst stabs of pedal steel and eerily dovetailing with 9/11 ("Tall buildings shake", "skyscrapers are scrapin' together").

CONGRATS U WROTE LYRICS ABT 9/11

god this song is worse than i remember.

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Great song! And it was written BEFORE 9/11, so that comment makes no sense.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_hotel_foxtrot):

Wilco had planned on releasing Yankee Hotel Foxtrot on September 11, 2001, but Tweedy did not want a change in record labels to significantly delay the release of the album. . . . In a decision aimed at discouraging the pirating of lower quality MP3s and having some control over how the album was distributed, on September 18, 2001, . . .

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:20 (sixteen years ago)

Also, the best track on Yankee is NOT "Jesus, etc.," which seems to be the consensus pick for non-Wilco fans, but "Ashes of American Flags," esp. in its Kicking Television incarnation w/ Nels Cline's solo.

"The cash machine is blue and green . . ."

That three-note guitar figure that keeps emerging throughout the song in the background is the perfect touch on a wonderful song.

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:22 (sixteen years ago)

esp. in its Kicking Television incarnation w/ Nels Cline's solo.

All music is better with Nels Cline.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:25 (sixteen years ago)

^ This is true. Except even he couldn't save Sky Blue Sky. I want a Wilco record where they really let him loose. Having him play these strange, backwards 30 second solos at the end of "Everlasting Everything" and "One Wing" does not count.

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

Wilco is fucking terrible

Moka Pwnly (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:29 (sixteen years ago)

Remember when people cared about Sigur Ros?

Moka Pwnly (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:29 (sixteen years ago)

Whiney, good morning!

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:32 (sixteen years ago)

i have a really small and insignificant complaint about this list: it reads too much like a random mash up of all their previous year end lists with the words just rearranged a bit. what i really appreciate in a thing like this is when secretely wonderful album tracks replace singles, or when something that's not already been best new music'd or highly reviewed pops up, when guilty pleasures are exposed, trump cards played. the 2001-04 list was nice cause it was mostly radio jams and populist indie hits, kind of showed that pitchfork writers still know what's up even when they step out of their niche. i suppose this is kind of their big chance to formally establish the pitchfork canon as definitively as they can, but it doesn't make for a very interesting read i gotta say. good tunes, though.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

chris i gotta say at this point you might as well be mooning college kids for playing fleet foxes in the student lounge.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

I really love Sigur Ros! I got into Agaetis byrjun pre-college when a friend recommended them to me and I heard "Olsen Olsen." I also got into "( )" around that time, and I would still rank Untitled #1, #4, and #8 as some of my favorite postrock songs of the decade. "Glosoli" from Takk... has THE best postrock climax I've heard.

The "new" one from last summer is kind of bad, though.

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)

samosa has a point. although i was pleasantly surprised to see "The Middle" on the list all these years after that awful Bleed American review.

some dude, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:52 (sixteen years ago)

i just tried reading this thread and stopped after like the third kshighway spazz out. could anyone fill me in wrt if we at any point start talking about music or this pitchfork list?

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:04 (sixteen years ago)

Still going through the list, and I'm THRILLED to see that "Forgot About Dre" came in at 68. Such a great song. In 8th grade, one of my best friends and I memorized the entire song and would rap it at lunch. The video, too, is hilarious.

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:19 (sixteen years ago)

kinda interesting to see it higher than any other Eminem (assuming none of his other solo singles will place higher than "Real Slim Shady," "Lose Yourself" and "Without Me")

some dude, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:22 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe "Stan" will.

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:25 (sixteen years ago)

Surprised that Silent Shout placed as low as it did. I figured that would be in the top 20 fer sure.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:25 (sixteen years ago)

kinda interesting to see it higher than any other Eminem (assuming none of his other solo singles will place higher than "Real Slim Shady," "Lose Yourself" and "Without Me")

― some dude, Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:22 AM (3 minutes ago)

Yeah! That's especially surprising because Eminem has been much more of a presence in the 2000s than Dre.

I also had no idea Eminem wrote "Forgot About Dre" until I read the blurb on the P2k list.

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:27 (sixteen years ago)

I was confused by that info too. I would assume he meant that Em wrote HIS portion. He's written worse than "If y'all don't like me BLOW me," but nothing so trite.

post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:29 (sixteen years ago)

ha, totally blanked on "Stan," that will probably be higher

some dude, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:35 (sixteen years ago)

"Heartbeats" will probably be top 20. Please god not in Jose Gonzalez form though

Number None, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:38 (sixteen years ago)

Heartbeats will certainly be top 20. no fucking doubt there.

some new thoughts:
- i am SOOOOO glad i stopped reading p4k in 2004.
- i am blissfully unaware of what most of these 'indie' tracks sound like.
- alex in mainhattan, i've actually talked about you to friends of mine irl. and they're all like, "anyone who says things like that about amnesiac needs a head examination." it isn't just us.
- kshighway, you seem to have the same taste in music that i did when i was a junior/senior in high school. which was eight/seven years ago. not a diss, i just don't understand how these things happen.

I want to know what "Crunk" is. I want you to show me. (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:44 (sixteen years ago)

Good display name.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

I was pleased to see "Forgot About Dre," too, because I thought it was a 1999 song. Single released in 2000, I guess.

jaymc, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

the vague, ominous lyrics of most songs of amnesiac to me describe quite well the insecurity of today's world on a meta level. there is not one interpretation, there are many. we are on shaky ground. nothing is sure after 911 and the financial crisis anymore. not even the states, not even capitalism. we had forgotten about the fragility of the most powerful country and the most powerful economic concept. we were ill. we were amnesiacs. probably most of us still are, actually. maybe this is not the right thread for this discussion. shall we start a new one?

okay my last post on gaydiohead here:
i just don't get you. are you a fucking suburban mom? do you even know what 'meta' means? do you watch too much msnbc? are you a blogger on huffington post? are you secretly paris hilton?

you're not speaking to anything profound. if anything, you're spouting off soundbites from the past 10 years in an obvious way just to stan for a crappy Radiohead album. please stop.

I want to know what "Crunk" is. I want you to show me. (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

would u say that we 'forgot' "forgot about dre"

mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

/sorry

mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)

the table is the table, what do you mean by "i just don't understand how these things happen."?

Also, what do you listen to now? Recommend a few albums to me.

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)

Daniel, i forgot to thank you for it. when i saw yr post, i just sang some Foreigner and was like, 'new display name time.'

I want to know what "Crunk" is. I want you to show me. (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)

hey here's some free advice for everybody--stop posting about how glad you are that you haven't listened to some indie rock.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

^^

can i ox (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

My pleasure. I'm just comforted to know that someone at least occasionally notices my posts.

(xp)

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:56 (sixteen years ago)

(rare as that may be)

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:57 (sixteen years ago)

was not nec. directed at you fwiw

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:57 (sixteen years ago)

oh yr talkin disp names nm

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:57 (sixteen years ago)

was not nec. directed at you fwiw

^^^^^ May become my new display name.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 August 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

Talking about indie rock in a thread dedicated to P4k's end-of-the-decade list. Wow.

^^^^^ May become my new display name. (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

kshighway, i guess that i just don't know anyone your age who listens to that music. and i have a lot of friend who are your age. maybe it's just some weird thing, a mystery.

what i'm listening to right now?

White Rainbow New Clouds
A Broken Consort The Shape Leaves
Luciano Tribute to the Sun
Lemonade
Gemini In and Out of Lights and Fog
Stars of the Lid
a lot of Ron Trent

so a mixture of more ambient/noisy stuff mixed with house and techno, pretty much. 99% of guitar-driven, rock-influenced music bores the shit out of me at this point.

I want to know what "Crunk" is. I want you to show me. (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

Anyway, FORGOT ABOUT DRE. Shiiiiit. I really hope Detox comes out this year. We've been waiting far too long. I would've loved to see "Still Dre" on the P2k list too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erbraZmuwmI

Btw, what the fuck happened to Nate Dogg? Back in 2000 or so, it seemed like he was in half of the mainstream rap videos I was watching on MTV.

^^^^^ May become my new display name. (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks, table! I'm going to check out some of that stuff.

^^^^^ May become my new display name. (kshighway), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

kshighway, i highly rec. White Rainbow, Stars of the Lid and A Broken Consort. seems like these could be your sort of thing, esp. the last two.

I want to know what "Crunk" is. I want you to show me. (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)

Y'all don't like this list? BLOW ME.

post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)


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