Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

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I'm kinda curious how they determined this list, since a lot of tracks seem like stand-in votes for the entire album. Like I don't remember "Hounds of Love" being a particularly break-through track on that Futureheads album, and it's a good song, but it's good in a way that a lot of the other songs are good. I'm curious why they decided to include one Futureheads song and picked that one, or whether a few people actually felt that was the definitive Futureheads single. (It seems like this in a couple places -- the Fleet Foxes song is another good example.) And if this is the case, and the track is standing in for the album instead of itself as an independent work, then I think it's fair to ask whether these tracks belong with these other singles.

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:19 (sixteen years ago)

either way this is bound to be the least interesting feature of the whole set.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:19 (sixteen years ago)

I'm curious whether they decided to....

I could just be projecting, btw. I've been guilty of this in the past... trying to find a track to pick for my singles list off an album. I think I've even wiki'd an album I loved to find the track that was a single just so I could vote for it on the singles vote. I'm just not sure, even having done it myself, that it's the best approach.

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:20 (sixteen years ago)

"To Hell With Good Intentions" made the top 100.. I'm already happy.

I don't need to read another paragraph about how "Ignition (Remix)" changed everything.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:21 (sixteen years ago)

Also coming up on Pitchfork's top 50:

Lcd soundsystem - someone great
Burial - Archangel
Hercules & love affair - Blind
The field - a paw in my face
Ratatat - Wildcat
Snoop dog - sensual seduction

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:25 (sixteen years ago)

"Hounds of Love" and "White Winter Hymnal" were the only songs I played from those albums after the hype died down. Hell, WWH is the only song I remember really liking from the Fleet Foxes album; I thought the album was a total lemon at first, instead of one with worth just one good squeeze. I also would list HoL as one of my favorite songs from this decade.

But can someone take a brief moment to explain to me why Outkast decided to stop making music often?

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:25 (sixteen years ago)

Then I stand corrected!

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:27 (sixteen years ago)

... although have sensual seduction or perhaps drop it's like its hot, wildcat or crimewave made it already on the list? I wouldn't have thought they would rank this high but I don't see why they would leave them out.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:28 (sixteen years ago)

Moka, if you keep playing Pitchfork Fan Fiction I'm gonna give you a "top 51"

chutesy ladders (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:29 (sixteen years ago)

I actually think pitchfork has been so successful, in part, because they're able to get such a diverse cast to bring a similar style and aesthetic to the site. The site's tone is very consistent.

They're successful because they have an editorial staff that can pare down the diverse cast's opinions into a cohesive narrative. If more places would do this, they'd still be around.

chutesy ladders (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:30 (sixteen years ago)

what's a top 51? Either way, not playing fan fiction, just want to know how many of my dull and obvious predictions turn out right.

I'm really bummed they completely forgot about Lali Puna and Stereolab.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:31 (sixteen years ago)

oh no not lali puna

chutesy ladders (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:33 (sixteen years ago)

Looking forward to Franz Ferdinand's "Take Me Out" being stretch into the "the song that epitomized the decade." I doubt it'll finish top ten, though.

It's been really weird reading this list and having 2000-2004 be so divorced from the present. I feel like adding to:

Bands/Pop stars that are quickly becoming relics of the earlier part of this decade?

They're successful because they have an editorial staff that can pare down the diverse cast's opinions into a cohesive narrative. If more places would do this, they'd still be around.

I think you're probably OTM about this.

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:35 (sixteen years ago)

well Lali Puna are pitchfork-friendly and faking the books, bi-pet or nin-com-pop are all great songs. I thought they would go for their cover of 'together in electric dreams'.

Also... Invisible conga people's "cable dazed" is just too damn good to be ommited and I think it placed quite high on their 2008 list... too lazy to check right now tho.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:37 (sixteen years ago)

Has sebastien tellier already made an appearance?

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:39 (sixteen years ago)

Did "Hot in Herre" place? (There are still a bunch of pages I can't read cause they freeze my browser.)

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:39 (sixteen years ago)

Snoop dog - sensual seduction

lol yeah right, I heard this on the radio for no more than a week

(ƨnɘhqɘϯƧ ƨ1ϯɿuƆ) | HI!!!!! | (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:41 (sixteen years ago)

"snoop dog"

(ƨnɘhqɘϯƧ ƨ1ϯɿuƆ) | HI!!!!! | (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:41 (sixteen years ago)

"It Wasn't Me"?

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:43 (sixteen years ago)

Don't think "Hot in Herre" has placed. The remaining fifty will be filled with all of the usual suspects but I'm looking forward to songs we ALL haven't heard before a thousand times before. No doubt a few will show amongst the LCD Soundsystems, Crazy in Loves and Kid A tracks.

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:44 (sixteen years ago)

I dont think the amount of time you heard it on the radio will influence the decision of it's placement as the whole list has proven to be pretty random But 'drop it like its hot' is a much better candidate, it's true.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:44 (sixteen years ago)

i think the snoop dogg one was a "joke"

geir ham, go (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:45 (sixteen years ago)

Wow I completely forgot about "it wasn't me" appearing on this decade... I think I was 14 when it came out.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:46 (sixteen years ago)

NO it's not a joke! Snoop dogg is important.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:47 (sixteen years ago)

will "What You Know" be on here

(ƨnɘhqɘϯƧ ƨ1ϯɿuƆ) | HI!!!!! | (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:52 (sixteen years ago)

Is "10AM Automatic" a dark horse for the top 50?

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:54 (sixteen years ago)

there's no reason for "Island in the Sun" to place over "Hashpipe" as the Weezer song.

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:55 (sixteen years ago)

"Since U been gone" will show up on there. So will 'How you remind me'. 'St Anger' will be the unexpected song.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:56 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=71&threadid=70508

^^def time for a revive imo

geir ham, go (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:56 (sixteen years ago)

Has Ween been shafted? I think they have. An embarrassment of riches.

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:58 (sixteen years ago)

You're getting old Jordan. You're not fun anymore.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:58 (sixteen years ago)

Vanessa Carlton's "Thousand Miles" will top "All My Friends" in a stunner.

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 07:59 (sixteen years ago)

And if anything you should be suggest banned for even thinking snoop dogg is not important.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:01 (sixteen years ago)

Moka, you don't really believe This Is How You Remind Me and Saint Anger are both going to place, do you?

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:13 (sixteen years ago)

lol surprise #1: "Down with the Sickness"

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:15 (sixteen years ago)

HoJL gonna swoop into the top 20 or so I'm thinking.

pastor prayer zoo (Clay), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:15 (sixteen years ago)

No, Mordy I jokes. I dont. I hope 'since u been gone' doesn't either. I've never understood why that song gets a free pass from hipster zines and blogs.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:31 (sixteen years ago)

me either & i think we should talk about it

geir ham, go (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:33 (sixteen years ago)

I'm kinda curious how they determined this list, since a lot of tracks seem like stand-in votes for the entire album. Like I don't remember "Hounds of Love" being a particularly break-through track on that Futureheads album, and it's a good song, but it's good in a way that a lot of the other songs are good. I'm curious why they decided to include one Futureheads song and picked that one, or whether a few people actually felt that was the definitive Futureheads single. (It seems like this in a couple places -- the Fleet Foxes song is another good example.) And if this is the case, and the track is standing in for the album instead of itself as an independent work, then I think it's fair to ask whether these tracks belong with these other singles.

― Mordy, Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:19 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was thinking this too. def the case for ghost 'tracks' like "Shakey Dog" & "Nutmeg". & picking nutmeg of cherchez laghost, which was a bigger club single, is even more random (im assuming cherchez probably wont place). It kind of annoys me bcuz there are SOOOO many rap songs from iffy albums that deserve/earned attention that will be ignored in favor of tracks from LPs that will be def represented on the albums list.

imo g-unit 'wanna get to know you' is better than half the rap singles on this list.

im also SUPERsurprised at how low "Stay Fly" placed ... behind a kanye album track??? super random

butthurt (deej), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:40 (sixteen years ago)

picking nutmeg OVER cherchez la ghost, i mean

butthurt (deej), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:40 (sixteen years ago)

White Winter Hymnal was definitely a single, or at least it had a video. Hounds of Love as well, and that still gets played at UK 'indie' nights. I presume a lot of these were singles, or at least had videos. The bizarre thing is the tracks off Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, which as far as I know weren't singles at all.

Anyways, it's a list and therefore pretty arbitrary, but still good fun for the unemployed saddos out there like me.

Updated Spotify list (now 342/450)

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:41 (sixteen years ago)

I think 'since u been gone' gets a free pass because it epitomizes reality shows such as american idol which saw their rise and demise in the 00's and also it's a relevant piece of memorabilia from that short period where chick rock dominated the airwaves It works as a very important piece to define mediatic history in this decade.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:42 (sixteen years ago)

What do you think Jordan?

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:42 (sixteen years ago)

it gets a 'free pass' bcuz everyone loved it and its awesome

butthurt (deej), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:42 (sixteen years ago)

Yes you're right everyone loved it. Its an awesome awesome song. My eyes have been opened.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:48 (sixteen years ago)

I will go now and reflect upon this.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:49 (sixteen years ago)

I like Kelly Clarkson, idk. Also, I think American Idol is still pretty popular?

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 08:51 (sixteen years ago)

Only thing that I'd like to see more on this list is some r&b. i may be wrong but i don't remember seeing any ne-yo, dream, rihanna (although umbrella will obv. make it) etc. etc. etc. just 1 destinys child song and one beyonce song. They never really covered it though, so I knew it would be unlikely to see any on the list other than the biggest singles.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:20 (sixteen years ago)

there are couple of Destiny's Child songs so far, and I expect at least one more. Also, Beyonce's Irreplaceable, and Crazy in Love must place at some point. I know Usher's Yeah! is on it, and I wouldn't be surprised to see another one. Ne-Yo's 'Closer' wouldn't be a shocker.

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:46 (sixteen years ago)

I did an Aaliyah review Samuel did you not notice :-(

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:52 (sixteen years ago)


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