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oh and these are mostly chronological (side order is chronological by band).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

also, album versions unless otherwise noted (i think!)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Nicely done, you supergenius. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

spencer, is ceremony on substance from the original factory 7"? if not i have some an mp3 to send you.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

ah, i answered my own question upthread:

scott said about 15 months ago:
Ceremony (the 7" is much better than the version on Substance)
so so true... sorry, so late. just wanted a check in the tally column.

-- gygax! (gygax0r@...), September 26th, 2002 8:05 PM.

IMHO, the finest thing they ever did. i have a pristine rip if you're interested.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

is the original the one with the gold sleeve?

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I think people REALLY need to reconsider "Slave" and the Revenge EP.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 November 2003 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

esoj = this

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

bingo

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 03:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i think mine is more bronze. i bought it when it came out though. is it the same? (uk/us pressings maybe? mine is def uk)

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 7 November 2003 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks gygax, I actually have that 7" and enjoy it. I like the Substance one better as it fits in with the rest of the pristine-ness of the tracks on that disc. I really like that version from Substance and the one on the Taras Schevchenko (sp?) video.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)

The Ceremony versions are here :

7": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [gold sleeve]

4:34 Ceremony
4:35 In A Lonely Place

12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [green sleeve]

4:34 Ceremony
6:12 In A Lonely Place

12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [cream/blue sleeve] *

4:22 Ceremony **
6:12 In A Lonely Place

* Matrix indicates Side A as FAC 33 A2. Possibly catalogued as FAC 33T.
** Re-recorded when Gill joined the Band. This is the substance version, I think. Not sure what version is on the box-set. Will check tonight.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 7 November 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

haha ok, mine is the gold one changed colour due to excessive fondling.

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 7 November 2003 08:33 (twenty-two years ago)

pervert!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 09:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: Ceremony. I used to have all three versions listed by Dr. C, and although there may have been a slight difference between the green 12" and the cream&blue one, there was a huge difference between both of these and the gold 7", which begins with an epic guitar discordance totally unlike anything on the more well-known version. (Although it might be the case that the original green 12" was the same as the gold 7", but later ones, such as the one i had, included the cream&blue mix instead)

Also search the 7" of Shame of the Nation (Shame was better than State, but the shorter version of Shame was, I think, the finest of the NO tracks that hardly anyone's heard.)

― scott, Friday, 7 November 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

**Although it might be the case that the original green 12" was the same as the gold 7", but later ones, such as the one i had, included the cream&blue mix instead**

I think that's right - also some import versions might have the *wrong* sleeve.

It's definitely the Gill version on Substance, also on the Palatine box - it's bugging me that I can't remember which one is on Retro.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 7 November 2003 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i've never heard the original :(

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i think i like Xiu Xiu's version better than Joy Division or New Orders!

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm serious! this is a bold controversial statement!

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Galaxie 500's version!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

SPENCER HAVE YOU HEARD XIU XIU'S VERSION OF CEREMONY??!?!?!?!?!?!?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm off to find it now. I don't remember Xiu Xiu's album being especially appealing, but I'll give it a shot, especially since they have great taste!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

it's the first song on the Chapel Of The Chimes EP.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...

destroy: The Peter Saville Show Soundtrack

Not really fair, since it was never intended for proper release.

I'm listening right now, and if I let my guard down a little bit, it's actually rather--no! these melodies are awful! Gah!

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was OK as background music. Otherwise, yeah, it doesn't impress much.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was nice. Chorus-ed bass and expensive synths are never truly dud.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

is this on soulseek?

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. It's about half an hour long.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought this thread was "search and destroy: law and order"

― dean? (deangulberry), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think there should be New Order: Artistic Intent

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Lots of hate here for Republic, I see. People originally trashed "Regret" as a recycling of older material, but it has become classic with the passage of time.

Destroy: "Ruined In A Day", "Spooky", "World", as drab a series of singles as any past-it band have let slide out - and after "Regret", too!

Of these, "World" is the one I found to be saved by a remix. The Perfecto Edit perks this track right up and ended up being used for the video.

― Edward Bax, Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

'Ruined in a day' is awesome though.

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I still don't really like 'Regret'. I was one of those people. My New Order obsessive friend of the time said "What are you on about? It's classic New Order!", but to my ears it still sounds kind of contrived.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The great lost song on Republic is Special. Spooky little chime intro, barney's half whispered vocals, lovely understated chorus in which the mood really matches the sense of loss described in the lyrics, and those Unfinished Sympathy style synth string lines at the end.

If it's not cheating to Search some non New Order tracks, then The title track of Electronic's Twisted Tenderness, the title track of The Other Two's Superhighways and Monaco's What Do You Want From Me are three of the best not-really-new-order new order songs ever.

Here To Stay was a better song than anyone could have ever expected from them at that stage in the game. It pisses all over anything from Get Ready, and that wasn't even a bad album.

Destroy: Fine Time. It almost ruins Technique. It's the only NO song I don't like.

― JimD (JimD), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, except for Confusion.

― JimD (JimD), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

There are only two bad songs on Republic--"Everyone Everywhere" and "Chemical".

Everything else is fabulous.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I've bought and sold Republic twice. I won't buy it again.

― Bimble (bimble), Monday, 25 October 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The last one that came out, I think a few years ago, was really fucking rad.

― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Monday, 25 October 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm getting the shakes looking over this thread and reading about what some people want to destroy.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 25 October 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, except for Confusion.

but the confusion instrumental is amazing and great!

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 25 October 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

NME has an update on the NO/Gwen Stefani track.. I cant tell whether I'll love it/hate it or whether it will cause the universe to collapse upon itself:

GETTING ALONG FAMOUSLY

GWEN STEFANI has roped in NEW ORDER and ANDRE 3000 for her long-awaited solo album.

NME.COM has heard ‘Love Angel Music Baby’ (LAMB), which is released on November 22 through Interscope, and the record sees the No Doubt singer united with a host of famous friends.

New Order’s Bernard Sumner and Peter Hook – who are hard at work on their own follow-up to 2001's ‘Get Ready’ – provide guitar and bass on the track ‘Real Thing’, which was co-written by Linda Perry (Christina Aguilera / Pink) and produced by Nellee Hooper (Bjork / Massive Attack).

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

when i worked in a 2nd hand record shop a few years ago there were always lots and lots of unwanted copies of Republic.

― Louie Strychnine, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

:-0

― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

search: temptation (bliss!)

destroy: fine time (i just can't stand this track. it really isn't funny!)

― Louie Strychnine, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, 'Fine Time' is the only mistep on a godly album, thus making it human.

― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"Fine Time" is brilliant, you pagans.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Fine Time" is the best song on _Technique_ that isn't "Dream Attack".

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be 'Vanishing point', Dan...

― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Vanishing Point" is the best song that isn't "Dream Attack", "Fine Time" or "Guilty Partner".

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

'Fine Time' is fucking amazing.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

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