Hüsker Dü - Land Speed Record/Everything Falls Apart/Zen Arcade vs Descendents - Milo Goes To College/I Don't Want To Grow Up/Enjoy

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i mean i listen to TONS of 80s music. tons. but not this stuff.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2024 15:50 (one year ago)

and like i said on that other poll, i have never listened to a minutemen album other than project: mersh. they weren't my bag. i loved milo goes to college when i was a kid but i remember buying Enjoy when it came out and listening to it once.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2024 15:51 (one year ago)

i could live with just land speed record/sister/evol/up on the sun/i against i/born too late/zen arcade as far as sst goes. and i don't even really need born too late i just like that song. that's 7 albums out of 5000 albums.

i used to think it might be fun to start a listening thread for the 4,986 sst albums that nobody listens to. there are so many that you have never heard! so many! but it might just end up being a slog.

i kinda just think of happy nightmare baby as a rough trade album. it doesn't feel like an sst album.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:06 (one year ago)

last sst i listened to was an always august record that wasnt very good at all. would still probably enjoy angst, slovenly, tar babies, universal congress of, that roger miller record, maybe even das damen? will always love huskers, minutemen, meat puppets, first couple of firehose records too, but ive listened to those ones a million times and there a million other records out there that ive never heard at all so, yeah keep moving on imo

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:08 (one year ago)

i was always more of a homestead/touch & go person anyway.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:22 (one year ago)

My entrance to this stuff was Minor Threat, which I still really love.

calstars, Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:39 (one year ago)

cannot remember the last time i listened to any touch & go, but i did listen to nice strong arm's 'stress city' last week (and it was great) xp

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:39 (one year ago)

Yeah all the albums that never get listened to / will get to tomorrow. There’s just landfills of the stuff. And some of it will be great and surprising. That’s why the threads like the Tom Petty track by track listening party are so baffling to me. Like sure he’s fine. But that’s what you’re gonna spend your time listening to?

calstars, Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:41 (one year ago)

i've never stopped listening to minor threat. i don't think i ever will.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:43 (one year ago)

its only one tom petty song a day! takes like 3 to 5 minutes.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:43 (one year ago)

"Turn On the News" has always come off to me like a parody of a rousing rock 'n' roll protest song.

Yes, your punk rock call-to-awareness anthem should probably not sound like a second-rate attempt at "Calling Dr. Love".
I'm much more of a Warehouse person myself, though I especially like the opening song (which basically encapsulates the theme of the whole album) and "Pink Turns to Blue".

I've only heard the Descendants compilation Somery: "Silly Girl" and "Good Good Things" from I Don't Want To Grow Up are pretty good pop-punk that could have actually made it to radio in the 90s.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:46 (one year ago)

I've never stopped listening to all these bands/albums that I like. I still made time for new stuff too though

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:47 (one year ago)

"like a second-rate attempt at "Calling Dr. Love"."

its way better than calling dr. love! but i hate kiss. i don't care about the lyrics of turn on the news. who cares about lyrics? those guitars rule!

scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:50 (one year ago)

the solo at the end is awesome as is the chugga chugga part

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Sunday, 22 September 2024 16:58 (one year ago)

I went through the SST catalogue on Discogs after the last poll and figured out I owned, at one time or another, around 125 SST albums. Also about 15-20 singles INCLUDING the Treacherous Jaywalkers cover of "La Isla Bonita", featuring Sylvia Juncosa on lead guitar. You could pick all this shit up for about a quid in the London bargain bins.

I had the complete SST catalogues of:
Always August
Alter Natives
October Faction
Paper Bag: Improvisational Music Co.
Das Damen
Lawndale
Divine Horsemen
Saccharine Trust
Bazooka
Gone
Henry Kaiser
Cruel Frederick
Brian Ritchie
Trotsky Icepick
Elliott Sharp
SWA

Plus some good stuff too.

jam up the pump (Matt #2), Sunday, 22 September 2024 17:38 (one year ago)

I forgot Universal Congress Of and Pell Mell

jam up the pump (Matt #2), Sunday, 22 September 2024 17:47 (one year ago)

Elliott Sharp did so much stuff on SST when Ginn got into him in the mid-late ’80s. He wrote in the back of The Wire a couple of years ago that Greg even offered to buy his label zOar (thankfully that never progressed).

The Semantics record, Bone of Contention, is really good; I missed my chance to ask Ned Rothenberg about it when I saw him perform at the NCH in late 2019.

I’ve been picking up what I can of the catalogue, or at least the stuff I know will appeal to me. Still some mint-condition stuff available for not-silly prices.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 22 September 2024 18:41 (one year ago)

Turn on the News is awesome I’ll fight anyone who says so. Also seconding the last three songs of the album are great sequence, ending the album on a positive but enigmatic note.

O 'Tis Redding (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 22 September 2024 20:02 (one year ago)

Who says that TOTN is NOT awesome

O 'Tis Redding (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 22 September 2024 20:02 (one year ago)

losers

go polish your nose ring (sleeve), Sunday, 22 September 2024 20:05 (one year ago)

Dü no contest and I have skimmed thread but why no love for Metal Circus? Between ZA and EFA and absolutely stellar imo even if it’s short.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Sunday, 22 September 2024 21:55 (one year ago)

Was just about to post that too! I listen to Metal Circus more than any of these other albums.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 22 September 2024 22:01 (one year ago)

i used to think it might be fun to start a listening thread for the 4,986 sst albums that nobody listens to. there are so many that you have never heard! so many! but it might just end up being a slog.


Already covered for you: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-dont-know-mojack/id1268343240
The episodes with the guests are best (esp recommend the episodes with Byron Coley and Chris D)

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 22 September 2024 22:03 (one year ago)

wow! crazy.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2024 22:12 (one year ago)

listening to the Dü now and all hail Greg Norton. SST had the best bass

llurk, Monday, 23 September 2024 00:12 (one year ago)

"Turn On The News" was the very first song I played on my once-revered college radio show.

Willing to FP over this fwiw.

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Monday, 23 September 2024 02:22 (one year ago)

That song completely rules and I feel the same way.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2024 02:58 (one year ago)

I've always loved it.

Sure, it's got Freebird chords and someone doing monkey sounds, but what else was going to start off Side 4? Take that, Corndogs!

pplains, Monday, 23 September 2024 03:02 (one year ago)

"Turn On The News" was the very first song I played on my once-revered college radio show.

Willing to FP over this fwiw.

― Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta),

That's the spirit.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Monday, 23 September 2024 10:48 (one year ago)

I think Good Good Things about The Descendents, but every time I've tried to get into Husker Du, it Makes No Sense At All.

peace, man, Monday, 23 September 2024 14:47 (one year ago)

OK I just played Turn On The News for the first time in ages and it's still a harmless stompalong with stupid lyrics, nothing wrong with that though I guess as this is a description of the Ramones entire career. Love the way the rhythm guitar goes totally out of tune by about the halfway point of the song and they didn't bother with a retake.

it's beginning-to-end stuff (Matt #2), Monday, 23 September 2024 15:54 (one year ago)

Let me replace 'Ramones' with 'Sammy Hagar' in the previous post

it's beginning-to-end stuff (Matt #2), Monday, 23 September 2024 16:10 (one year ago)

The lyrics to "Turn On the News" vs. the lyrics of Van Halen's "Right Now"

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 23 September 2024 16:11 (one year ago)

Y’all I don’t honestly think the lyrics are bad. I’m deeply familiar with the song and genuinely find it exhilarating. How can you not feel the chug??

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2024 16:29 (one year ago)

I feel the same way about It’s Not Funny Anymore.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2024 16:31 (one year ago)

It’s not funny and all of Metal Circus is godlike. The soundtrack to my late teens.

O 'Tis Redding (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 September 2024 16:37 (one year ago)

Fun fact everyone swapped instruments on Turn On the News

O 'Tis Redding (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 September 2024 16:38 (one year ago)

Husker Du's "Turn On the News" vs. The Beach Boys' "Student Demonstration Time"

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 23 September 2024 18:15 (one year ago)

All this uptight pushing and posting is keeping us away from what we're loving.

And what we're loving, of course, is "Turn On the News" by Hüsker Dü.

pplains, Monday, 23 September 2024 20:09 (one year ago)

Next ilx covers project should be Zen Arcade and everyone gets to send in a chorus shout for Turn On The News

it's beginning-to-end stuff (Matt #2), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:37 (one year ago)

It’s 40 this year no?

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2024 20:50 (one year ago)

Yeah -- wow, didn't know this, Wiki says ZA and Double Nickels were released the same day, 7/3/84

WmC, Monday, 23 September 2024 20:56 (one year ago)

Grillin' dogs the next day, going "whaddya mean this ain't no picnic?"

pplains, Monday, 23 September 2024 23:13 (one year ago)

I feel like we could make a pretty good short story out of the Zen/Double Nickels song titles if we tried

go polish your nose ring (sleeve), Monday, 23 September 2024 23:25 (one year ago)

Something I learned today, Jesus and tequila. It's expected, I'm gone. It's not funny anymore. Do you want new wave or do you want the truth? I'm never talking to you again.

go polish your nose ring (sleeve), Monday, 23 September 2024 23:27 (one year ago)

What do I want?
Political song for Michael Jackson to sing.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2024 23:36 (one year ago)

Guess that’s the wrong album sorry whoops

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 00:36 (one year ago)

Guess that’s the wrong album sorry whoops

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 00:36 (one year ago)

Guess that’s the wrong album sorry whoops

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 00:36 (one year ago)

Wrong album woops

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 00:37 (one year ago)

Sorry for hiccup

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 12:59 (one year ago)

Unsure if Catcher In the Rye or Trouble Boys is the better book

Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 13:00 (one year ago)

Only one of them features people setting piles of money on fire

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 13:13 (one year ago)

xyzzzz, maybe just listen to a playlist of the ballads? "Answering Machine," "Within Your Reach," "Androgynous," "Here Comes a Regular," "Unsatisfied," "Skyway," "Sixteen Blue," and then maybe a second playlist of defiant anthems, like "Bastards of Young," "Left of the Dial," "I Will Dare," "Alex Chilton" ...

Dunno your nationality, tbh. The Replacements are among the most American bands of all time (along with the Minutemen, CCR ...), and iirc over the years a lot of the "I don't get it" comments I've encountered have come from elsewhere.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 13:33 (one year ago)

or watch the 1981 7th Street Entry show that's up on Youtube, for the early raw genius.

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 13:40 (one year ago)

Well I love Minuteman, Du, some Black Flag and like CCR too (though only heard some of their songs), despite not listening to them till my late teens/early 20s. I like The Smiths despite growing up in South America lol so don't think its a nationality issue. But it might be an age thing.

Replacements sounded a bit like REM at times(?) and I like REM a lot. Anyway it was only one listen so I'll try a few more xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 13:45 (one year ago)

I am from the US and have never ever gotten the Replacements, aside from "Stink" which I do like

go polish your nose ring (sleeve), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 14:32 (one year ago)

my ultimate conclusion is that it helps to encounter them when you are 14-16 years old
after that ymmv

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 14:33 (one year ago)

I agree w/that for sure

go polish your nose ring (sleeve), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 14:44 (one year ago)

agree with that generally, but seeing them live on that last reunion tour made me aware that fundamentally they have a catalog of great songs that connect with an audience of diverse ages, so not just a "you had to be there" thing.

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 14:51 (one year ago)

i don't think you "had to be there" at all -- i wasn't there. it helps to be young when you discover them. it doesn't matter when you're young, so long as you can access those fleeting young person feelings.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 14:53 (one year ago)

I heard them for the first time c. "Don't Tell a Soul" (when I was in 8th grade, maybe?) and the only impact that had is that I like that album as much as most of their albums.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 14:57 (one year ago)

i feel so dumb for missing them on their reuinion tour

a (waterface), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 15:02 (one year ago)

JIC me too, I was 14 and a 9th grader

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 15:06 (one year ago)

dressin sharp and feelin dull

a (waterface), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 15:07 (one year ago)

I literally took that entire album to heart.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 15:11 (one year ago)

I think around the same time I bought the "Say Anything ..." soundtrack. Why? I have no idea, it's not like (from memory) there is anything that prominent in the movie besides "In Your Eyes," and I'm pretty sure I had "So" already. But you get the Fishbone rarity "Skankin' to the Beat" (maybe that was why I bought it?), a mediocre Cheap Trick song ("You Want It"), a great Chili Peppers song ("Taste the Pain," maybe one of their few good actual *songs* imo, certainly at that point), Depeche Mode's "Stripped" (live, iirc?), but also "Within Your Reach." I think, as with "Don't Tell a Soul," it may have been a cassette cut-out.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 15:35 (one year ago)

I forgot that Within Your Reach is in Say Anything - really good use of it iirc

Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 15:59 (one year ago)

I also had that soundtrack bitd. Can’t even fathom listening to it now as I do not wish for meltdown rn or ever tbh.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 16:09 (one year ago)

MISSSTER WHIRRRrrLLLYYYY....
https://i.imgur.com/MvN3UOv.png

pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 18:56 (one year ago)


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