Weezer -- Classic or Dud?

don't get me wrong, if you forced me to sit through a whole album i'd pick one of the 90s one, but as a singles band i think their batting average has been pretty steady

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S-lhxaecpw

The first album does seem more "organic" in the sense that any pop-formula expression seems unconscious rather than drawn from a notebook, dungeon-master die-rolling scheme. Is pinkerton when the notebook idea started?

Its cos Matt Sharp left.

Some internet wise guy should write some of the "missing pages" from this notebook and put them online ala The Michael Bay screenplay for the Dark Knight. Would read!

Okay so....a bunch of thoughts I'm having while watching some Weezer AOL Sessions youtube clips (old & new):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95sTh4mxAys

Okay, why is the drummer playing bass now and who is this new drummer guy? Also those quirky handclaps WTF. Biggest WTF in the world for the Kenny G guest solo which is my favorite part of an otherwise pretty dull song. I like how Rivers is jumping and hyping it up like it was a guitar solo. I think after the "Pork and Beans" (which I actually liked), this new direction is to throw a million 'viral' ideas against the wall and see what sticks. I mean, you have Kenny G, that horrible "Raditude" title and album artwork, the Lil Jon collab, etc. Can't say it's a bad strategy though because every review I've read of the album has been dismal, and all the ridiculousness is the only reason I've just listened to "I'm Your Daddy" by Weezer in 2009.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Av1kuh8EBY

Rivers's costume here makes me crack up; he looks like a little kid that found his dad's suit. Sounds to me like at least some of these vocals are auto-tuned. WOW GUYS THE 80S ARE BACK! Look at these Moogs. Kind of makes me think of the Rentals or something. What would they think of this? The rapping is....well whatever. With "We Are All On Drugs" you may have thought the lyrical content had bottomed out but a chorus of "I can't stop partying partying"....I don't know, I think Rivers Cuomo really is on a mission to just crank out stupid simple pop songs like a scientist or a factory worker. Soft verse/loud chorus. Spacey 'retro' part. Guest star rapper. All the elements are there. If he was a little more shy he would be a producer for Universal Music Group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv5Tnp5KzD8

Okay, this is weird but the guitarist is singing "Why Bother" and not doing too bad a job but not too good a job either. It took me a minute to realize that Rivers Cuomo was playing drums wearing a beret and a silly mustache. LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztvJdAIGk54

"Butterfly" sung by Rivers solo with a harp, really beautifully done too. Think about those lyrics "I told you I would return by I ain't never coming back". Is he singing to all the 1st gen Weezer fans? Someone print a list of best tracks from the post-Pinkerton years I need a compilation...

lol wonder if brian bell (who has some serious douche vibes) changed "i better keep whackin" to "you better start packin" out of embarrassment or cuz krusty the klown told him to

Was the riff from "Hash Pipe" taken from Hall and Oates' "Family Man" (towards the end of the song)? I always thought it sounded like the Munsters theme but Hall and Oates seem to be the more obvious theft victims for Rivers.

hash pipe riff is a note for note rip off of the song "he shot himself up" by The Shods.

Listening now - you seem to be right.

Hmm, according to wiki a member of The Shods played in a side-project band with Rivers, so maybe this is intentional?

Someone print a list of best tracks from the post-Pinkerton years I need a compilation...

Do you mean when they were working on the unreleased Pinkerton follow-up, leading up to the release of Green Album? Or do you mean everything from 1997 to present?

http://www.weezersnuggie.com/

are there bootlegs of the unreleased Pinkerton follow-up?

They're cute, though.

man does the first record kick ass

somebody should have murdered Rivers after the first two

What dude I know you did not just diss the Green Album.

I only really dig about 5 Weezer songs: Buddy Holly, Jamie, Suzanne, Say it Ain't So, and The Sweater Song.
I just noticed those are all 94-95 (wiki). (maybe I should listen to their first album for once)
I own the Green Album but I never got into it. I don't think it sucks though

oops typo. I own Pinkerton

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someone asked me to d/l "say it ain't so" for them. i never liked weezer, was indifferent to buddy holly, thought sweater song was lazy, etc.

but this song is weirdly compelling. now i sort of hate myself for maybe liking it. am i living out the whole weezer vibe? were they built upon confused self-loathing?

the subconscious power of the p4k list right there

hah!

somebody should have murdered Rivers after the first two birth

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These guys are the "Windows 95 bonus file" guys in my mind.

i also d/l'ed a 311 song for weezer person that i'm ashamed to talk about here. who said guilty pleasures no longer exist? i've done some bad things.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnELkrxsXiw

that is pretty fuckin special

hahaha no idea if yr kiddin or not but Rivers is the man

I mean

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xpost Lots of kids said the same thing back in high school iirc.. "Sweater Song" sucks, "Buddy Holly" is kinda good, "SIAS" is fucking awesome.

I don't completely agree.. I enjoy all 3 songs. But just sayin, I recall lots of people agreeing.

Unholy moly.
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Who is your arch rival?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaaHevyxvvA

AND LIKE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, STATE FARM IS THERE!!!

For some reason every single band in the Green Bay area covers "Say It Ain't So"; I even know how to play the thing and I'm not really a fan. It's kind of like a secret handshake at the local shows here, "Say It Ain't So" always makes an appearance unless it's like a metal show or something. That song is definitely classic. I can't even say what's so compelling about it. I absolutely hated that riff when Asher Roth ripped it off.

For some reason every single band in the Green Bay area USA covers "Say It Ain't So"

Packers super bowl champs = we're all green bay now

ugh this guy should be shot

is it me or is this the best song he's written in like 10 years?

@Kari_Mil I believe the number one source of the spiritual power on Pinkerton was my leg procedure.
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Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal
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My wife rules for wearing leg warmers to bed.
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well, ahoy: http://www.theweezercruise.com/

There's actually a decent lineup joining them:

Coming along with us are special guests Dinosaur Jr, as well as Sebadoh, Gene Ween and Dave Dreiwitz, Wavves, The Antlers, Yuck, Free Energy, Boom Bip, J Mascis (solo acoustic), Lou Barlow, Keepaway, Ozma, The Nervous Wreckords, The Knocks, Sleeper Agent and Yacht Rock Revue.

Why can't they just throw together a festival like a normal band?

aw, I remember how excited me and my pals were when we spotted Barlow's name on the map in the Pinkerton art.