Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

did you guys finish talking about Radiohead while I was off drinking last night

i'm glad anthony declared we could move on 10 minutes after people stopped posting about it

like i said before, the Radiohead talk was just a jump start, we'll come back to them when they occupy the top 5 of both lists

stfu and eat some crow for once

did you guys finish talking about Radiohead while I was off drinking last night

I did the exact same thing and now look at this thread: it's full of crows and shit.

200 - 111 are really good .. the first 9 pages.
- I didn't know "Get By" had a remix.. I've heard the original version 100 times but never once heard this Mos Def Jay-Z thing.
- A lot of these album track choices do seem kinda random from time to time, but the Fugazi choice is tremendous. I don't have my hopes up for it, but seeing another Argument track in the top 100 would be gratifying.
- "The Middle" is fine I guess.. "Bleed American" is such a great song tho.. always overlooked.
- Party hard.

hey monday night drinkers: what do u think of testosterone in music?

balls

I heard they mix musical testosterone in jaeger.

i knew "Get By" had a remix, but it isn't very good, and its inclusion instead of the original is the same crap we were complaining about upthread. but yeah "The Middle" is by far my least favorite of the 4 singles off that JEW album.

would "sweetness" have charted higher on a stylus list? we will never know.

i kinda love the mix of big pop hits and indie stuff i'd never imagine actually making someone's canon. Like "In Da Club" being one spot behind a Cat Power album opener i couldn't even remember. it's educational!

Currently my favorite thing about Amnesiac is asking people about the album by over enunciating its title 3 or 4 times in a row like Tom Green would do. "You know that album Amnesiac? AmNEsiac? AmNEESHiac?"

Does the remix say "we go through episodes too, like attack of the clones?" or give shout outs to the Beatles? I don't feel like listening to find out.

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i wonder if there's gonna be any green day or blink in the top 100, can't imagine they'll go any further on the butt-rock scale than that

even though a top 500 singles of the 00s with no linkin park is a shonde

hey monday night drinkers: what do u think of testosterone in music?

it's awesome! sometimes

i just wish i had time to READ and digest all this end-of-decade coverage

you'll have the next decade to catch up

did you guys finish talking about Radiohead while I was off drinking last night

I did the exact same thing and now look at this thread: it's full of crows and shit.

me too but i didn't go out. we are a couple of hours ahead of you americans here in europe. the thread was really active last night european time, i thought everybody on it was drunk. i still stand by my words on amnesiac though. anyone interested to continue the discussion? the vague, ominous lyrics of most songs of amnesiac to me describe quite well the insecurity of today's world on a meta level. there is not one interpretation, there are many. we are on shaky ground. nothing is sure after 911 and the financial crisis anymore. not even the states, not even capitalism. we had forgotten about the fragility of the most powerful country and the most powerful economic concept. we were ill. we were amnesiacs. probably most of us still are, actually. maybe this is not the right thread for this discussion. shall we start a new one?

Every time I link away from this thread & click back, Will2K automatically starts up.

Can we talk about the real issue with the P4000 list? Every time I try to look at it, it freezes my computer and Safari needs to be manually shut down. Does anyone have a text list version?

Yes, a text version of this list please.

500. The Big Pink
"Velvet"
[4AD; 2009]

499. N.E.R.D.
"Run to the Sun" [Electronic version]
[Virgin; 2002]

498. Unwound
"Scarlette"
[Kill Rock Stars; 2001]

497. Woods
"Rain On"
[Shrimper/Woodsist; 2009]

496. Akufen
"Deck the House (Herbert's Stop Like This Mix)"
[Force Inc.; 2002]

lol

get more RAM

495. Weezer
"Island in the Sun"
[Universal/Geffen; 2001]

494. Blonde Redhead
"Equus"
[4AD; 2004]

493. Goldfrapp
"Lovely Head"
[Mute; 2000]

492. St. Vincent
"The Strangers"
[4AD; 2009]

Is that Big Pink band a vaginal reference or a The Band reference?

Re: RAM, if a Macbook user can't handle Pitchfork, then who exactly are they writing for?

491. Nickelback
"Rockstar"
[Roadrunner; 2008]

whiney don't u have some twitter reviews to write?

Is Nickelback really 491? Does that mean How You Remind Me is gonna chart in the top 100?

490. Closer Musik
"Departures"
[Kompakt; 2002]

489. Kano
"Reload It"
[679; 2005]

488. Jesu
"Silver"
[Hydra Head; 2006]

487. 65daysofstatic
"Music Is Music As Devices Are Kissing Is Everything"
[Monotreme; 2007]

51-100 is now up...

This list is so lol. It's like pfk is trying to mediate between the brand they've developed and the acknowledgment that the best singles of the decade have all been in hip-hop and R&B. Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, Three 6 Mafia, Hot Chip, Aaliyah, The Knife... and then Animal Collective. The Killers, Kanye West, Junior Boys, and then Arcade Fire. Dr Dre followed immediately by Band of Horses. At least for me, the effect - especially as we move down the list - is that the list undermines all the indie music that pfm has stumped for over the last decade. It seems so silly. Is Band of Horses' "The Funeral" a better single than "Izzo," "A Milli" or even "Mr. Brightside?" I mean, it seems self-evident to me that it is not. Maybe an argument could be made for some of these indie bands placing albums at the top of the album list, but it's just bizarre seeing them next to actual singles.

Anyway, no new criticism, but at least IMHO, the discrepancy between these two things (the indie brand and actual pop singles) has never been as evident as this list, and I can only imagine it'll become moreso as it gets into the top 50. "White Winter Hymnal" versus "Cry Me a River..." It's kinda even weirder because I don't know what constitutes "White Winter Hymnal" as a single, and I know it certainly didn't have any kind of impact on music by contrast.

mordy is right but i like this recent installment way better than the previous ones, some good stuff like "gone" & "takeover" - "flashing lights" has always been overrated by the pfork set imo. it's the best song off his worse album but he has about 20 better ones.

this list is really weird to me because I've been writing about music--all kinds!--essentially this entire decade. And I couldn't hum 75% of the non-rap/R&B songs if you held a gun to my head. I totally feel like the Pfork staff has had a completely different decade than me! Maybe they have!

Don't get me wrong, it's not a criticism. But it's definitely speaking volumes about what happens when a generation/music industry gets attuned to thinking in terms of "tracks" instead of "singles."

i mean, The Germs released singles, so we all know what "Lexicon Devil" sounds like.

Wolf Parade "leaks a track" off an album, so I have no fucking clue what "I'll Believe in Anything" is.

I sent my mother (who grew up and did most of her foundational music listening during the 60s) the PFM 1960s best singles list. She recognized about 95% of the songs in the list (tho she admitted she had to listen to a number of them to remember them, she didn't always recognize them from the title alone). By contrast, I think I only recognize around 70%, or even less, of the music from this current list. Some of that obviously has to do with distance -- those 1960s tracks have had decades to circulate and who knows whether she could've replicate that in 1969. Also, as a billion words have been spilled, music isn't as hegemonic now, and there is so much stuff you can miss if you're not paying attention. But, those things said, I write about music, listen to tons and tons of music, and have been reading PFM for years (along with, on-and-off, Spin, Rollingstone, Blender, The Wire, Paste Magazine, these last couple years Idolator, etc). I wonder if some of the obscurity isn't a tad bit intentional. (Which isn't to say I have any problem with it -- I'm thrilled to learn about music I missed, and I'd feel disappointed if I recognized every track off the list) but it also strikes me as slightly disingenuous.

You might be reading into this a bit too much.. I'm pretty sure one person didn't decide upon the results..