Oasis - Classic or Dud?

No

hell yeah

lol alfred why do you keep dampening the oasis hate here by mentioning other terrible bands

I would accept that despite being incapable of identifying anything The Libertines have ever recorded

Well, that could be a vote in their favour I suppose

I'm forgetting what the UK critical consensus was in 2002, but your American cousins gave the Libs pretty good reviews. Still play the first two albums whereas I sold the first two Oasis things decades ago.

1st Oasis album was great. Like other posters I don't remember a single thing about their music (much like later Oasis)

3) She's Electric. The only Oasis track I can think of which contravenes Simon Price's rightful charge of sluggish sludginess. Young people love it when I play it out, and I associate it with uncomplicated good times.

― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 20:03 (one hour ago)

"Uncomplicated good times" - this is what I love about those early albums

Re: The Libertines

"Cant Stand Me Now" was good but the rest is totally unmemorable

What's the Funkadelic song that "She's Electric" rips off?

"Little by Little" bears a lot of resemblance to REO Speedwagon's "Take it on the run" imo. Which makes sense as he said the first album he ever bought was a REO Speedwagon one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCUbUUKwgu4

lol no

1) it's highly doubtful anyone in Oasis has ever heard a Funkadelic album, 2) No Compute follows a pretty simple 24-bar blues structure, She's Electric does not, 3) She's Electric has a chorus, 4) the real obvious quote is the Beatles nick at the end

sorry, not 24 its just an 8-bar phrase

the chord structures are not the same at all

Also they quote both "While My Guitar Gentle Weeps" and "Wonderboy" by the Kinks in the bridge.

"it's highly doubtful anyone in Oasis has ever heard a Funkadelic album"

I think you might be white there

Columbia and Slide Away are the tops for me, I think the latter is my favorite Liam Gallagher performance.

now you're just making stuff up, No Compute doesn't even have a bridge, it never deviates from the basic progression. (Not that I would put it past Hazel to quote the Beatles)

xxp

oh you meant in She's Electric, I don't really hear those quotes but whatever sure

would rather listen to creed than oasis

i can never follow any uk politics stuff so this is the first time i've felt real sympathy for uk ilxors in a while. for me it'll pretty much be ignoring this thread and skipping past the occasional mention on facebook.

What is the US version of Oasis? Matchbox 20? Collective Soul or something?

None of those acts had Oasis' album and singles success.

Foo Fighters

I seem to recall Chuck Klosterman thought the US Oasis was Skynnrd.

greta van fleet

Black Crowes

if Pearl Jam has broken up instead of touring consistently I would expect the mania would be similar in the US

I think you're right

The other bands mentioned weren't big enough.

Also Alfred otm. I saw a v cute video of Pete today being asked about his views on oasis when was like 17. I can't rememvwr what he said but he quoted u eco.

Thanks tho Omar. Gonna have Shine a light in my head for the next week.

it's highly doubtful anyone in Oasis has ever heard a Funkadelic album

Noel Gallagher on his song, "The Right Stuff".

"That started with a previous project I did with Amorphous Androgynous that’s never come out. It was gonna be a B-side until the song developed over a couple of days when I suddenly thought “this is fucking amazing, we’ve gotta put this on the album” and drafted in a sax player. The guitars remind me a bit of Funkadelic, you know, that Maggot Brain guitar solo. And obviously there’s these discordant Sun Ra jazz things in there, and it’s got a melody and it’s great. I’m glad you like it."

Obviously the guy's a dick but that doesn't necessarily mean that he hasn't listened to some good music every now and then.

it really has to be PJ, because it has to be tied to the 90s, rock's last period of mainstream, wide culture success with a new musical movement, and it has to be tied to the defining movement of that period (grunge here, Britpop there) . and it has to be a band that was huge at the time, and it has to be the most classic rock oriented/dad friendly version of said movement. PJ meets all the same criteria as Oasis.

lol ok well in that case I blame Richard Ashcroft

xp

I mean he's recorded with the Chemical Brothers and Goldie, he's not Rick Parfitt.

and now yes I notice the "I see you and you see me" from "Wonderboy" is similar to the "I'll be you and you'll be me" line in "She's Electric" good call on that one. Still, "No Compute"... I don't hear it.

Thanks tho Omar. Gonna have Shine a light in my head for the next week.

― Benson and the Jets (ENBB)

My fault, sorry, i'm just glad it's not "december"

cokehead musicians can become quite adept at talking pretentious bullshit imo and making highfalutin illusions to what influenced them. the words mean nothing when you measure them next to the garbage music they made

sorry meant allusions

As the entire recorded output of Bobby Gillespie proves only too well.

Rick Parfitt's worked with Scooter! In a sense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0DTm_bWEjs

Do we reckon the phrase "Don't Look Back In Anger" is nicked from John Osborne's play, the film version with Richard Burton, or the Bowie song? Have been assuming the Bowie, but still odd to think of Noel listening to Lodger.

my guess is he internalised these lines and phrases he read from the music press in the 80's and reused them without any context or thought. Not saying this would be bad practise, but just that in this case it sucked shit.

even many Smash Hits reviews were brainy and full of cross cultural references back then. it was a confusing period for Noel.

those first two suede albums and the singles that went with them slay oasis for me. oasis wish! so much better.

They incorrectly quoted Isaac Newton for an album title

>those first two suede albums and the singles that went with them slay oasis for me. oasis wish! so much better.

Yeah with Oasis I can't get over that initial reaction of "really, is THIS what you're all losing your shit over?"

i think you have to be a tosser/geezer/punter or whatever to really get it.

i know a guy where i live who still has that haircut because he is such a fan. so weird.