Oasis - Classic or Dud?

xp sure, of course, but what's the alternative, I just ignore it?

Kulkarni is funny but it felt like flogging the point. Maybe that's just me and podcasts. The tweet does it briefly and better.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 16:36 (forty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah I find that podcast err a bit joyless to listen to personally, regardless of who's on it. It's just a me and podcasts thing.

The guy who hosts that podcast is an old mate of mine from Nottingham days - we still see each other from time to time - and he has a strong moral compass, so that open secret thing above has weirded me out. I've been listening devotedly for years, love it dearly, and it even inspired me to start my own (about which my mate the host has been very supportive).

Most Oasis discourse is flogging the point. Oasis themselves are about flogging the point.

"Let's get flogged."

the best latter-day Def Leppard single

Mike, I will DM you or sth.

Thanks, CAAL.

That Simon Price piece is excellent, BTW. And if you want to hear Kulkarni dishing out another righteous evisceration, this time to The Smiths, it's on the most recent episode of that podcast, all of which is a tribute to Neil; the Smiths rant was actually included at my suggestion, as it happens.

There was a really creepy thing on the Chart Music social media where some lad was joking about pretending to a member of Menswear to get laid, and instead of being weirded out by the implications of uninformed consent they re-posted this lad's comment as if it was "top banter" or whatever, really gave me the ick tbh

(joking about a time that this happened ie he pretended to be in Menswear because it helped him get laid, just to be clear)

My favorite Oasis related memory was back in 1996, when a DJ on the student radio station ran a call-in poll to see who was the better band, Oasis or The Beatles. Naturally the results were something like 61-1 in favor of The Beatles. This was probably 1, 2 in the morning and I decided to call in and pretend I was Liam and started yelling at the DJ about how stupid he and his listeners were. Didn't think my accent was all that great, but he asked me to start the rant over so he could play it on air.

Didn't think my accent was all that great,

Was it better than Daphne's brother in Frasier?

as for Oasis themselves: I was 7 in 1995 and we were very much an Oasis household so how much of my residual tolerance for them is simply nostalgia is hard to disentangle, I like noisy textures but the sneering and the empty lyrics are so devoid of value. I'd love to live in the alternate timeline suggested that if Britpop hadn't happened then we'd have been living in a multicultural musical climate in the UK, but I'm not sure if Oasis were really a cause so much as a symptom. It's amazing to me though that they're so lauded by certain corners when they've released seven albums and only two of them are really taken seriously. It's not like they're going to come out on stage and launch into "The Hindu Times."

xp - arguably, iirc.

It's not like they're going to come out on stage and launch into "The Hindu Times."

― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 18:37 (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hah i wish

perhaps along among ilxors i have wondered which 00s songs will get played. the heathen chemistry singles felt BIG to me at the time, as big as any of the coldplay rush of blood ones.

alone among

"The Importance of Being Idle" is probably the most beloved post-Morning Glory tune

My favorite Oasis related memory was back in 1996, when a DJ on the student radio station ran a call-in poll to see who was the better band, Oasis or The Beatles. Naturally the results were something like 61-1 in favor of The Beatles. This was probably 1, 2 in the morning and I decided to call in and pretend I was Liam and started yelling at the DJ about how stupid he and his listeners were. Didn't think my accent was all that great, but he asked me to start the rant over so he could play it on air.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, August 28, 2024 6:34 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

great story!!!

stand by me or songbird id have said xp

personally id be going dyou know what i mean, i think

DM/(WTS)MG Era - 9 top 40 hits, including 7 top 10s, 2 number ones
After (WTS)MG - 17 top 40 hits, including 16 top 10s, 6 number ones

I feel like 'Stop Crying Your Heart Out' is the only post-90s Oasis track I hear being played anywhere these days, the others all seem to have left no trace, even the ones that were straight in at number 1?

Songbird won't be played because it's about Nicole. Maybe I'm Outta Time or some other lesser Liam song to preserve the democracy.

Being Idle had a long shelf life but it's probably been a good while since I last heard it around. Little by Little is done incessantly by someone at karaoke so I assume that one has kept its legs.

Most of the twentysomethings I know in the music-writing biz seem to love Oasis and also seem to maybe have a totally inaccurate idea of how popular they were in America? One top 40 hit, only one other top 100 hit, a lot of MTV play for a couple of years but basically nothing after Be Here Now's bomb of a release. R.E.M. were objectively far more popular in the states and yet their reputation has receded so much whereas Oasis are treated like one of the biggest bands of all time and not just in one particular country (and maybe its [more recent] former colonies, I dunno what the commonwealth rocks, dude.)

My coworkers partner conducted their first ever TV interview and introduced them at their biggest ever gig so obviously I had to ask her what he thought. No interest and too expensive lol.

A few weeks ago I learnt Oasis were 771 copies away from a US No. 1 album

What beat them?

That left it 770 copies short of the total sold by Sean “Puff Daddy” Combs’ “No Way Out.”

My coworkers partner conducted their first ever TV interview and introduced them at their biggest ever gig so obviously I had to ask her what he thought.

Man, who is this? (Or can it be said?)

In re the 770 thing: yeah that was pure AC/DC effect, Be Here Now did indeed almost get a number one spot out of the gate (and then immediately receded thereafter).

had no idea they lasted until almost 2010, thought they were done before the heyday of the Libertines

That left it 770 copies short of the total sold by Sean “Puff Daddy” Combs’ “No Way Out.”

Oh dear.

I wish Wiki included Oasis' American Mainstream/Modern Rock chart rankings in their singles discography info, because those Hot 100 entries definitely don't tell the whole story about their stateside popularity.

Ned - initials GC but will message you on FB :).

https://www.popradiotop20.com/Modern-Rock/Oasis.htm

Thanks!

There are three Oasis songs which I love, albeit subjectively.

1) Live Forever. In 1995, I took a dodgy pill at Pacha in Ibiza and had a shit night, until right at the end when the cloud lifted and the "good" stuff kicked in. That's when they put on "Live Forever", as people were starting to leave. I had a major moment.

2) Don't Look Back In Anger. My stepmother's name was Sally, and we had a tricky relationship, resolved in later years. When that came on the radio afer she died in 1999, I bawled my eyes out. Cathartic.

3) She's Electric. The only Oasis track I can think of which contravenes Simon Price's rightful charge of sluggish sludginess. Young people love it when I play it out, and I associate it with uncomplicated good times.

Oasis fans seem to really love "Gas Panic!" I doubt Noel even realises it would go down a storm.

the reduction of the working class to boorish racist homophobic stereotypes

it's a good thing pretentious prog's been vilified since 1977!

Uh what's that got to do with anything?

She's Electric

Its a funkadelic ripoff

The Libertines >>>>>>>>>>>> Oasis

No

hell yeah

lol alfred why do you keep dampening the oasis hate here by mentioning other terrible bands

I would accept that despite being incapable of identifying anything The Libertines have ever recorded

Well, that could be a vote in their favour I suppose

I'm forgetting what the UK critical consensus was in 2002, but your American cousins gave the Libs pretty good reviews. Still play the first two albums whereas I sold the first two Oasis things decades ago.

1st Oasis album was great. Like other posters I don't remember a single thing about their music (much like later Oasis)

3) She's Electric. The only Oasis track I can think of which contravenes Simon Price's rightful charge of sluggish sludginess. Young people love it when I play it out, and I associate it with uncomplicated good times.

― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 20:03 (one hour ago)

"Uncomplicated good times" - this is what I love about those early albums

Re: The Libertines

"Cant Stand Me Now" was good but the rest is totally unmemorable

What's the Funkadelic song that "She's Electric" rips off?

"Little by Little" bears a lot of resemblance to REO Speedwagon's "Take it on the run" imo. Which makes sense as he said the first album he ever bought was a REO Speedwagon one.