i kinda feel like when doing lists like this, where you know a key singles artist of the era like Missy is going to be represented more than once, you still have to be selective and include only their very best. i don't think that song's among her very best by a long shot.
ILM disagrees with you!
This Is Not A Poll!: The Missy Elliott Singles Poll.
― it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Monday, 17 August 2009 16:20 (sixteen years ago)
I mean, as soon as any song leaks--even something as benign as Das Racist--blogs fight to stake claim to the "best" remix
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:20 (sixteen years ago)
it's meme economy tactics
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:21 (sixteen years ago)
and i'm not singling out pfork. everyone does this now.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:22 (sixteen years ago)
x(...)post
Also, according to my knowledge + Wikipedia, "Handshake Drugs" was never formally released as a single. Guessing that doesn't matter so much here.
― kshighway, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:22 (sixteen years ago)
i'm glad they used the lego sleeve for the B&S song
― unban dictionary (blueski), Monday, 17 August 2009 16:26 (sixteen years ago)
I really love how you can stream all the embedded songs. "Fake Palindromes!" Yes 2005!
― kshighway, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:26 (sixteen years ago)
spotify playlist: http://bit.ly/vSElp
― unban dictionary (blueski), Monday, 17 August 2009 16:27 (sixteen years ago)
@kshighway: It's probably my favorite song on A Ghost Is Born, fwiw. (Although I did listen to "At Least That's What You Said" the other day because of you -- I'd forgotten how good the guitar solo is.)
― jaymc, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)
Handshake Drugs is my favourite Wilco song period (well, IATTBYH and Poor Places give it a good run) and I'm glad it's here.
― cockles (country matters), Monday, 17 August 2009 16:33 (sixteen years ago)
@jaymc: "Handshake Drugs" is such a good song!
And that's so awesome that you re-listened to ALTWYS and liked the guitar solo. It's one of my favorite songs, ever.
― kshighway, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:40 (sixteen years ago)
seriously I will smack you guys if you keep doing tweet-style referencing of each other
― it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Monday, 17 August 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)
It's THE NOW, man.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)
HAHAHA. @HI DERE: Will comply, sir!
― kshighway, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:50 (sixteen years ago)
I guess including the album version of Handshake Drugs means the live version on the Kicking Television album won't be on the list. That's a shame, because it's a very different song in that live performance. Both versions are good.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 17 August 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)
Daniel, I had come to accept your italicizing of song titles as a personal affectation, but I hadn't realized that you put album titles in roman. I just don't know about that.
― jaymc, Monday, 17 August 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)
haha a couple months ago i saw someone on ilx do a twitter-style reply to someone and was like "please god no please don't let this become standard"
― some dude, Monday, 17 August 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)
I try to be consistent with formatting, but I often forget how I'd done it before and default to whatever I think looks right at the moment. It's one of my many -- many, many -- failings. (xp).
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 17 August 2009 17:15 (sixteen years ago)
Heh, no big deal, I'm a copy editor, so I probably notice these things more than most.
― jaymc, Monday, 17 August 2009 17:19 (sixteen years ago)
u gais are sooo cute :)
― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 August 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)
lol
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 17 August 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)
I like a lot of the things on this list and am intrugied by many of the things I've not heard = it's going to be better than most end of decade lists I'll see. People seem to just be complaining for the sake of complaining.
― fruity gonzalo (a hoy hoy), Monday, 17 August 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)
― it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Monday, August 17, 2009 12:20 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i don't understand how a poll where "Pass That Dutch" got one vote contradicts my view that it's not her best wrok
― some dude, Monday, 17 August 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)
failed mainstreaming of indie music imo
― (ƨnɘhqɘϯƧ ƨ1ϯɿuƆ) | HI!!!!! | (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 17 August 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)
476. Ward 21"Petrol"
nice
― butthurt (deej), Monday, 17 August 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)
222. Three 6 Mafia"Sippin' on Some Syrup"[Loud/Relativity; 2000]
this is way way way too low
― butthurt (deej), Monday, 17 August 2009 18:15 (sixteen years ago)
219. Lil Mama"Lip Gloss"[Zomba; 2007]
i mean i liked this song but three ahead of 'sippin'??
― butthurt (deej), Monday, 17 August 2009 18:16 (sixteen years ago)
thank god it was not four
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 17 August 2009 18:19 (sixteen years ago)
not to be all "placements don't matter w/ any big list" but i think you're better off not really paying attention to those numbers and just asking whether something is on the list at all or not.
― some dude, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)
So, a surprising amount of stuff I like in the top 300, and a surprising amount of stuff I have never and hopefully will never hear. A few notes:
- J0hn D., "Death Metal Band.." got #230 !!! that and "No Children" were the first of your songs i ever heard. i still sing both in the shower all the time.
- ugh, the fact that they picked something from We Are Monster, and "Schrapnell" at that, is incredibly disappointing. Western Store and Rest are about a million times better as albums.
- lol at two Villalobos drops in the top 300.
- WHY ARE THERE NO TRACKS BY LOW? if they don't put something from Things We Lost in the Fire or Trust in the top 200, i will be totally shocked and disappointed.
― nice! he have the balls to say the truth! (the table is the table), Monday, 17 August 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)
yeah let's not do any "NO TRACKS BY ____" posts until the whole thing is up
― some dude, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)
sorry. i just was slightly shocked.
― nice! he have the balls to say the truth! (the table is the table), Monday, 17 August 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)
WHY ARE THERE NO TRACKS BY LOW?Because the list is aesthetically retarded so far.
― Turangalila, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)
"- ugh, the fact that they picked something from We Are Monster, and "Schrapnell" at that, is incredibly disappointing. Western Store and Rest are about a million times better as albums."
... this is not a list of albums...?
― butthurt (deej), Monday, 17 August 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)
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― call all destroyer, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)
deej, i know. but if i'm right, there won't be another Isolee track on the list. and if any track should be on it, i would say "I Owe You" or "Lost".
― nice! he have the balls to say the truth! (the table is the table), Monday, 17 August 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)
Well, sure, I'm going to glance with interest at the ballots of writers I know and like. But the iTunes playlist I make will be Pitchfork's Best of the 2000s, not nabisco.'s Best of the 2000s.― jaymc,
― jaymc,
jaymc is making a playlist about pitchfork's best of the 2000s.
― Moka, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)
who isn't!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)
No Nate Dogg, no credibility.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, I have playlists for Pitchfork's top songs for every year since 2004, Stylus's top songs from 2003 to 2007, Stylus's top 50 of 2000-04, the Pitchfork 500, etc. (Not all are completely filled out, but I usually make an attempt to download the stuff I don't have.)
― jaymc, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)
tbh i will cry foul if there's no "The Next Episode" or "Can't Deny It"
― some dude, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)
I also made Stylus playlists. Makes me really sad they're gone. They should try and reunite the staff for a non paid one time only end of the decade feature.
― Moka, Monday, 17 August 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)
306. Dr. Dre [ft. Kurupt, Snoop Dogg, and Nate Dogg]"The Next Episode"[Aftermath/Interscope; 2000]
― fruity gonzalo (a hoy hoy), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)
That'll teach me to actually look at p4k. Or not.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 August 2009 19:09 (sixteen years ago)
my bad, saw that earlier but forgot it
― some dude, Monday, 17 August 2009 19:10 (sixteen years ago)
I just happened to be reading the list as you started complaining about lack of nate dogg. don't really care that much either way. it's a good list, i can't name a solo nate dogg single, not really deserving a giant bloody thread imo but it's pitchfork and some folks gotta get annoyed at what other folks on the same message board they talk to about music every day make a list about.
― fruity gonzalo (a hoy hoy), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:15 (sixteen years ago)
most people can't name a solo nate dogg single, that's not what he's known for
― some dude, Monday, 17 August 2009 19:18 (sixteen years ago)
Careful what you wish for.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:21 (sixteen years ago)
nate dogg is a feeling
― unban dictionary (blueski), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)
thanking u
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:23 (sixteen years ago)