Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

pitchfork, more like, dont know anything about music fork

right

right guys

but does it bore you, that's the real question.

I know at least 51 ways to make jagger speechless with indignation

pitchfork, more like, pitch-bore-k, because its boring

top fifty does not contain ulver, also suggest ban

damn cant believe the top fifty doesnt contain ulver

way to lose all credibility pitchfork

btw i got an advance copy of the list--#1 song is by mansun louis

so u should be happy

dullver, my mother claims

more like sucks-ver

mansun's 00's output is not exactly stunning...i am speechless with indignation

i was so bored I fell asleep and had the worst nightmare that i was posting on a boring message board where people wouldn't stop talking about how boring things were, and everyone kept screaming "individual writers lists" at the top of their lungs, and max was there making fun of everyone and a pervert was crying about ulver. So glad I woke up!

i hope when the list comes out we can choose the top 200 posts on this thread

how dare you whiney - i am not actually serious abt ulver

You keep dreaming that I was screaming at the top of my lungs about anything.

Fabolous just said, "I'm not that pregnant white girl but Ju-know" #fuckmylife

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, August 17, 2009 11:18 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol i've had that fuckin' line stuck in my head all morning

"Individual lists are more interesting" has become such a cliche, I wonder if people actually believe it. I do like looking at individual writers' lists, especially those of people I know, and it does provide a useful context for the amalgamated list, but is it more interesting? I dunno, a good deal of my fascination with lists like these is in how they solidify canons. Even if we can predict some of the albums that will be in the top 10 or top 20, my overall understanding of what was considered important by the indie world this decade is still kind of inchoate at this point, and I look forward to the final results to get a better bead on it. Plus, even if you're looking at this list from a purely pragmatic standpoint -- as a way to get turned on to stuff you haven't heard -- wouldn't you rather rely on songs or albums that have demonstrated consensus appeal than a vote in the middle of a random writer's ballot?

i agree w/ this, in that i dont really care abt random writer's ballots - i just usually look out for the writers that i already care abt.

i agree w/ this, in that i dont really care abt random writer's ballots - i just usually look out for the writers that i already care abt.

I guess I didn't think I had to spell this out, but this is exactly what I mean.

Well, sure, I'm going to glance with interest at the ballots of writers I know and like. But the iTunes playlist I make will be Pitchfork's Best of the 2000s, not [nabisco] [.]'s Best of the 2000s.

(Haha, I just wanted to see if it still auto-corrected Nabisco's name.)

Well the writer lists are nowhere near as long as the final list, so making playlists from the ones I'm interested in wouldn't be that difficult anyway.

[nabisco] [.]

haha

DUMPLINGS!

whoa it's not only on that particular thread

tracks i am especially happy to see on the list:
N.E.R.D. "Run To The Sun"
Cee-Lo "I'll Be Around"
Madonna "Don't Tell Me"
Freeway "Flipside"
Rich Boy "Throw Some D's"
Ted Leo "Timorous Me"

ones that aren't bad but i'm kinda scratching my head why they bothered to single them out:
The Roots "Don't Feel Right"
Lil Kim "The Jump Off"
Alicia Keys "You Don't Know My Name (Reggae Remix)" <--- over the original!?
Beanie Sigel "Feel It In The Air"
Missy Elliott "Pass That Dutch"
Dinosaur Jr. "Almost Ready"
Outkast "The Whole World"

ok "Pass That Dutch" is straight up bad

rong

I don't hate "Dutch" but it is kind of puzzling to see there.

Alicia Keys "You Don't Know My Name (Reggae Remix)" <--- over the original!?

Maybe the original is higher up. (I feel the same way about Dntel's "This Is the Dream" not being the Superpitcher remix.)

i dunno -- it seems like Pitchfork takes the opposite stance of P&J, in that if there's any minor support for a remix or alternate version of a song, that gets the nod instead of the original

i would make a case for Pass That Dutch. it's faster more intense beat and relentless heavy bass that was just the same note three times gave it something that e.g. Work It doesn't have. Work It is probably better overall but on its own terms ...Dutch is as fun as anything.

i kinda feel like when doing lists like this, where you know a key singles artist of the era like Missy is going to be represented more than once, you still have to be selective and include only their very best. i don't think that song's among her very best by a long shot.

and probably one of her better songs for that pure GOTTA DANCE impulse xp

As ILM's foremost Wilco expert, I have a bone to pick with this fucking list!

#411 is "Handshake Drugs." OK, awesome.

But the album art shown is for the More Like The Moon EP and the year is 2003. The More Like The Moon EP did come out in 2003, but it contained a completely different version of "Handshake Drugs" than the one on A ghost is born. The embedded audio file is from A ghost is born. Either Pitchfork's writers like the inferior version on the EP and put up the wrong audio file, or the album artwork and date are RONG.

That being said, A++ P4k for putting this together. It's fascinating to look through.

i dunno -- it seems like Pitchfork takes the opposite stance of P&J, in that if there's any minor support for a remix or alternate version of a song, that gets the nod instead of the original

― some dude, Monday, August 17, 2009 12:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I mean, this is the way to make platinum artists still seem like elitist/hip/contarian/indie choices. It isn't just p4k that does this...

i kinda feel like when doing lists like this, where you know a key singles artist of the era like Missy is going to be represented more than once, you still have to be selective and include only their very best. i don't think that song's among her very best by a long shot.

ILM disagrees with you!

This Is Not A Poll!: The Missy Elliott Singles Poll.

I mean, as soon as any song leaks--even something as benign as Das Racist--blogs fight to stake claim to the "best" remix

it's meme economy tactics

and i'm not singling out pfork. everyone does this now.

x(...)post

Also, according to my knowledge + Wikipedia, "Handshake Drugs" was never formally released as a single. Guessing that doesn't matter so much here.

i'm glad they used the lego sleeve for the B&S song

I really love how you can stream all the embedded songs. "Fake Palindromes!" Yes 2005!

spotify playlist: http://bit.ly/vSElp

@kshighway: It's probably my favorite song on A Ghost Is Born, fwiw. (Although I did listen to "At Least That's What You Said" the other day because of you -- I'd forgotten how good the guitar solo is.)

Handshake Drugs is my favourite Wilco song period (well, IATTBYH and Poor Places give it a good run) and I'm glad it's here.