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I've only had one notice ever, for a torrent when I forgot to turn on the VPN. Generally use VPN for both torrents and slsk, better safe than sorry.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 June 2024 15:30 (two years ago)

people running little data centers in their house itt

― calstars

i mean i'm paranoid, shit disappears and one of the best ways to keep shit from disappearing is to have a personal... i wouldn't even call it a "library", it's not curated very well at all. i save what i can save and when the stuff i'm interested isn't endangered then one can worry about things like curation and organization. it's one of the reasons i fixate on obscure shit nobody else cares about. cuz that's the shit that's endangered. yeah i download youtube videos that have like 100 views. not systematically or comprehensively, but if something's niche and i'm interested in it, i do make a personal copy of it. it was interesting, i was watching geoff thew's videos and he has changed his mind on piracy, does recognize that it's an important form of preservation. personal archives are _important_. shit will always get lost and weirdo internet nerds are key in keeping that from happening.

no, which is why i use it and don't use torrents, because i *have* gotten legal notices for torrenting in the past

― ivy.

same. i mean the thing about slsk is that even as wonderful and sprawling a place as archive, they _do_ get copyright takedowns and slsk doesn't. it's a pretty useful underground information economy, in part _because_ of its unstructured nature and 1999-era user interface. it's a lot like ilx itself, really - still a viable place _despite_ its obvious technological obsolesence. whereas a torrent site like DIME, that was a really useful place for niche content for me for a while, but it doesn't really serve that purpose for me right now. a lot of that is the interface. i don't know how to use that to find useful stuff, and less and less useful stuff gets posted. it gets drowned out by the latest remaster of some old zep bootleg. back when i could check the new torrents every day, i found some cool stuff, but i can't do that, and if i'm not just looking at the new torrents, i can only view them 25 torrents to a page. excruciating! so there's a case where technological reasons mean that i can't use a site that i use to use really enthusiastically.

with slsk, i do find a lot of my downloads coming from a few users. just like for legal streaming services, there are different services with different things, so there are different underground services with different things, with distinct advantages and disadvantages. for some people, it's NZB files, for some people, it's torrents, public trackers, private trackers, for some people it's rutracker. in my case, shit, i've been using slsk continuously for 22 years and i don't see any reason to quit. it's a low-risk way of accessing the sort of information i'm looking to experience.

I had a look at slsk once and couldn't get my head around it at all. It was all so messy and unstructured. The beauty of private trackers is that it's all well organised and you know you are getting exactly what you want, be it a flac or v0 mp3 or whatever. Everything is easily searchable, properly labelled and tagged, there's high resolution artwork, etc.

― bored by endless ecstasy (anagram)

see i look at that and say "yep, that's why i use slsk and not private trackers". i'm a messy and... _inconsistently_ structured kind of girl. there's a lot of stuff i struggle to find on my nas. i download a lot more than i watch. i kinda love it, not being in complete control. i love the mystery, the novelty. i love not having to spend a lot of effort _deciding_. uwu.

as far as notices... the companies have gone after slsk in the past, but it's only ever been sporadic, and they don't seem to have found it worth the bother for the most part. that can always change, but it's been a _long_ time since i've heard of people getting notices from slsk shares.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 June 2024 15:50 (two years ago)

look I’m a massive nerd so I have my own preferred way of naming files, I refuse to follow some torrent’s falsely objective standard

are you browsing Soulseek hits for files named how you like? ...cuz you need to get mp3Tag or something! Fantastic complement to all this business

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 6 June 2024 15:55 (two years ago)

lol what was I even saying there, what a mystifying post by me. I used to use mp3tag, bulk renamer to do it when I had more time, yeah, now I have too many to really deal with it. I guess I was thinking back to the stringent encoding/logging/filening requirements these sites often have for uploading stuff

brimstead, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:05 (two years ago)

I wonder if there's a point in an artist's career where they get big enough that even the small risk of blowback from being found out running a soulseek client makes them wistfully close their connection forever.

or conversely who is the biggest artist who is reckless enough to shout out their soulseek username unprompted?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:14 (two years ago)

twice I've been messaged by artists whose work I'd downloaded, it was like "hey glad you're interested in our stuff but uhh if you like it maybe consider buying a copy...", both times I did because I felt guilty. obviously they could use the money.

frogbs, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:44 (two years ago)

One of my biggest uses of the thing is getting digital copies of new releases i bought on vinyl. Remember download cards?? Slsk's easier anyway!

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:46 (two years ago)

but yeah to rush's point I think we're at the stage where stuff is just permanently disappearing from the internet, particularly as certain users leave soulseek it feels like there's just stuff you can't get anymore, maybe not everything deserves to live forever but I do get kind of a lonely feeling now listening to something that just doesn't exist online anywhere anymore

frogbs, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:48 (two years ago)

One of my biggest uses of the thing is getting digital copies of new releases i bought on vinyl. Remember download cards?? Slsk's easier anyway!

― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, June 6, 2024 11:46 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

I do the same, when soulseek was down a bit ago I remember thinking "uhhh am I actually gonna have to use these things now?"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:48 (two years ago)

plus if you ever sell the vinyl, you could advertise the download card as unused?! lol

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:50 (two years ago)

yeah i have pirated many releases that i own physical copies of because it's faster and easier than ripping them, let alone fishing them out of storage.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 6 June 2024 16:51 (two years ago)

fpsa, fwiw in my experience Germany is one of the worst countries for that kinda stuff, they're very proactive in fighting file sharing, torrenting, etc. My perception is the US is less so.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 6 June 2024 17:40 (two years ago)

An ISP email notice in Canada is just noise - nothing will come of it. How bad can that stuff get?

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:22 (two years ago)

Well, when you're on a visa...

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:24 (two years ago)

yeah if you're on a visa everything scares you

fpsa, Thursday, 6 June 2024 19:33 (two years ago)

What VPN do you use, CAAL? I don't torrent/slsk much at all but should probably cover my arse.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 6 June 2024 19:55 (two years ago)

whichever one is offering the best deal at renewal time, last time that was surfshark. don't think there's that much difference tbh

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 June 2024 20:04 (two years ago)

i've just really grown to hate nordvpn, they're obnoxious. particularly all this shit about "online safety", bullshit, all anybody uses vpns for is because they want to pirate shit without getting legal notices

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 June 2024 22:52 (two years ago)

First seven years I was using VPNs it was because that's the only way to access the western internet from China, it just became a habit, couldn't bring myself to torrent or fileshare without it.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 June 2024 22:57 (two years ago)

http://imgur.com/a/aQe4Jhc.jpg

all hail the hardcorest slsker in town

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 7 June 2024 01:46 (two years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/vzMSlH9.jpeg

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 7 June 2024 01:47 (two years ago)

apologies for sharing a giant image of my dirty tennis hat

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 7 June 2024 01:48 (two years ago)

Probably wanna wash that hat

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 June 2024 01:51 (two years ago)

in my defense it had just been used

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 7 June 2024 01:55 (two years ago)

I love ILX because we can steadfastly hold onto lore like this (and slsk) for 20+ years

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 7 June 2024 01:58 (two years ago)

I've managed to maintain a healthy ratio on private trackers for years without a seedbox. You just need to upload stuff, fill requests for bounty, seed 24/7 and be selective in what you download. It's not that hard, really.

OTOH, if you're on Karagarga you can do what I do and look at whatever is up on free-leech. That 8GB download of something unexpected that someone went to all the trouble of handcrafting english subtitles to might be really good - as well as good for yr ratio.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 June 2024 02:44 (two years ago)

I mean, right now there's a trio of Von Sternberg silents that will improve your life and your KG ratio - get on it!

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 June 2024 03:08 (two years ago)

Great hat. new Zing logo

default damager (lukas), Friday, 7 June 2024 03:21 (two years ago)

Yeah I'm on KG as well, great resource and very easy to maintain ratio.

I think we're at the stage where stuff is just permanently disappearing from the internet, particularly as certain users leave soulseek it feels like there's just stuff you can't get anymore, maybe not everything deserves to live forever but I do get kind of a lonely feeling now listening to something that just doesn't exist online anywhere anymore

KG is the most valuable resource for arthouse and obscure film anywhere. But the same applies to red for music, it has an archival function which slsk is never going to be able to live up to.

bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Friday, 7 June 2024 07:35 (two years ago)

I have a few hundred 7" singles I bought in the mid-late 90s and a significant amount are not to be found anywhere, not slsk, not youtube, not spotify, not torrent sites, certainly not commercially available. Even The Yummy Fur's album Night Club, which was in the Melody Maker's top 20 albums of 1996, is only to be found on slsk.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2024 07:47 (two years ago)

It's on the private tracker of which I'm a member (as are Sexy World and Male Shadow at Three O'Clock)

bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Friday, 7 June 2024 09:32 (two years ago)

honestly the technical speak about torrenting and trackers and etc is most of what turns me off. i know that’s an unpopular opinion here, but i want to download music, not learn a bunch of technical speak in order to download music.

i open slsk, i search, and then i can pick what suits my needs. it’s easy and fast enough for me.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 7 June 2024 10:54 (two years ago)

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion on this thread

Colonel Poo, Friday, 7 June 2024 10:57 (two years ago)

all seekers welcome

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 June 2024 11:38 (two years ago)

sweatin’ to the ‘seek

calstars, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:32 (two years ago)

Did I mention I'm on a *private* tracker?

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:44 (two years ago)

(I'm only teasing. Mostly.)

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:44 (two years ago)

havent bothered with private tracker world since what.cd went under. anyone got a spare KG invite? sounds interesting. will seed on NAS keep that ratio sterling yeeeaaaaa

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:53 (two years ago)

o ya? i will have to look into that for my NAS

I use this to run Soulseek on my Synology NAS: https://github.com/realies/soulseek-docker

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 8 June 2024 08:59 (two years ago)

_Just be a nerd like me and keep a small NAS running at home 24/7 for torrents, it’s handy for a load of other thing too. I also run Soulseek on it in a Docker container which also runs 24/7._


This may be veering off-topic, but does anyone know a good beginner resource on this kind of stuff? I'm thinking about moving my plex stuff from my gaming PC to a dedicated, always-on mini PC so that my partner can watch stuff without having me be home to log in (an NAS seems a bit overkill for my needs, especially price-wise) but don't know the basics such as getting new content onto that remote PC's external drive, or anything about linux.


Give this a skim and see if it fits what you want. https://docs.saltbox.dev/saltbox/basics/basics/

beard papa, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 23:12 (two years ago)

one month passes...

Just had a very weird thing where I was d/l a tv show and got a 'banned' response followed by a one word message from the user naming a city fairly close by to me. Something I need to act on or keep my head down for a bit?

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 28 July 2024 12:09 (one year ago)

were you using a vpn?

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 28 July 2024 12:21 (one year ago)

It's on the to-do list! So, no.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 28 July 2024 12:37 (one year ago)

I guess a good spur to get my shit together.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 28 July 2024 12:38 (one year ago)

lol what

frogbs, Sunday, 28 July 2024 16:37 (one year ago)

was it guitarlover59?

brimstead, Sunday, 28 July 2024 18:21 (one year ago)

I felt bad for a slsk user from Georgia (the country) who was downloading loads off me with an impossibly slow, nought point something mbps internet connection. And they messaged me thanks for letting them queue up so much stuff (that would take them days to dl in total), and I was welcome to help myself to their folder.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 July 2024 18:37 (one year ago)

I got a follow-up message: 'let me guess a mac-using fa**ot from the UK?' A real charmer!

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 28 July 2024 20:07 (one year ago)

what were you downloading? lol I know it wasn't a Ted Nugent mega-folder

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 July 2024 20:17 (one year ago)

Lol.
An episode of Slow Horses! All seemed fairly benign; can't work out what pissed them off so much!

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 28 July 2024 20:19 (one year ago)


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