am i really the only person who doesn't care about reunions/reunitings/new music by old bands, like, at all? is there something wrong with me?

My general rule with reunions is I will maybe go if I didn't see them the first time around or if they are doing mostly new material. I don't begrudge anyone wanting a payday but don't feel a need to see it.

i was all about the ATCQ reunion before it resulted in recorded music, I saw them in 2006, but had no idea how badly they were squabbling behind the scenes at the time

though disagreeing w/ upthread, I always enjoy listening to the reunion album they put out

I'd pay like $30 to go see Jane's but unfortunately prices are like 5 x that. Same issue I had with the Pavement shows.

Well, it's Jane's <and> Love And Rockets, so...

$150 for two bands!! that seems high.

i was thinking about going to the first day of the New England Metal And Hardcore Festival in September and its about $120 for, like, 20+ bands! i am a concert value shopper.

Headliner: KILLSWITCH ENGAGE - 25th ANNIVERSARY SHOW

Lineup (alphabetical order): 200 Stab Wounds, After The Burial, Alluvial, Balmora, Better Lovers, Converge, Emmure, Full of Hell, Incendiary, Integrity, Machine Head, Mammoth Grinder, Missing Link, Nails, No Cure, On Broken Wings, Overkill, Psycho Frame, Simulakra, Since The Flood, The Red Chord, Tribal Gaze, Xibalba + MANY MORE TBA

the second day is good too but i think i could only handle one day. and Converge/Full of Hell/Nails on the first day are the ones for me.

Headliner: SLAUGHTER TO PREVAIL

Lineup (alphabetical order):

As I Lay Dying, Bane, Brand Of Sacrifice, Brat, Corpse Pile, Death Before Dishonor, Disembodied Tyrant, Ends of Sanity, Fleshgod Apocalypse, Ingested, Jarhead Fertilizer, Life Cycles, Mouth For War, Pain of Truth, Peeling Flesh, Shadow of Intent, Snuffed On Sight, Suicidal Tendencies, Suicide Silence, The Zenith Passage, Throwdown, Trail Of Lies, Two Piece, Upon Stone, With Honor + MANY MORE TBA

in today's uncertain times, hardcore still good bang for the buck.

if i were a union tradesmen punk fan i would be able to afford the $325 Saturday VIP package:

SATURDAY DELUXE VIP PACKAGE

- ONE (1) GENERAL ADMISSION TICKET (SATURDAY ONLY)

- MEET & GREET WITH SELECT ARTISTS (SATURDAY ONLY - FULL LIST OF BANDS TBA)

- SEPARATE VIEWING AREA WITH PRIVATE CASH BAR + PRIVATE RESTROOMS

- COMMEMORATIVE FESTIVAL T-SHIRT

- EXCLUSIVE FESTIVAL POSTER

- EXCLUSIVE VIP NEMHF DICE

- EXCLUSIVE VIP NEMHF FOAM FINGER

- NEMHF 2024 KOOZIE

- NEMHF 2024 DRAWSTRING BAG

- EXCLUSIVE VIP SOUVENIR LAMINATE WITH LANYARD

- CD GRAB BAG FROM NUCLEAR BLAST AND SHARPTONE RECORDS

- FESTIVAL RE-ENTRY

PRIVATE CASH BAR say no more

There's some pretty sketchy bands on that bill. Slaughter To Prevail's frontman is some kind of Russian white nationalist, and the singer from As I Lay Dying went to prison for hiring a hit man to kill his wife. One of the dudes from the Red Chord is a cop, too, if that's a problem for you.

On the first day I'd want to see Converge (again), Emmure, Full of Hell, Integrity, Machine Head (again), Nails, and Xibalba.

On the second day I'd really only want to see Suicidal Tendencies (again) and Throwdown. And there's no way ST would be as good as they were in 1990, with Rocky George and Robert Trujillo in the band, so...

the only people i really like on that second day are fleshgod apocalypse and jarhead fertilizer. so much of that stuff is for hardcore lifers. i don't need to see bane.

Best reunion I've seen was Page/Plant, they very much had the intensity and excitement of a Led Zep show. Rocked way harder than I expected.

I caught Love and Rockets last year and they were really good, they stuck to the hits but it all sounded very modern and big and they had tons of energy.

The most lackluster ones were the Yes Union tour and the first time Donald Fagen and Walter Becker got back together in the 90s. Both very dull shows.

good thing I already hate Slaughter to Prevail based purely on their music

Pain of Truth are sick

i don't think i've ever even listened to Slaughter to Prevail. don't even know why they are top dog at a festival. i never go to things like that but i thought maybe if i could get my one and only hardcore friend to go with me that it might be something to do that would somehow be memorable. i try to get myself to do things. but i never do things. still feel bad that i didn't go see Arnold Dreyblatt down the street a couple of weeks ago. also didn't go see IlxOr Milton Parker two nights ago with his combo Negativland at the same spot. and my friends were opening. i have social issues. but converge and full of hell might be just the ticket to get me out of the house...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6PEX3vvWtI

gotta say that it felt like an absolute privilege for me to have been present when Shirley Collins did her first and totally unannounced live performance in 35 years as a guest of current 93 in london in 2014

was also present when all the members of YMO played on stage together for possibly one of the very last times in london in 2018 at what was supposed to be a hosono solo show

both of these were complete surprises and both of them felt utterly magical to me

i hope that i experience something like that again one day, just don't know what it will be!

(and not quite the same magnitude but i loved the records polvo made when they got back together)

Slaughter to Prevail are 'deathcore' that borrow as much from nu-metal and djenty crap as from death metal and the vocalist's name is Alex Terrible

The whole kind of shaggy, underground version of Led Zep basically just became Led Zep.

like everybody else around LA I saw Jane's a bunch of time in their original incarnation and they were very good the first time you saw em and after that you increasingly had to ignore that they were a solid ass band whose frontman was steering the ship into cringey waters. at no point in their history however did they "become Led Zep" unless we modify that to "became Led Zep except not good"

the last pavement tour they were way better as a live band than they had been originally

too bad

?

I prefer them shambling and slightly amateurish

i was seeing... there's this band whose '90s demo cd went viral, and they're touring the us, which the original never would have done. they have fans now and they didn't before. i don't know if i'd see them or if they're good, but people get to _hear_ them live, they get to _play_ for audiences they never would have.
― Kate (rushomancy)

This is Panchiko fwiw!

Keyes otm. The professionalism of current reunion pavement clashes with a key part of their 90s essence. Felt like watching an INSANELY GOOD AND ACCURATE Pavement cover band, fronted by all the original musicians.

This is Panchiko fwiw!

― really looking forward to wearily scrolling past all your posts (Champiness)

them, yeah

it's weird seeing old stuff that catches on because i listen to it and i'm like "yeah that's alright" and there's tons of other stuff from that era that nobody's heard of and to me, you know, like hazeldine or whatever could go viral at any time. but it won't i guess because they hear and see that stuff in ways that people my age didn't. if i'd heard panchiko in '97 i probably would've said "yeah they're pretty good". maybe it just takes time for something like that to stand out. because i think it does, honestly, it just wouldn't have been obvious in '97 that it stood out.

what about specific lineups within a band's history?

like the cure is still around and great, but what if pearl started back up with them again? i just laughed in excitement at the thought!

they got a lot of fanfare when lol tolhurst returned for a few shows.

do these count as a "reunion"?

the best thing about those Lol shows was seeing a version of the Cure where Robert Smith was the sole guitarist - was really interesting and cool to be able to focus on his playing

definitely a return to the full "classic" lineup (ie Boris and Pearl) would be a big deal

like everybody else around LA I saw Jane's a bunch of time in their original incarnation and they were very good the first time you saw em and after that you increasingly had to ignore that they were a solid ass band whose frontman was steering the ship into cringey waters. at no point in their history however did they "become Led Zep" unless we modify that to "became Led Zep except not good"

― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, June 4, 2024 4:31 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, I meant "became Led Zep" as in went from weirdo alternative culture band to familiar arena rock cheese

See also the incredibly rapid evolution of Porno for Pyros from horny punkbro philosopher hard rock band to electronic beach hippies.

That first P4P album is an absolute classic to me, and I still couldn't work up the energy to hit the reunion shows, but that's also partially unemployment & residual covid paranoia

Well it was pretty awesome to see Television a number of times.

that beach boys / joni / csny show i saw as a kid in 1974 was technically a csny reunion. that show was formative. the jury's in -- reunions rule!
https://jonimitchell.com/chronology/images/1405_user10675_130608-151205.jpg

i saw CSN in 1984 outside somewhere. and i remember being surprised by how good they sounded. i was expecting something much worse. that was the year of the freebasing gun charge after all.

^saw them around 95, still sounded good then too

I saw the Pink Floyd reunion tour in 1987 and didn't listen to Pink Floyd for something like two years afterwards. Just completely burned me out on their music.

from the nytimes article on that 1974 csny show:

“Everybody's getting along great,” said David Crosby of his group, which has been famed for its periodic tensions. Crosby, Sills, Nash & Young hadn't played together for four years before their reunion this summer.

“We seem to have a two‐month half‐life, and then it blows,” Mr. Crosby said, smiling, this afternoon as he waited during Miss Mitchell's set for Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young to go on. “Actually there are no hard feelings now. We just want to take a well‐deserved rest, and then we'll go into the studio in November and record an album.”

ha ha! what album?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Highway_(album)

Crosby told journalist Dave Zimmer that Human Highway "would have been the best one, man."

After the tour ended, the band gathered in December 1974 at Nash's basement studio in San Francisco to continue the album. These sessions were marred with disagreements, leading to Stills slicing up Nash's demo tape of Wind On The Water with a razor, to which Nash responded by kicking Stills out of his house.

ha always such dramaz...I guess the drugs will do that

Nash, in his memoir Wild Tales, recalled that "some business, some cocaine thing, went down, and suddenly we weren't talking to each other."

if you haven't read that barney hoskyns Hotel California...maybe don't read it. its so bleak. in that book i learned that Stills was doing so much cocaine that he was starting to have flashbacks to his time as a soldier in Vietnam! !!! that is some heavy coke psychosis.

the only people who come out of that book unscathed are linda ronstadt and jackson browne.

Hotel California BOOK. just to be clear.

They talk about that in Shakey too. Stills even bought a surplus uniform and claimed it has his gear from 'Nam.

Its funny in that book when Tom Waits says about the Eagles “they don’t have cow shit on their boots, just dogshit from laurel canyon”

Is that the book where Linda Ronstadt and Joni Mitchell meet on J. D. Souther's doorstep, one leaving and one arriving?

i want someone to make a biopic that is just joni, james taylor, and warren oates going across the country while they made two-lane blacktop hanging out in warren's trailer. a road movie within the making of a road movie.