am i really the only person who doesn't care about reunions/reunitings/new music by old bands, like, at all? is there something wrong with me?

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lukewarm new records from bands like mazzy star

WRONG

ivy., Monday, 3 June 2024 00:25 (two years ago)

“I never saw the point of Steely Dan live, period. Steely Dan were a studio project.”

This is exactly what my dad said before he saw them live in 73, they completely fucking smoked apparently.

brimstead, Monday, 3 June 2024 00:43 (two years ago)

When Skot Cared About Reunions: Little Feat Fuckin' Rocked Tonight!!!!🕸

Hahaha!

calstars, Monday, 3 June 2024 00:45 (two years ago)

I definitely got some goosebumps last week clicking through videos of Jane's kicking off their tour. Definitely probably a heavy % of nostalgia for where and when and with whom I heard those songs first. Doesn't hurt that they are great songs, written and anchored by the one member who usually isn't there...

I'm getting older, they are getting older, the songs are getting older. I'm just glad that they are willing to bring out the photo album so I can flip through it one more time.

(Not sure I will be able to pay to see it live but who knows!)

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Monday, 3 June 2024 01:20 (two years ago)

I would go see the Janes/L&R tour — I love both of them and have never seen either — but the only places close to me don't work with other commitments. Ah well. Let's just marvel that it's still possible for Jane's Addiction to have an OG member reunion.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 June 2024 01:34 (two years ago)

my lifelong obsession with live music is partly fuelled by not seeing Jane's in 1991 when I had the opportunity

I gotta say the two times I saw the reformed band (2003 without E.Avery and 2010 with him) - I went in with zero expectations other than ticking a box - and both times were really exciting and moving and satisfying on a level that I can't really explain

actually I saw them last year too with Josh Klinghoffer - and it was really cool too (although perhaps it didn't have that spiritual dimension - I think partly because they were supporting Smashing Pumpkins and playing in a barn)

Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Monday, 3 June 2024 01:54 (two years ago)

i never thought about age when i was young. when i first heard all the classic rock bands they were still in their 20s and 30s and they all just seemed like "adults" to me. i had no idea how old anyone was. when i bought Hell Bent For Leather rob halford was, like, 27 or 28 years old. but he SEEMED ancient to me because he had a beard. so, i just figured people in metal bands and classic rock bands were old and would keep doing what they were doing because some of them had beards and that was their job as an adult. with punk and new wave it really seemed like kids/young people were making the music. especially with hardcore. and i just never thought in a million years they would still be doing it in their 50s and 60s! i mean, if you told me in 1980 that adam ant was going to be singing "ant music" onstage when he was 70 it would have blown my mind! whereas by 1980 the rolling stones already looked like they had been playing for a thousand years. charlie watts looked like he was 100 to me back then. so, maybe that is the difference to me for some weird reason. it just doesn't make sense to go see Love & Rockets even though i still worship Bauahus and L&R and ToT to this day. they feel stuck in time to me. of their moment. or i am stuck in that time when i hear them. too much cognitive dissonance for me to hear them sing those songs in 2024. Madonna yes. she makes sense. Bauhaus no. i dunno. it really makes no sense. its my own weird brain. but, like i said, i'm happy for all the cure fans and duran duran fans and depeche mode fans. i guess i just can't see them as classic rock.

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2024 02:44 (two years ago)

I did buy a ticket to see Sisters of Mercy this fall, but Eldritch is technically undead so ...

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 June 2024 03:05 (two years ago)

yeah, makes sense.

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2024 03:06 (two years ago)

i did love that chameleons reunion show i saw in philly. oh god they were so fucking good. it used to be on youtube but i don't see it now. but that was like 25 years ago! and they are playing there this summer. i will still never forgive them for not playing "swamp thing" though. so perverse.

speaking of hardcore, i did take my kid to see Negative Approach here in town. they were okay but i was mostly afraid that john brannon was going to have a stroke. he's also kinda undead like andrew eldritch though. the most memorable thing about that show was lou barlow saying to me "how can you let your beautiful boy slam dance like that?" and i was like eh its not boston in 1982, lou, its greenfield mass in 2018. despite being an influential pioneer of american hardcore lou is not a fan of mosh pits.

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2024 03:12 (two years ago)

(Don't) Smash Your Head On The Old Punk Rock

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 June 2024 03:16 (two years ago)

I’m kicking myself for not seeing the chams here last year, it was like 20 bucks at a smallish venue, never seen em

brimstead, Monday, 3 June 2024 03:21 (two years ago)

Man, I loved Jane’s so much in high school but I guess I didn’t work up the motivation to drive three hours to Miami to see the 1997 reunion.

I did finally see them live in 2001 at Madison Square Garden and they just were kind of a bummer from the goofy steampunk aesthetics to the little acoustic stage. I think there was some burlesque elements in their live show at one point, I don’t remember if it was at the show I was at.

They burned through so much goodwill from me in the next decade. Perry basically becoming like this hippie-dippie EDM burning man Vegas carnival barker and Navarro really leaning into goth-metal Vegas douchebag. The whole kind of shaggy, underground version of Led Zep basically just became Led Zep. Strays was awful. I can’t even remember The Great Escape Artist or whatever the fuck it was called but it was probably awful. Kind of shocked to see ppl psyched for this reunion because the last reunion left such a terrible aftertaste with me.

Perk, obviously, can no wrong with me and I saw his Hellride project with Watt not too long ago at a small club and it absolutely ripped, no Chaki

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 June 2024 07:18 (two years ago)

The Zombies reunion was amazing, one of the best shows I’ve ever seen

Oh hey should I see them at the Barbican?

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 3 June 2024 09:55 (two years ago)

Is it a fear of being disappointed, or true indifference Scott ? Or maybe your attention just shifting away from old acts - a sense that it is not their time anymore.

For the album, I rarely see them as the big event / return that they're marketed to be, but I cannot lie and pretend I don't have some level of curiosity. I tend to set my expectations low though.

For a live show, I am generally not in favor of seeing acts years after their sell-by date.

Nabozo, Monday, 3 June 2024 12:10 (two years ago)

I did go and see Wire in 2011.

Nabozo, Monday, 3 June 2024 12:14 (two years ago)

Reunion shows, hmmm.

I think I only went to two, Buzzcocks and Velvet Underground.

I probably should have gone to see Television, but I was a bit disappointed in their third album. However, last week I listened to that live album and it was great.

I'm picky, I guess. I have nothing against bands reforming for the 'money' tour, or picking up with new albums, artists gotta eat, etc ..

Mark G, Monday, 3 June 2024 13:01 (two years ago)

"a sense that it is not their time anymore."

i think its this. i am more of an album listener than a live music person. and old albums i love are like old books or old movies i love. though i feel like music definitely remains more inspiring to me year in and year out than if i were to read a fave book or re-watch a fave movie. i still get power from old music. they keep my lights on! and a new album or tour by an old entity just doesn't compute for me. i can't imagine it being inspiring. but i'm all for being proven wrong. there is some indifference as well. "did you hear who is going on tour???" is a sentence that rarely excites me. but some people are live music fanatics. makes sense that they would get excited.

i also feel bad that people feel pressure to duplicate something that they did in the past. for whatever reason. i don't begrudge them the money reason. everyone needs money. but putting on the old hat and making music similar to music you made when you were a completely different person (and it kinda has to be similar if you want anyone to buy it) for one more rodeo feels wearying to me. it must be so much easier to just be buddy guy or carcass to name two supremely entertaining performers with a set formula mentioned on this thread who are really good at what they do and just do that because that's what they do. and who should definitely tour together at some point.

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2024 13:21 (two years ago)

There's a couple of bands where I like the new/late-era output better than the old stuff (Slowdive, Motörhead) but it's very rare. But I don't mind reunions so much - I don't expect mind-blowing greatness but I figure it's more constructive to support these people today than to give them props on the internet for making a good album 25 years ago.

Siegbran, Monday, 3 June 2024 13:43 (two years ago)

i have never been compelled to see carcass or buddy guy but i would see them if they played together.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 3 June 2024 13:48 (two years ago)

that mott the hoople reunion i travelled for was so heartwarming. i think back to that all the time. just seeing the marquee out front that said "mott the hoople."

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 3 June 2024 13:51 (two years ago)

there weren't mobs of kids ripping the seats up but we are all at different stages of our lives.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 3 June 2024 13:57 (two years ago)

I went to a reunion show for one of my favourite groups last year, and yeah it was wonderful, but I went to see them several times when they were originally together and it was better then because there would always be some new music in the set. when I go to a gig I want to hear musicians playing music that's fresh to them, not the same songs they've been playing for decades. but I guess most of the audience just want the hits, so that doesn't make sense financially.

also feel like reunion gigs are kind of like fan conventions now. and fan conventions can be fun! but not the same as a great gig.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 June 2024 14:10 (two years ago)

yeah this is why I've really dug some recent shows I've been to - Sparks, Todd Rundgren, They Might be Giants, all over whom are known primarily for that one era like 3-5 years in but have been writing and performing for way longer than that. they'll play a few hits of course but otherwise can bounce all over from like 4-5 decades of work, including some new stuff that's generally well-received, it gives you a level of appreciation for them that you don't get from bands that are just permanently trying to relive a certain era

frogbs, Monday, 3 June 2024 14:17 (two years ago)

I think in general, a lot of Gen X bands figured out a playbook to age/reunite gracefully. The Pavement reunion show I went to in DC last year was an absolute blast. Also, as cited above, Mission of Burma, Slowdive, Dinosaur Jr. have all done it.

I guess we'll see about acts that had their heyday in the 2000s/2010s. Aside from the White Stripes I don't think there's many in that crop for whom reunions would even be a big deal. The Knife?

Chris L, Monday, 3 June 2024 14:27 (two years ago)

it depends I mean - I don't think it diminishes a band to stick around/reunite and not release any new material. the constant release of new material is a capitalist pressure that bands often have to do but if they're well-off financially and don't feel the need or desire to put out new material, more power to them.

If they do put out new material and it's good to great, that does usually make me happier, but not a requirement, and I definitely don't want them to put out anything outright embarrassing.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 June 2024 14:29 (two years ago)

i love it when a band with a relatively small discog reunites years later and puts out new music that's equal to or even better than their old stuff, it's like oh man i finally have more of this sound... thinkin about quicksand here

ivy., Monday, 3 June 2024 14:32 (two years ago)

in general if there's an artist or group of artists i connected with at any point, i love getting to hear what their art is like later in their lives, bc there's always like a subtle perceptual shift, even when they're picking up where they left off

the only band i can think of that completely fucked this up was smashing pumpkins

ivy., Monday, 3 June 2024 14:36 (two years ago)

just spitballing on bands who have released albums I think are incredible or at least pretty great in their 'second life':

Angel Witch
Satan
A Tribe Called Quest (RIP Phife)
Carcass
Black Sabbath (fuck u 13 rules)
Suffocation
Convulse
Diamond Head
Descendents (I'm talking Everything Sucks here and I know half this board will disagree)
At the Gates
Celtic Frost (yeah I've finally warmed up to Monotheist)
Skinny Puppy

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 June 2024 14:46 (two years ago)

there's obv more than that I'm just terrible at insta-recall

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 June 2024 14:46 (two years ago)

"but I figure it's more constructive to support these people today than to give them props on the internet for making a good album 25 years ago."

i dig this. its a victory lap for the artists and a way for fans to show their appreciation. it totally makes sense to me.

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2024 14:52 (two years ago)

Magma are a pretty good example of this, arguably their two best studio albums came since reuniting

frogbs, Monday, 3 June 2024 14:54 (two years ago)

i love a 1999 album by Faust. Ravvivando. as much as i like any Faust. don't know if that's a reunion effort or what though.

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2024 14:59 (two years ago)

I saw Faust at a mid 90s reunion concert. I don't remember much about the music, but they set off road flares inside the club and that was some of the thickest, nastiest-smelling smoke I've ever experienced in my life.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 3 June 2024 15:03 (two years ago)

When I was 16 and Dinosaur Jr reunited it blew my mind that I was able to catch a band I (at the time) loved whose good part of their career was concurrent with me being an infant. Then the next year Slint reunited and I had the same feeling. A year or so later I caught Simply Saucer’s reunion and by that point I was on the path of never wanting to miss a reunion… after seeing a bunch of them and realizing how hit or miss they can be, though, I started skipping the ones that I thought might not be all that great and these days I’m rarely motivated to see any kind of reunion act at all. As has been suggested above, I have zero interest in seeing a greatest hits tour of anyone, but if they do a rotating selection of deep cuts (Ween) or play the songs differently and/or improvise then I’m more likely to at least think about it.

Slim is an Alien, Monday, 3 June 2024 15:27 (two years ago)

Sometimes I feel bad about this, but I generally not compelled to see a band more than two or three times. Like, outside of local favs who always play and it's low effort and cheap and fun to see them a tenth time, I've passed up a lot chances to see deeply beloved acts, especially if I saw them at "my peak" with them.

The only time I saw the Pixies was before they put out records, opening for the Throwing Muses, and they already had a huge presence and the crowd was very worked up about them. This was a cherished memory of being *there*, man! But then a few years ago, I decided to see if there were any bootlegs of the gig, and going over gig histories in Boston, it was clear that this show was at The Rat in December 1986. Yet my memory is clearly placing them on the stage of The Paradise club. So the memory feels kinda useless now. Maybe I should have tried to see them again before it went to crap.

The Rolling Stones Still Life album was a fairly traumatic realization for my 14 year old self that seeing legends wasn't gonna be a legendary experience.

Theracane Gratifaction (bendy), Monday, 3 June 2024 15:43 (two years ago)

dinosaur, as long as they are able and still get along well enough, can go the neil young route forever. parents take their kids to see them, you know? its a universal guitar noise thing. J. will always be revered. and lou and murph still bash it out like they are kids. i got to DJ a dino jr. show here at a tiny club and all their families were there and it was just so nice.

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2024 15:50 (two years ago)

kids like dinosaurs

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Monday, 3 June 2024 16:00 (two years ago)

There's a theater near where I live that seems to specialize in tribute acts (Jessie's Girl lol), live podcast episodes and old and/or reformed acts. Checking the upcoming shows I see-- Roger Daltry, The Church & Afghan Whigs, The Moody Blues' John Lodge, Justin Hayward & Christopher Cross, 10cc, Little River Band, Big Star Quartet, Jon Anderson, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (Farewell Tour), OMD, Robin Trower

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Monday, 3 June 2024 16:14 (two years ago)

coming up at Shirley's Bull Run Restaurant near me is Lenny Clarke: the "crazy train" of comedy, The Fools, Doris Kearns Goodwin, John Barleycorn Must Live - The Steve Winwood/Traffic tribute band, Steve Forbert, Popa Chubby, Barrence Whitfield, Gary Hoey, Billy Prine sings John Prine, uh, i don't think i can go on.

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2024 16:30 (two years ago)

I wasn't aware of the Big Star Quintet. Apparently it's Jody Stephens, Mike Mills, Chris Stamey, Jon Auer and Pat Sansone.

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Monday, 3 June 2024 18:00 (two years ago)

Aside from the White Stripes I don't think there's many in that crop for whom reunions would even be a big deal. The Knife?

I was going to say the Strokes but I think they are still together

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 3 June 2024 18:07 (two years ago)

Magma are a pretty good example of this, arguably their two best studio albums came since reuniting

Yeah Magma are the rare example for me where I listen to their latter-day albums as much as the 70s stuff.

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 3 June 2024 18:11 (two years ago)

Aside from the White Stripes I don't think there's many in that crop for whom reunions would even be a big deal.

My Chemical Romance?

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Monday, 3 June 2024 18:21 (two years ago)

Wire are onto their third "life", although I think they're dormant at the moment.

Mind you, bands tend not to split anymore, they just go on hiatus..

Mark G, Monday, 3 June 2024 18:29 (two years ago)

mark that's a good point and another example of how the 'pixies precendent' has affected band reunions. i've long held onto the idea that the only reason outkast was doing live appearances/coachella about a decade ago is because they (specifically dre) saw how lucrative/legacy building it was for the pixies, so figured why shouldn't we get in on that?

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Monday, 3 June 2024 18:37 (two years ago)

i suppose there's no reason to officially split up now unless people hate each other and money can make things like that more palatable too.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 3 June 2024 18:39 (two years ago)

I've seen the Breeders 3x now in the past 5-6 years and they are MILES better than they were in the 1994-1995 era.

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Monday, 3 June 2024 18:40 (two years ago)

I think if Sonic Youth got back together that would be a big deal.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 3 June 2024 18:41 (two years ago)

I have been wrong about many things but I highly doubt a Sonic Youth reunion will ever happen.

Thurston's health aside, there remains a toxic stain that even a healthy stream of large European/USA/Japan festival offers would not wash away.

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Monday, 3 June 2024 18:47 (two years ago)


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