Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

otm I think Tom Joan is the last time he’s really persuasive in that mode, and even there it feels more like journalism than imagined memoir — like he’s done the research and is mustering substantial empathy as an artist, but he’s not drawing from any well of experience or first-hand observations.

lol Tom Joad autocorrect

Excellent post Lily. And tipsy makes an excellent point how Joad "feels more like journalism than imagined memoir" - I've grown to like that album, but it's probably no coincidence that the best songs (at least for me) were based on stories already written in detail elsewhere. I supposed "Nebraska" can be described as such but IIRC a lot of what's memorable and haunting in that song are Springsteen's own creation. A large part of the title track of Joad translates and even transcribes what Steinbeck wrote for his novel. Then there's "Galveston Bay" which is all drawn from a real-life story - I'm not sure if any particular lyric stands out for me, but it's a great story where all the details add up to something that's left a stronger impression than anything else on the album.

Yeah, the narratives on Nebraska feel deeply inhabited in a way they don't really on Tom Joad. Like whatever he'd tapped into on Nebraska wasn't quite there anymore, artistically, so he had to use other tools.

When more details about his depression came out in his memoir, it kind of suggested that Nebraska could only be a one-time achievement. IIRC, 1982 was about the time he really hit the breaking point with his depression, and a lot of that album really sits "comfortably" in the mindset of someone who's in a really dark place. If that's what it took to get him there, I don't hold it against him if he doesn't ever reach the same harrowing depths again.

I hear a lot of depression on Tom Joad, but I agree that Nebraska was the kind of risk that he could only take once and didn't dare try for again. It was written iirc before Springsteen had his big breakdown on his cross-country drive, and I get a sense from it of Springsteen sliding into depression almost deliberately, not trying to break his fall because to him, at that moment, depression feels like creativity. There's a kind of dark energy to Nebraska, a black light of empathy that feels very seductive. You listen to a song like "Reason to Believe," which is imo the darkest song on the whole album, and it's so charged with that feeling that can accompany the beginning of depression, that the world has been revealed to you as it really is, and that there is something special, something meaningful, about this revelation. Once Springsteen has his big breakdown, I think he stops leaning into the depression in the same way, but I do think it's very much there on Tom Joad - it just has a duller, more exhausted, more lived-in quality by then.

My favorite songs on Joad are the ones that feel as if they were written out of a depression that's if anything more entrenched than that of Nebraska. "Highway 29," "Straight Time," "Dry Lightning," even "My Best Was Never Good Enough" - there's a kind of dull, nihilistic noir voice to all of them that feels like it's probably picking up something very real about Springsteen's state of mind. I agree about the working-class Social Problem songs on Tom Joad - they feel like journalism to me rather than something felt from the inside. But then there's this other side to Joad which is Springsteen writing noir, with that classic noir theme of being so isolated from normal society that all your moral/ethical landmarks disappear and you become monstrous because there is nothing around you to keep you human.

Which can also happen in the deeper journalism, like In Cold Blood. Steinbeck doesn't go deep/isolated in the same way, but he tracks bunches of Grapescharacters, and not just the Joads, through hellacious migration---all those camps, communities of night and day, strange weather, that the reader becomes familiar with, never accustomed to (interesting to compare Woody G.'s "Tom Joad" with Bruce's: Woody had more experience along the Joads' lines, although, like Bruce, he wisely got his ass to NYC and least the fringes of show biz, through he spurned some opportunities there).
I wanted Bruce to drop the Popular Front approach and write about his and my father;s generation, The Greatest Generation as for instance Reagan Democrats, who had benefited at least in part from New Deal, Gi Bill, Eisenhower's construction of the Interstates, Military-industrial Complex boosting of economy------all that, and and then they turned against Big Government, in further contradiction, very selective "conservatism."
He eventually addressed some of that in the monologues-with-piano of his Broadway stint, I think, but maybe not in songs? I haven't kept up, sorry.

I meant, *proceeded* in further contradiction, very selective "conservatism," *through the rest of their lives and in the legacy/encouragement of some descendants.*

But there's a period in between Ghost of Tom Joad and Western Stars where Springsteen is still trying to be the writer of the working class, and imo you can tell that his heart isn't really in it

this may be true but it also gives me an excuse to bring up my favorite(????) springsteen song, “long time comin” from devils & dust. i mean he was doing a lot of character work at the time, it doesn’t all work or feel grounded in its setting but that one reaches in pretty deep imo

sorry that is a totally distracting sidepoint from lily's (as usual) excellent springsteen scholarship

No, it's not! and thank you!

Springsteen just cancelled some European gigs due to voice issues after having done UK gigs. Some tweets are saying he has Covid again (but that could be just twitter x)

2024 marks the 40th anniversary of Bruce Springsteen’s ‘Born In The U.S.A.’ Although it would become his biggest selling album with seven top 10 singles on the Billboard Hot 100, Luther Dickinson of North Mississippi Allstars says “any of those songs could be played with acoustic guitar alone and still be great.” Taking this idea as its premise, ‘Dead Man’s Town: A Tribute to Born in the U.S.A’ strips the album’s twelve indelible originals to the core, with contributions from Jason Isbell & Amanda Shires, Low, Nicole Atkins, Justin Townes Earle, Blitzen Trapper, Joe Pug, Trampled by Turtles, and more.

Rolling Stone described Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires’ Dave Cobb-produced cover of “Born In The U.S.A." as “reimagining ‘Born inthe U.S.A.’... with a reduced approach more influenced by that of the acoustic ‘Nebraska.’” Isbell says of his cover, “”Born In The U.S.A.” is one of my favorites because so many people have seemingly misunderstood the lyrical content and the song’s overall tone. When you listen to the demo, the dark, minor key
arrangement makes it clear that this is not strictly a song of celebration. We wanted to stay true to that version.” Amanda Shires adds, “I love that the song paints a picture of struggle in the face of the American dream, and the irony in the chorus is delivered with such force that it nearly transcends irony altogether.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AEqTSwtmms

RACKLIST:

Side A -

Jason Isbell & Amanda Shires - Born in the U.S.A.
Apache Relay - Cover Me
The Quaker City Night Hawks - Darlington County
Blitzen Trapper - Working On The Highway
Joe Pug - Downbound Train
Low - I'm On Fire

Side B -

Holly Williams - No Surrender
Ryan Culwell - Bobby Jean
Trampled By Turtles - I'm Goin' Down
Justin Townes Earle - Glory Days
Nicole Atkins - Dancing In The Dark
North Mississippi Allstars - My Hometown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuQweCkWUe0

That's on Lightning Rod Records.

I don't know. Doing a downbeat version of BITUSA because people misunderstand the lyrics kind of misses the point. The song was a huge sounding anthem with downer lyrics. The collision of patriotic fantasy and harsh reality.

Springsteen could see that that song needed a different approach than he used on the demo.

This reminds me of when Sub Pop did that Nebraska tribute and Son Volt made "Open All Night" suck.

https://www.subpop.com/releases/various_artists/badlands_a_tribute_to_bruce_springsteens_nebraska

Springsteen could see that that song needed a different approach than he used on the demo.

Was gonna say, we already have a stripped down version of BITUSA.

Backstory of the album, and spotlight on Arthur Baker's remixes (Bruce picked him, some true believers haated) https://www.npr.org/2024/07/02/nx-s1-5017760/bruce-springsteen-born-in-the-usa-remixes-arthur-baker"> https://www.npr.org/2024/07/02/nx-s1-5017760/bruce-springsteen-born-in-the-usa-remixes-arthur-baker includes some w vid, also this link to all of 'em, if you want to go dancing in the dark right now:

...the only way you can hear the remixes these days is if you own the vinyl or find a carefully digitized upload from a dance music historian

Damn--sorry, don't know what I did with duplication of the npr link, but the second one works.

That Cover Me remix absolutely rules. Thanks!

See, if they could collect up the remixes, all the B-Sides and relevant outtakes, throw in a new documentary and maybe even a new live video of Bruce & Co. doing the songs... that's enough for a box set. Nobody will miss the vintage live audio/video, which seems to be the thing holding such a collection back.

Collect up the music videos too, and add in all the Nebraska stuff too--this isn't hard, Bruce Reissue Team!

“Streets of fi-yah!”

what are the odds i was just practicing that on guitar!

Collab

Are you practicing the solo I assume ? Or the composition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLK-Z9QilVk

Bruce Springsteen covers Jessie Malin “She Don’t Love Me Now” from 2015 for benefit album for Malin who got temporarily (?) paralyzed from waist down and is now trying to regain usage of legs .

Bruce gives song a blue eyed soul flavor plus nice Jake Clemons sax near end . Jesse’s band is on this also

Bruce's rescheduled Orioles Park show in Baltimore finally happened Friday night. He opened with "Hungry Heart" so as to get a reaction quickly from the crowd to "got a wife and kids in Baltimore" line. Good show. I found myself very moved by all the spoken bits and songs about mortality. Between news about his wife's blood cancer, his own status as last man standing from his teenage band, these portions of his live show clearly resonate with him. His intro bit for Backstreets with him saying
he holds audience members in his heart , and then softly sings in a melancholy voice "to the end" touched me. It had me also thinking about my dad's death in 2020 & my Mom's in 2023, and this year a high school friend who I had seen Springsteen with in 1978. Bruce was also demonstrating his resilience in the face of aging and loss. Other songs also fit the theme-- "Atlantic City," "Youngstown," "Nightshift," "Last Man Standing," "Wrecking Ball," and of course the final show encore with Bruce alone on acoustic guitar on "I'll See You in My Dreams." I know he's been doing this for awhile but I just wanted to say how emotional resonant it still is.

Nitpicks- Musically Springsteen transformed "Reason to Believe" from Nebraska into a John Lee Hooker meets blues rock number that lessened it. It was done right after "Darlington County" that felt a bit too 70s southern rock at times. Encore "Twist & Shout" didn't rock like Mitch Ryder and Detroit Wheels medley once did (I get that Bruce is older but he rocked other songs well enough )

One other thought - Seeing him do "E Street Shuffle" and "Rosalita" and the Commodores "Nightshift" with this touring band with the added percussionist, and backing Black singers, had me thinking about Greg Tate's thoughts and ILXOrs also addressing how in an alternate world Springsteen could have gone in a more funky direction rather than a more stripped down rock direction.

Softy me had tears in my eyes for some of those songs .

relatable!
sounds like a fantastic show <3

Last night's Asbury Park show sounds pretty amazing - Patti Scialfa even made an appearance.

Yes ! Bruce had a busy day w/ his own show plus sitting in with other acts . The review notes: "The format of the show did not follow the rocking mortality format of the current tour."

Live from Roberto's Freehold Grill:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DArLPGnIJD3/?igsh=ZWx5cWZyeHI3ZGNt

hahaha as usual I love seeing the comments from so-called "fans" completely furious at his political stances

https://preview.redd.it/only-the-strongest-lungs-will-survive-v0-228bezyqwj531.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a77cc42dd48c59d34bc4bdf471bfa29c79c960a2

The rocker Bruce Springsteen will perform at a rally on Thursday in Atlanta, appearing alongside Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Barack Obama, as Democrats seek to energize voters with a series of concerts before Election Day.

Mr. Springsteen will also join a rally on Monday in Philadelphia with Mr. Obama.

Just when you think you’ve seen it all…. @springsteen and the #estreetband open up Montreal with….. GHOSTBUSTERS!! 👻 #springsteen #springsteentour2024 pic.twitter.com/c7nd4sFpXy

— Spring-Nuts (@SpringNuts_) October 31, 2024

Brucin' makes 'em feel good!

awesome

what a world

love!

I love that he's still so goofy.

dear boss, never stop being a huge dork xx

I ain't afraid of Tom Joad

hats off to Ray Parker Jr for smuggling "bustin' makes me feel good" into a song to be sung by children for the rest of the existence of humanity

Thereby succinctly summing up the gist of the rest of his oeuvre

I like him adding this to his live songs, in part because similar bubblegum 1960s songs have the sheen of Smithsonian history to them, but this one musically and lyrically fits with those. And who better to do the horn parts?

I only needed to hear this song once, which was at the end of the movie as they drive away down Central Park south

ooh ...

We Take Care of Our Own traces the evolution of Bruce Springsteen's beliefs, beginning with his New Jersey childhood and ending with his most recent works from Springsteen on Broadway to Letter to You. The author follows the singer's life, examining his albums and a variety of influences (both musical and nonmusical), especially his Catholic upbringing and his family life, to show how he became an outspoken icon for working-class America--indeed for working-class life throughout the world. In this way, the author emphasizes the universality of Springsteen's canon and depicts how a working-class sensibility can apply to anyone anywhere who believes in fairness and respect. In addition, the author places Springsteen in the historical context not only of literature (especially John Steinbeck) but also of the art world (specifically the work of Thomas Hart Benton and Edward Hopper). Among the themes explored in the book include community, a sense of place, America as the Promised Land, the myth of the West, and, ultimately, mortality.

About the Author: Born in Glasgow, Scotland, June Sawyers is the author or editor of more than thirty books, including Racing in the Street: The Bruce Springsteen Reader (Penguin), Reading the Beatles (Penguin), Tougher than the Rest: The 100 Best Bruce Springsteen Songs (Omnibus), Long Walk Home: Reflections on Bruce Springsteen (Rutgers)