Ut c/d, s/d

I didn't think this when it came out -- it seemed a bit too clenched and I was secretly a little disappointed -- but I think that I do think this now.

"Went out" isn't right though, they still tour now and then!

the drummer makes a big difference to the feel of the music. not sure who he was, looks like he also played with the pastels at some point. saw them live a few times around this point. but that was as the usual three piece all swapping instruments between songs

Griller was the first one I bought and I was a little disappointed with it at first, probably because all I knew about them was they were a "no wave" band, and I expected them to sound like Teenage Jesus & The Jerks or something. I bought Early Live Life next which was a bit more like that. of course I grew to love Griller after I'd listened to it a few times

faintly wondering if "charlie dinsdale" (= the drummer on several tracks, tho not all) is maybe actually a pseudonym, for some arcane in-indie industry reason

if not, the pastels and ut is a p strong CV lol, he shd be inducted into RaRHoF

i mean he's just "charlie d" on the LP sleeve but discogs says it"s "charlie dinsdale"

fwiw it looks like the only Pastels release he was on was their collab with Jad Fair, which might make it more likely it's the same person

I didn't think this when it came out -- it seemed a bit too clenched and I was secretly a little disappointed -- but I think that I do think this now.

"Went out" isn't right though, they still tour now and then!