Ringfinger remains one of my favorite tracks from PHM. Its production is singular. I have long been a bit of a lyrical apologist for that album, most of the songs on it exhibit some form of "juvenalia".
― octobeard, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:49 (one month ago) link
(it also made my ballot too)
"If I was twice the man I could be I'd still be half of what you need" is a great Reznorian equation. If Ringfinger had sounded more like the live versions from the period heard on live bootlegs it'd have made my ballot and been pretty high up.
― Lemon Kitten (Dan.S.), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:04 (one month ago) link
link to a good example?? very curious
― octobeard, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:14 (one month ago) link
Even Deeper was my #3... for some reason I thought it was certainly going to make the top 30 :(
― ashamed, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:46 (one month ago) link
love the outro, hate the "naa naa, na-na-na naaaaghghgh"
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:55 (one month ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaZKus4NN4
Ringfinger live in 91. I love the songs on PHM but the live versions do it much more for me. A large part of this being the audio quality of the bootlegs: I've got a major weak spot for drum machines swathed in tape hiss.
― Lemon Kitten (Dan.S.), Thursday, 25 April 2024 18:49 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/euHH1Tz.jpeg42. ReptileReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994144 points, 5 votersStudio versionRadio performance with Peter Murphy, 2006
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 21:46 (one month ago) link
unpopular opinion maybe but i still really love this song, one of my favorites on DS because of the way it fits into the narrative etc
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2024 21:47 (one month ago) link
and that Peter Murphy version is so good
https://i.imgur.com/bCrK1MA.jpeg41. All Time LowReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013150 points, 5 votersStudio versionLive 2013
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:01 (one month ago) link
“Reptile” was a very late cut from my ballot - the arrangement is top-tier but that are a few TDS tunes which I feel match it but where I like the song more.
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:09 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/UW7MyAW.jpeg40. That's What I GetReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989158 points, 4 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:14 (one month ago) link
this is another on pretty hate machine that i was surprised that it was as high as it was
This is second tier PHM for me only because I find it a bit whiny
“All Time Low” is monumental
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:15 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/23CGtTy.jpeg39. The Big Come DownReleased on The Fragile, 1999162 points, 5 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio versionLive 2008Live 2013
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:25 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/oknaqQM.jpeg38. HurtReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994168 points, 7 votersStudio versionLive 1995Live 2006Live 2008Live 2013
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:34 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/y6xTg6r.jpeg37. Various Methods of EscapeReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013190 points, 5 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:44 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/TDEr4q0.jpeg36. God Break Down the DoorReleased on Bad Witch, 2018192 points, 6 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:54 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/vZZ4a3e.jpeg33. Copy of AReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013194 points, 9 votersStudio versionLive 2013
https://i.imgur.com/dF8PR7I.jpeg33. She's Gone AwayReleased on Not The Actual Events, 2016194 points, 6 votersStudio version
https://i.imgur.com/fokLep3.jpeg33. The Background WorldReleased on Add Violence, 2017194 points, 6 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:04 (one month ago) link
i thought Hurt might be higher but i guess maybe everyone thought that collectively & didn’t place it higher lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:07 (one month ago) link
oh "she's gone away" is from and not the actual events, i should have caught that
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:08 (one month ago) link
no 'and' in the title either
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:09 (one month ago) link
i'm not really surprised by hurt being this low it's just ultimately not that interesting
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:10 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/JhQde0O.jpeg32. EverythingReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013198 points, 5 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:14 (one month ago) link
now this is one i was not expecting
https://i.imgur.com/J7Tfjp3.jpeg31. OnlyReleased on With Teeth, 2005218 points, 7 votersStudio versionMusic videoLive 2006Live 2008
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:24 (one month ago) link
31. Only - 218 points, 7 voters32. Everything - 198 points, 5 voters33. Copy of A - 194 points, 9 voters33. She's Gone Away - 194 points, 6 voters33. The Background World - 194 points, 6 voters36. God Break Down the Door - 192 points, 6 voters37. Various Methods of Escape - 190 points, 5 voters38. Hurt - 168 points, 7 voters39. The Big Come Down - 162 points, 5 voters, 1 #1 vote40. That's What I Get - 158 points, 4 voters41. All Time Low - 150 points, 5 voters42. Reptile - 144 points, 5 voters43. Burn - 140 points, 5 voters43. Every Day Is Exactly The Same - 140 points, 4 voters45. Ringfinger - 138 points, 4 voters, 1 #1 vote46. I Do Not Want This - 136 points, 5 voters47. The Hand That Feeds - 134 points, 6 voters48. Sanctified - 124 points, 4 voters49. The Great Destroyer - 116 points, 6 voters49. Shit Mirror - 116 points, 3 voters51. Even Deeper - 112 points, 3 voters51. Leaving Hope - 112 points, 4 voters53. This Isn't the Place - 110 points, 5 voters53. Suck - 110 points, 6 voters53. Less Than - 110 points, 6 voters56. Running - 106 points, 3 voters57. Dead Souls - 102 points, 3 voters58. Kinda I Want To - 98 points, 2 voters59. The Only Time - 96 points, 3 voters60. In This Twilight - 88 points, 5 voters
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:25 (one month ago) link
I’m a high “That’s What I Get” voter, mostly because it’s a clear precursor to “We Share Our Mother’s Health”. Totally agree that it’s whiny, which doesn’t bother me since Trent as producer >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trent as vocalist >> Trent as lyricist and I pay attention accordingly.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:52 (one month ago) link
Hmmm that lineage does make sense to me - Dreijer really has built a career out of flying the flag for post-PFM dance pop.
Has Reznor ever messed with Caribbean drums?
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:54 (one month ago) link
I don't dislike "Everything", exactly, but it's definitely one of the few tracks on Hesitation Marks that I didn't consider voting for at any stage.
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:56 (one month ago) link
*post-PHM
ooh yeah i definitely hear how it could have inspired "we share our mother's health" but those synths are really the only bit i care about
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:56 (one month ago) link
i appreciate that "everything" sounds a bit like new order in places but it's just uncanny and doesn't really have enough going on
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:59 (one month ago) link
all uncanny, no valley
― Tim F, Friday, 26 April 2024 00:18 (one month ago) link
i do really like "all time low", that's my favourite off hesitation marks. it really goes on a journey in the same way as a lot of tracks from the fragile do.
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 00:36 (one month ago) link
Definitely thought "Only" would be top 20. I'm guessing the top 20 will be mostly 80s/90s cuts then
― Vinnie, Friday, 26 April 2024 00:59 (one month ago) link
i love everything. i didn’t vote for it and it’s a little obviously “the track we recorded for the greatest hits we ended up not putting out” but it’s like… the most free nin track, completely untethered from most of the things that keep reznor’s work anchored to the ground, let’s just do a fuckin emo synth rock track who cares
― ivy., Friday, 26 April 2024 01:02 (one month ago) link
“all time low” is one of the best things he’s ever done. the “stretch across the sky coda” is just one factor… there’s also:
HEY
EVERYTHING IS NOT OK
― ivy., Friday, 26 April 2024 01:03 (one month ago) link
Yeah I like that take on "Everything" - I certainly appreciate its existence
― Tim F, Friday, 26 April 2024 01:11 (one month ago) link
I think it’s great! I love how different the vibe is v the rest of his stuff. The still I used was from a video they made for it that they shelved after finishing. Trent said it was because they weren’t happy with how it turned out, but apparently at the time the song was not as popular with fans as they’d expected - which also might have had something to do with it.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 26 April 2024 02:15 (one month ago) link
fans HATED it. they still do
― ivy., Friday, 26 April 2024 02:26 (one month ago) link
i think it's a bit out of place on hesitation marks and one of the weaker tracks but i don't hate it, it just doesn't really feel like it's as good as it could be
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 02:28 (one month ago) link
Does “Only” remind anyone else (even a little) if Sheryl Crow’s biggest hit? Not note for note or anything, but both melodically and rhythmically. Sort of a weird echo, like how you can close your eyes listening to certain Weeknd tracks and make pretend that Tracy Chapman’s voice never changed and then she took some interesting lyrical detours
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 April 2024 03:02 (one month ago) link
…. has anyone made this mashup
― ivy., Friday, 26 April 2024 03:04 (one month ago) link
“Only” is one of those songs that I just can’t help but sing along with, even if I didn’t intend to (I know the words to a whole lot of NIN songs but it’s not like I sing along to “Closer” or “Sin”)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 April 2024 03:06 (one month ago) link
"all i wanna do (dfa mix)"
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 03:09 (one month ago) link
Props to whomever put The Big Come Down as their number 1. That's such an underrated track and one of the best on The Fragile.
― octobeard, Friday, 26 April 2024 07:58 (one month ago) link
I had Hurt at #4. As I was playing tds again for the first time in years a thought flashed into my head, one of those random notions that you immediately know is nonsense - that it was a novelty song, a bonus track, even a cover of a johnny cash song?! Anyway when it came on I realised it's just a fucking great song.
I still haven't really delved into the EPs and I didn't vote for The Background World but that slowly disintegrating 7 minute outro is *chef's kiss*
great images btw thermo.
― ledge, Friday, 26 April 2024 08:03 (one month ago) link
That 'The Big Come Down' number one was me.
Ranked it first to help boost it's chances of placing highly, but arguably my favourite nonetheless. A great example of the amazing sound design going on throughout The Fragile, which might be my personal favourite production wise - although from that point on it's all quite consistent on that front. The guitar solo/break in 'The Big Come Down' easily one of my top NIN moments.
― Internet Alan, Friday, 26 April 2024 09:31 (one month ago) link