this is the thread for the Allman Brothers Band, because there hasn't been an all-encompassing one yet

rip dickey

i guess that just leaves jaimoe

In Memory of Dickey Betts

RIP

Rip
Headlining tonight at the great Fillmore gig in the sky with his brothers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8KxCdESrCE

Wow, I didn't know that the notorious Grover Lewis "On The Road With The Allmans" piece in Rolling Stone ran alongside the last part of Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas. '70s Hedonism at its finest.

https://www.duaneallman.info/hittingthenote.htm

great time capsule, thanks for that

Got The Allman Brothers Band and Eat a Peach on CD today, the two of them for $5. Wasn't sure if I had the first or not--I do, on a double-album reissue of their first two LPS. Really like "Dreams"; the rest, not especially.

I've never owned Eat a Peach, though I have a few songs on a Duane Allman compilation. The CD reissue (single CD) is rearranged from the original album: "Mountain Jam" is one song halfway through--like most of it, except for the pointless drum solo (if you're not a drummer, does anyone like any drum solo ever?)--so the CD closes with "Little Martha." Which would be in the running for greatest album-closer ever, if it actually had been. Also love "Blue Sky."

The version of the debut album on the Beginnings compilation you had is a remix of the original. I don't know whether the CD contains that remix or the original mix.
That first album is my favourite Allmans release, it's got just enough "Whipping Post" to keep my attention.

It kinda still is the last tune as ‘Mountain Jam’ on LP was on side 2 and 4, so you could line up the two parts on a record player with an auto play without having to flip the record.

I like the nascent Southern Rock side of them much more than the '60s Blues Band side.

The regular CD of the debut includes the original mix, and IIRC the Beginnings CD retains the remix, which is a little less 'Psychedelic'.

From https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/allman-brothers-band-very-different-mixes-beginnings.359878/

A few examples of differences.
It's Not My Cross To Bear - 1969 mix fades out and then comes back in to hear the closing...1973 remix fades out but no reprise.
Trouble No More - 1969 mix has dry sounding drums in the intro...remix has some reverb on the drums.
Every Hungry Woman- 1969 mix has just the guitar in the first few seconds, remix also has a hi-hat in the intro.
Dreams - 1969 mix, organ is more to the left, remix has the organ more centered and the mix is more 'open'.
Whipping Post -1969 mix, bass is in left channel, also song fades out and you barely hear the end...remix, the bass is more centered and the ending comes to a cold stop.

I like the nascent Southern Rock side of them much more than the '60s Blues Band side.

opposite

i mean the southern rock is fine, but they were doing something special before they were reduced to that

"Reduced"? "Blue Sky" and "Jessica" are beautiful.

they're fine

i'd rather someone was around to drag dickey back to 'in memory of elizabeth reed' tho

It makes no sense to me to say someone's reduced to doing something they're in the process of inventing. Babe Ruth was reduced to hitting home runs.

for a minute there the allmans were making something entirely new out of rock and blues and jazz and country. but 'blue sky' and 'jessica' were not part of that

lol i am trying desperately to make a suitable baseball comp but failing -- i'll get back to you <3

What I was trying to do there was get you to say "Jesus, it's annoying to have someone start nitpicking about the stupidest stuff imaginable." Didn't work.

You're both right!

Duane was clearly and objectively one of rock's great musical innovators. And the ABB, like Butterfield Blues Band circa East West, pointed to new (and sadly unrealized) possibilities for rock that could encompass more than just boring blues jams. Gregg was admittedly no slouch, to say nothing of the rest of the group, who were all, like, E Street Band-level players.

But Dickey, unlike anyone else in the Allman Brothers, wrote legitimately great and timeless songs (see clemenza's examples above), and I do wonder if this band would even be remembered much today if not for the "hits."

Of course, they'd probably still be remembered by me, because they were my dad's favorite band!

I like the nascent Southern Rock side of them much more than the '60s Blues Band side.

They had a nice "growth curve" from 1969 to 1973, despite their well-known problems. There are certainly several songs on the subsequent records that are better than most of the debut, but I like that first record for its power and brevity (the whole thing is shorter than the entirety of "Mountain Jam"). In fact, I'd probably call it the best blues-rock record of 1969 - less gimmicky than Zeppelin, and blowing stuff like Ten Years After and Canned Heat out of the water both in terms of songs and playing.

TIL that Steve Alaimo has a writing credit on and apparently owned the publishing for ages, apparently because Gregg was short of money and Steve paid him $250 for it. Crazy.

on "Melissa" I meant to see

To say

Reductio ad absurdium of typos

I was so bent on not typing "Sweet" I left out "Melissa" as well.

He needed the bread to pay for a plane ticket to LA!

It happens

the gypsy flies from coast to coast

No one knows the coke dealer’s name

the gypsy flies from coast to coast

It happens

Betts solo debut, Highway Call(1974) is his most ABBesque, in terms of lyricism x drive, esp. w Vassar Clements (slide x bow, yow)
http://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nTh3BAxIGfNoBo4er4-mppj5UJ3kJx4bk

What! Need to hear

Yeah great description

First track totally sounds like “Ramblin’ Man,” which I mean in the best possible way

This is good, thanks!

Spirit, you are resurrected a settled woman

Ha, yeah, this is like, at the Dead's studio peak, we also got Bob Weir's Ace. A stash of dandy little tunes, and road trip w "Hand Picked."
Wiki reminds me:

All tracks composed by Dickey Betts, except "Kissimmee Kid" by Vassar Clements.

Wasn’t Vassar also playing with Garcia around this time?

Imagining a hot Betts / Garcia duel, that would be the shit

Welp since you mentioned it, here's what I found so far, mostly Dead w Allmans at Watkins Glen (also incl. Duane w Dead in 1970
http://music.youtube.com/search?q=Grateful+Dead+Dickey+Betts)

Most specifically, here's a Watkins Glen soundboard of GD w Merle Saunders, Betts and Trucks:
https//music.youtube.com/watch?v=MDW-q6ZMTC8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDW-q6ZMTC8

xxp Yeah, Vassar was in Old And In The Way.

And maybe some other Garcia bands?

‘87 “Dylan Duane and the Dead” tour

“Dylan Duane Dickey and Dead”

"...Featuring Gregg"

Gregg only comes out during “midnight rider.” Other songs are instrumentals

Reminds me: that last Gregg album is really good! Actually doesn't suck, and then some.

“I’m no angle?”