Udio, an AI song generator website

Motown version of the skibidi toilet song

https://www.udio.com/songs/uTEPiTCCGb69YhRozG47Pw

Yes, this needed to exist.

https://www.udio.com/songs/hFtsYrU8RckreScNN28Y9o

a music lawyer friend of mine informs me that this site is "illegal", just noting that here, I asked for more details

ah here:

"Trained on copyrighted materials without permission, attribution, or payment."

there's also this

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/udio-ai-music-chatgpt-suno-1235001675/

So, like every other AI?

meh, paywalled....

try this - https://web.archive.org/web/20240416155532/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/udio-ai-music-chatgpt-suno-1235001675/

(it doesn't seem like the legality of being trained on copyrighted material is actual settled law yet, but will be soon)

I’m sure they’ll win the battle against a technology they don’t quite understand this time.

the tech is pretty simple aiui (although resource-intensive), it's a plagiarism machine that scrapes the internet for data

Sure that’s how ai works but given a large pool of data that spits out things that faintly resemble something but it’s something new how can you argue plagiarism?

AI is analyzing thousands of songs from every genre and learning what are the main aesthetics of each one. If AI takes 1000 country songs from different artists to learn about it and do something that doesn’t sound exactly like the source should those 1000 country artists get a paycut?

according to the lawyers I know, the answer is "yes"

also I don't think it's "something new" by any remote stretch of the imagination, more like a very clever mashup

I figure most human songwriters have learned their craft through studying copyrighted material

not the same, come the fuck on

gotta unbookmark this, y'all are fucking credulous

this is something to play around with for a few days
it's not going to replace music
who gives a fuck about its legality

I think not this specifically, but something technically comparable could replace sampling similar to how Dr. Dre re-recorded samples (apparently to avoid paying more for them -- though don't you still have to pay for covering sample-length snippets?)

Thought the unspoken rule of the thread was that this is stupid and evil and probably illegal, but let's have a laugh with it anyway.

Yeah at this point is more of a novelty tbh, the legal aspect of it should be studied for when it inevitably gets improved but I suppose the better it gets the harder it will be to actually trace what the source is.

I don’t think it will change real music considerably. It will likely be used as a tool for inspiration or as samples and will be a battle uphill.

There are a lot of venues where the people paying kind of don't want "real" music, but rather Muzak (supermarkets, waiting rooms, soundtracks, etc...) and to the extent that this continues the shrinking of music-related side gigs, maybe Jimmy Fallon replacing The Roots with a laptop will mark the turning point, though I guess the question is who loses their job first, Questlove or Jimmy?

who wrote about the relation between scarcity and pleasure? Like, once these things can churn out 100 insanely good albums by (favorite artist of your choice), will that just fuck everything up like explaining a joke?

What it will do (depending on how it is monetized) is completely decimate the library music business, before long.

i mean, everyone is going to think it's no big deal until it comes for their particular gig

Probably wasn't a good idea for most of the music industry to pump out stuff that already sounds like it was made by A.I.

That’s a dick response

thanks

Thought the unspoken rule of the thread was that this is stupid and evil and probably illegal, but let's have a laugh with it anyway.

― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

yeah i'm kinda surprised that there's any debate about this, tbh, the art spaces i come with it's been established in detail why ai art trained on copyrighted art is bad and should be illegal. someone can probably link to a video or an essay or something explaining it in depth, i don't know one offhand.

Well I hope this one will make everyone happy

https://www.udio.com/songs/eNuQmiCLyYBUMkPqdKgJiQ

I agree those are the worst lawyers

Once you extend the tunes they're often not so great with endings but it managed a decent one here, a prog punk song about spaceflight.

https://www.udio.com/songs/noXyZzdDUYkGHkfd1gTTus

yeah i'm kinda surprised that there's any debate about this, tbh, the art spaces i come with it's been established in detail why ai art trained on copyrighted art is bad and should be illegal. someone can probably link to a video or an essay or something explaining it in depth, i don't know one offhand.

Two key issues: this is meaningless without a definition of “AI” and, if you define “AI” as “supervised learning,” artists like and have been using supervised learning methods (likely unaware) for more than a decade. Lawyers are the least serious people about this issue.

P much done with this shit, deleted everything I did and created one final recording, a six minute Broadway musical based on utter gibberish I fed it

https://www.udio.com/songs/qyKFUkDLAvdSDSDL3KT3Fz

Holy shit

Put this in the ILX best of 2024 poll, I want to see the reactions to people coming across it blind

This is one of the worst things I've heard in my life jesus https://www.udio.com/songs/2LKznbCzDFYBSmCtzqPRDG

On the other hand this one turned out pretty well. https://www.udio.com/songs/9aewPs85B1SompcaU3Njb9

My general view of this is that it's a fun gimmick, and scarily "realistic", but typing an idea of what you want to hear into a prompt box and it coming out the other end will never match the thrill of hearing exactly what you want to hear being done by a band and knowing other people exist in the world who are thinking in the same way as you

completely. that's why I did the experiment of writing that garbage, because I knew it'd never be able to make coherent music with it and it's attempt to create it would be funny. but having it put together actual songs, the results got very disappointing over time. especially the 'heavy metal' voices used which are always terrible

the thrill of hearing exactly what you want to hear being done by a band

I sent my lyrics and style suggestions to Dave Matthews and I'm still fucking waiting.

An old friend (whose taste in music I do not share, to be fair) has made a full ai-generated song with music video and it's genuinely one of the worst things I've ever heard.

the friend's name was....

...Jedward

I want to share it but you all have to promise not to write mean comments.

Steven Wilson did that lmao

Does anyone know if there is an AI tool that specializes in creating instrumental parts for existing music? Like something that could generate a horn section based on a piece of music uploaded? You'd think that would be easy based on all of the other stupid horseshit we can do. Can't we have something practical?

can somebody please make a version of the family guy theme song in the style of '73 pink floyd, like along the lines or "breathe"?

Sorry, I just used all my credits for today making an early 2000s dance pop version of Throbbing Gristle's 'Hamburger Lady"

made a blues song where some asshole in the audience keeps interrupting and asking questions about details in the lyrics

https://www.udio.com/songs/7gkuMX53JkniHUnj9p8QAx

lmao okay that one is funny

This is freaky. Does it sound SO much like GBV with these prompts, because there are just so many GBV songs to scrape from?
https://www.udio.com/songs/pxtsMWZNVEfG5hSpDQbAaA

Gettin' sued

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/06/24/suno-lawsuit-udio-sony-warner-umg-copyright/