This album would definitely land VERY differently for me without The Waiting right up top. I'll withhold overall judgment til the end, but I'm wondering, what's the basic narrative behind it? I know about the label feud concerning its pricing, but was it something they started working on before DTT fully took off? A rushed set of sessions amidst a frantic tour schedule as their star quickly rose? A blank-check luxuriation in the studio? And how did it land with critics at the time?
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 13 April 2024 13:26 (two years ago)
It did well critically and commercially. I still rate it as one of his top five best.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 April 2024 13:34 (two years ago)
Haven't read the linked story (paywalled, but accessable via in cognito tab), but should be of interest
Tom Petty made his first Rolling Stone cover in 1981. This is the cover story: https://t.co/JqpZj3t8Fo pic.twitter.com/Lg8P61da36— Richard Deitsch (@richarddeitsch) October 2, 2017
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 April 2024 14:22 (two years ago)
i like how in that interview i posted way up there somewhere tom says he thought that after he made a big stink about record prices that other artists would rally around him and nobody did! haha! oops.
― scott seward, Saturday, 13 April 2024 14:24 (two years ago)
Does anyone know how much of this stuff was played live in the early days, up to or around the first album? I assume Petty and cohort ran into the problem a lot of bands face, with a backlog of bangers they burn through before suddenly facing the challenge of writing new stuff between tours, with the distracting pull/perils of success beckoning and the label breathing down their necks.
Oh man I am gonna be insufferable with Long After Dark, fair warning.
Featuring some of my fave Petty album tracks, and iirc Springsteen's favorite Petty song, at least at the time.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 April 2024 14:46 (two years ago)
JiC, that's what I've been wondering about. This album has been feeling like "somewhat underwritten material, but the band is really on fire from steady touring." I'm enjoying each track on some level, mind you, it's just feeling a little easier for me to find flaws. (So I hope I'm not coming off as a nit-picker to those who love this record wholeheartedly!)
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 13 April 2024 15:17 (two years ago)
Does anyone know how much of this stuff was played live in the early days, up to or around the first album?
To confirm my suspicion I just looked at thepettyarchives.com and early setlists include only songs from the debut, YGGI, and covers (i've always loved the way they do "Cry to Me"). Mid-1978 DtT songs get added to sets. My suspicion was that Hard Promises was kinda written on the fly. Not until June 1981 do Hard Promises' tunes show up.xpost
― gneiss, gneiss, very gneiss (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 14 April 2024 18:11 (two years ago)
Letting You Go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzIG1KYBTDs
― scott seward, Monday, 15 April 2024 11:39 (two years ago)
i have no memory of that being a video. i will make no great claims for this song. some good lines. i like the summer house mention.
― scott seward, Monday, 15 April 2024 11:40 (two years ago)
The video is really cute! And genuinely funny. Nice fit for this lightweight, goes-down-easy tale of woe. One of my favorite cuts on this album so far.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 April 2024 12:00 (two years ago)
this is pleasant. another one that wouldn't be out of place on a j geils band record. the bridge goes to unexpected melodic places. has there been a TP song yet with a satisfying relationship?
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 15 April 2024 12:26 (two years ago)
Here Comes My Girl and The Waiting, right? And Listen to Her Heart, depending on how you think things are gonna turn out.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 April 2024 14:21 (two years ago)
j geils-y for sure, but i think john mellencamp was taking notes when writing "jack & diane"
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 April 2024 16:00 (two years ago)
sounds a bit like an updated buddy holly track
― that's not my post, Monday, 15 April 2024 16:59 (two years ago)
I like the guitar sound.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 April 2024 16:59 (two years ago)
"Letting You Go": Yeah, trying out the J. Geils AM Gold Soul thing. Is that a buried harpsichord or mandolin under the middle-8? Tench's organ is very River-era E-Street Band.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 April 2024 19:19 (two years ago)
Mike and Tom might have the best collective meat-n-potatoes tone in classic rock and roll. You can hear every year of their vintage amps and guitars.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 April 2024 19:27 (two years ago)
A happy Tom Petty birthday to Ilxor Sang Freud today!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4ygBn6NJM
― scott seward, Monday, 15 April 2024 21:25 (two years ago)
whoa thanks!!!! it is not really my birthday -- who knows what i might have put in whatever profile you're looking at -- but this will last me all the way to 8/26.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 15 April 2024 21:51 (two years ago)
those midnight specials are great. i've been feasting on them. i don't really remember them going up to 1978. maybe they didn't run them in ny?
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 15 April 2024 21:53 (two years ago)
I didn't know this:
The series was canceled by NBC at the request of Dick Ebersol as part of a deal for him to take over the then-ailing Saturday Night Live. Because there was no time for NBC to develop a new show from scratch in light of the urgent SNL situation, The Midnight Special was replaced by SCTV, a weekly Canadian sketch comedy series performed by members of the Toronto satellite of Chicago's The Second City improvisational troupe. That program, in turn, would later be replaced with another music show, Friday Night Videos, in 1983, also produced initially by Ebersol.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 April 2024 22:08 (two years ago)
zzz
― calstars, Monday, 15 April 2024 22:08 (two years ago)
Wanna be astounded? Friday Night Videos *ran until 2002* (the last few years it was strictly a comedy show)
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 April 2024 22:12 (two years ago)
haha i only know facebook time!
― scott seward, Monday, 15 April 2024 22:25 (two years ago)
it seems like they are being more generous with whole episodes on Youtube of the MS. i am all for it. i think they actually wanted people to pay for them. or still do. reminds me of that dumb wolfgang's vault from way back. which might still be a thing, i don't know.
― scott seward, Monday, 15 April 2024 22:28 (two years ago)
A Thing About You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZquPbwmDa4
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:10 (two years ago)
peppy!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:11 (two years ago)
i like it! this would have made a nice album track on either of the first two lps.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:11 (two years ago)
Underappreciated gem, this one. Great buzzy little rocker. Never a single as far as I know but I definitely heard it on rock radio now and again.
Plus, Emmylou Harris and Southern Pacific had a top 20 country hit with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PyGRzmAoqQ
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:52 (two years ago)
nice one, has a bit of Marshall Crenshaw sound on the chorus.
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:58 (two years ago)
"thing about you" is one of the most "what if buddy holly lived and made music in the 1980s" songs ever and i love it
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:18 (two years ago)
I like the Southern Pacific + Harris cover!
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:33 (two years ago)
I had totally forgot about this very solid and enjoyable song! peppy, yes. Petty's breathless delivery of the chorus injects a hint of urgency beyond what's there in the lyrics.
apparently Southern Pacific got on the country chart with their own cover in 1985, and then again with the Harris duet in 1990. i like the vocals, but for me both versions are hampered by that increasingly airless, blank "karaoke track" sound, increasingly sought after by country producers in those days.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:28 (two years ago)
Insider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7bjXWzms5I
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:30 (two years ago)
He and Nicks harmonize like pros.
He wrote for Bella Donna but at the last minute asked for it back.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:33 (two years ago)
*wrote it
why do i love it when an album title comes from the lyrics of a song that is not a title track? i just do.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:34 (two years ago)
i guess i came around to adult contemporary when i realized it was just power pop with pretensions. nice tune. he crawled through the briars?
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:45 (two years ago)
https://sharonsflorida.com/plants-page/native-vines/smilax-in-central-florida/
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:47 (two years ago)
oof -- looks prickly.
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:54 (two years ago)
"why do i love it when an album title comes from the lyrics of a song that is not a title track? i just do."
same!!! it always feels special when that lyric comes around.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 12:50 (two years ago)
otm
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:32 (two years ago)
"insider" is one of my absolute fav petty deep cuts
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:33 (two years ago)
Lynch makes this song for me. A lot of lesser artists would have let it be just a mellow strum-and-sing, and the vocals (Petty and Nicks both) are great, but Lynch practically taking a drum solo through the whole goddamn thing is what elevates it.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:38 (two years ago)
The humility of the performances impresses me, from the instrumental fills to Petty and Nicks never soloing or jumping over each other's lines.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:40 (two years ago)
yes the restraint and tension are perfectly balanced
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:57 (two years ago)
"you've got a dangerous background," what a great opening line
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:59 (two years ago)
this was the period when iirc Nicks was begging Petty to admit her as a Heartbreaker; astounded, he said she couldn't because "you're a girl."
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:06 (two years ago)
Petty and Nicks never soloing or jumping over each other's lines
otm. they were so goddamn good together. their sensibilities blend so perfectly. loooooove this song. love that turn in the last verse: "i'll bet you're his masterpiece / i'll bet you're his self-control."
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:56 (two years ago)
has a bit of Marshall Crenshaw sound on the chorus.
very otm re "thing about you."
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:57 (two years ago)