rolling punk rock 2024

^^ rules, thanks!

i am loving this gobs video and need more

ask and ye shall receive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0QXhVEeFW0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-10vpUn8WE

thank you! i'm also loving the "awful" tape on deluxe bias

Gosh, I always love Deluxe Bias, and that was no exception (though I feel like they missed an opportunity to call it 4 Awful Songs).

I enjoyed this new Unlawful Assembly tape by Youth in Asia with coffee this morning. Terrible name! But some good, funny vocals and great riffs and overall appealing feel.

https://unlawfulassembly.bandcamp.com/album/youth-in-asia-nuclear-waste-abomination

punk bands to come up with an original band name [IMPOSSIBLE]

fuck's sake there are 14 of them on discogs, but this is one I know https://www.discogs.com/artist/399717-Youth-In-Asia-2

let the record show that there is only one "The Gobs" on discogs ;)

I admit I am not as into this strain of punk. In some ways, a lot of the sounds that I enjoy in the punk/hc realm are overwhelmingly similar to the sounds that I enjoyed most as a teenager— grind, thrash, and Orange County hc alongside stuff like Born Against is my sort of sweet spot. Snotty punk a la the Gobs is fun live, but I never listen to it.

yah u are way more metal/grind oriented than me, I'm a sucker for the "dorky melodies buried in distortion" thing

thankfully we live in times of such bounty that there is enough great punk for everyone!

ILX punk McCarthy hearings where everyone has to state if they are an egg punk or chain punk

lol

I do not get the Uranium Club album at all, somebody give me a good track to try besides the first one

wrt distorted dorky melodies vs grind/thrash/hc I am v much "why not both?"

<3

Can’t speak to the new one but their older stuff always reminded me of Wire and occasionally of 100 Flowers/The Urinals

wrt distorted dorky melodies vs grind/thrash/hc I am v much "why not both?"

fair! I am the reverse, pretty much, although straight oldschool pre-metal HC can still enthrall me at times

I am from the generation of hardcore kids where metal was just beginning to make inroads, I especially was deeply suspicious of it and snobby about it too. I viewed DRI's "Crossover" as a personal betrayal, lol.

table iirc your era was the era where emo was considered the "enemy", yeah? the white-belt kids of the early 2000s?

I guess mine would've been the Epifat type of NOFX-clone skate punk, I basically only listened to 70s-mid-80s punk/hc in the late 90s because of that stuff. never went to any punk gigs either, I thought all "modern" punk was rubbish. thanks to the internet and file-sharing I now know there was good stuff happening all through that era I just missed it all

Sleeve, not sure this will do it for you, but this is one of the more straightforward rockers on the album.

https://staticshockrecords.bandcamp.com/track/abandoned-by-the-narrator

Admittedly the Uranium Club thing is pretty specific, easy to see it not working for lots of folks.

Uranium Club played here (Sydney) last night… I went along mainly to see RMFC who are always great… hadn’t really gelled with the Uranium Club I had heard prior but they were super fun - well-judged mix of smart and dumb, clever song structures (Wire mention above was OTM) - got the crowd going, a terrific night

I fuckin love RMFC, one of the best albums from last year.

speaking of RMFC:

https://totalpunkrecords.com/collections/frontpage/products/total-punk-order-of-the-dirty-plates-7-singles-club

"The bands included are: RMFC, CLASS, RETAIL SIMPS, TEE VEE REPAIRMANN, ITCHY & THE NITS, SPIRAL DUB, ALIEN NOSEJOB, and PUPPET WIPES."

I am from the generation of hardcore kids where metal was just beginning to make inroads, I especially was deeply suspicious of it and snobby about it too. I viewed DRI's "Crossover" as a personal betrayal, lol.

table iirc your era was the era where emo was considered the "enemy", yeah? the white-belt kids of the early 2000s?

so in other words: i have no idea what the white belt kids were/are, and i loathed emo… tho still have affection for the very early Orchid records and the first Boysetsfire record

somewhere in a closet in my parents’ house is a box with all of my punk CDs, which i might try to scrounge up one of these days.

last year i finally took back the box of nearly every Punk Planet ever published, from the 3rd issue to the final one

wow @ RMFC

they are so good, I love how the electric 12-string sounds in that mix

table that's super interesting, those are years I wasn't always paying attention to punk, mine is kinda like:

1982: first Sex Pistols album, first Clash concert (their last US tour)
1983: heavily into Joy Division, Siouxsie, Gang Of Four, postpunk in general
early '84: shift to Dead Kennedys/Black Flag, first actual HC show (JFA, Sun City Girls, Mighty Sphincter, local HC band)
late 84: DRI, Suicidal, Minor Threat, Minutemen, all of it
late '85: starting listening to TG, PTV, Coil, etc
86: Sonic Youth rules my world
87-96 or so: noise/experimental snob
97-2001: reminded that there are other good genres out there, diversification
2001-2007: we booked punk/HC shows at our house, Tragedy, Submission Hold, From Ashes Rise, all the hits. Faggot! Clan Of The Bleeding Eye! Realicide! fun times.
2008-2023: not much really, lotta record collector rock
end of 2023: friend plays me the Liquids album, I realize there is a ton of great stuff out there again, I start buying tapes by the dozens

I should also note that I always listened to Chumbawamba, Crass, Fugazi, and The Ex throughout this entire timeline

interesting to see your travels through it, too— interestingly it was in 99 that I bought Goo at a flea market and became obsessed with SY, and then that sort of helped me into other punk-adjacent but not punk music. i was also really into G!YBE and Windy & Carl in the early 2000s

Do we all go through a teen year or two where it feels wrong to listen to things not-punk? And is that the source of later exhortations that Mingus/Dylan/whatever *are* punk?

yes and yes imho

yes

I had to look to refresh my memory, my MRR years were 84-91. I still have them! I was also very into all the Olympia/PNW riot grrl/KRS/K stuff in the early/mid 90s. I do have some later stuff like heartattack, Slug & Lettuce, damn I wish I still had the Antipathy zines my friend Mike did.

have a lot of Slug and Lettuce issues!!

Is the Submission Hold that two folks have mentioned the Vancouver band? Because I had no idea they had any impact outside of our town. They used to throw a great house show.

yep! they were pretty big back in the day! one of our largest shows.

Loved them, saw them at one very memorable show in Detroit.

They were great. I still have a cassette of theirs from when they were orginally called Insult II Injury

Do we all go through a teen year or two where it feels wrong to listen to things not-punk? And is that the source of later exhortations that Mingus/Dylan/whatever *are* punk?

I will cosign this along with table and sleeve, but will also note that the notion of "punk is an attitude and not a genre," while cliched, is nevertheless very true. And on some level, my whole taste in music is kind of subconsciously founded on this, which is why I have opinions like "Louis Cole is punk." Feel free to dismiss, I was never a true punk anyhow.

irrational, they were huge here in Philly— all the crusty kids wanted to sound like Submission Hold, His Hero is Gone, or Anti-Product.

And on some level, my whole taste in music is kind of subconsciously founded on this

I wouldn't say *all* of it, but a lot of it. Like, do I think there is a connection between the snide and sneering rampages of Jello and the DKs to the cool cocaine cynicism of Steely Dan? Fuck yeah there is. The 'Dan are extremely punk...that's just one example, of course, but the point rings true to me.

that's awesome to hear. cool to see one of those bands I grew up going to see at house shows and such was actually much more popular than I ever knew

I was listening to Submission Hold today, strangely enough

I had college radio punker friends who would enthusiastically proclaim that acts like Springsteen and Billy Joel were punk as fuck. We didn't always agree, but I can see it, at least with Springsteen. One of those guys is now my brother in law so the arguments have lasted and evolved over the years.

always thought that punk is one of the most aesthetically conservative (resistant to change, highly deferential to its own traditions) and minimalist (three chords, four-four, guitar-drum-bass) music genres. i kinda like that about it, but imo it’s stolen valor when punks try to claim actually formally innovative music (mingus, steely dan)

Submission Hold was one of the best shows I've seen

They were great when I saw them, too, only once. I was 14!