when i left home as a kid i moved to Philly and got a job at a Saladalley restaurant at the Bourse across from the Liberty Bell. it was a local 80s chain with a big salad bar. i didn't have much money or even a real place to live - this was 1988 - and i would go to 3rd Street Jazz once a week and buy one Can album until i had most of them. it was a better education than college would have been. they had nice new German Spoon reissues on vinyl back then.
― scott seward, Friday, 15 March 2024 17:58 (two years ago)
when all is said and done, Tago Mago might be my fave Can album. but its hard to pick. i just don't pick usually. its easier that way.
― scott seward, Friday, 15 March 2024 17:59 (two years ago)
'Soon Over Babaluma' is cool, it sounds amazing. Everything has a nicely restrained dynamic to it, and the grooves and drumming are less traditional (no snares, hardly a backbeat to be found), but some of the tracks have a more conventional 'jamming' arc that I don't love?
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 15 March 2024 18:19 (two years ago)
Listening to 'Saw Delight' now and I wasn't expecting the reggae/ska/almost highlife vibes on some tracks. Interesting how conventional the drumming is compared to those other records. 'Animal Waves' would be a good one for the weirdo dj night.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 15 March 2024 18:32 (two years ago)
maybe it's too obvious as it was actually a hit but I Want More is my favourite post-Damo Can song, but I'm not that keen on Flow Motion as an album so maybe that's why nobody is mentioning it
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 15 March 2024 18:35 (two years ago)
then we were at a used record store and he asked me if i would buy him a SP best-of cd and i said no. no i wouldn't.
I would like to nominate scott for father of the year. You can make a difference people - start with your own kids!
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 15 March 2024 18:37 (two years ago)
xp Flow Motion is as good as the other post-Damo records mentioned above.
― Kim Kimberly, Friday, 15 March 2024 18:41 (two years ago)
cosign on Flow Motion, I really like it
Soon Over Babaluma is imho the best Can album-as-album
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 15 March 2024 18:49 (two years ago)
I only first heard the later Can records thirty years after I heard the 1968 to 1974 run, and I guess my low expectations had been built up so long that I was surprised at how pleasant Flow Motion and Saw Delight were. If I had been a Can fan when they came out, my reactions might have been more critical.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 15 March 2024 19:07 (two years ago)
I want more is my fav top of the pops performance ever
― nxd, Friday, 15 March 2024 19:22 (two years ago)
I won't go deep on Tago Mago, since it's so long and shaggy (all those cut-up jams). After my day of Can-listening the most inspiring have been Ege Bamyasi and Soon Over Babaluma (which I almost certainly hadn't heard before).
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 15 March 2024 19:41 (two years ago)
to revisit TM just jam "Halleluwah" real loud
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 15 March 2024 19:46 (two years ago)
and listen to "full moon on the highway" on Landed for a glimpse of an alternate universe where pop music was future music. or something like that.
― scott seward, Friday, 15 March 2024 19:48 (two years ago)
one great thing about Can is that yes, they have their peak and their later records aren't as great, but at least those records aren't failed attempts to capture the past or adventures in pop that don't work, they're mostly just fun and groovy, to a fault even. like Saw Delight is a really enjoyable record for a band that's past its prime.
― frogbs, Friday, 15 March 2024 19:53 (two years ago)
Morton Subotnick - Ascent Into Air/A Fluttering Of Wings
A Fluttering Of Wings as played by the Juilliard String Quartet and an ELECTRONIC GHOST SCORE is brittle and metallic and becomes sickly over time. Grandmother is not well. Ascent Into Air as played by Cal Arts Twentieth Century Players and written for 10 instruments and COMPUTER GENERATED SOUND is more approachable and shows the possibilities of combining computer sound with acoustic instruments. Get this: the possibilities are endless. There is a lot of tension here. And anxiety. Like too much coffee. Like a deadline approaching. But also the space and calm in between those moments of speedy aimlessness when you are trying to do three things at once. Then, finally, the Ambien kicks in. It is quite a ride.
These two pieces are from THE DOUBLE LIFE OF AMPHIBIANS. A staged tone poem with three parts. Amphibians, Beasts, and Angels. All from 1981. This recording is from 1984. On Nonesuch.
Okay, now i'm going to listen to some Motown 45s for an hour or two. Sheesh.
― scott seward, Friday, 15 March 2024 20:39 (two years ago)
lol
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 15 March 2024 20:40 (two years ago)
Side 2 of "Soon Over Babaluma" is the best music in the world.
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 15 March 2024 21:19 (two years ago)
jamming Saw Delight now and yeah its super fun, probably would be considered a classic if by most other bands. but I gotta say what's with Can going from having state-of-the-art production even when we know their equipment wasn't all that advanced to sounding like they were recording in a shoebox
― frogbs, Saturday, 16 March 2024 04:40 (two years ago)
I mean check out the bass/drum interplay in Animal Waves - Holger would never play like that so Jaki almost never plays as frenzied as he does here
― frogbs, Saturday, 16 March 2024 04:44 (two years ago)
Anyone want to recommend me something? Genres I know next-to-nothing about and am intrigued by: country, krautrock, drum and bass, yacht rock
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 12:16 (two years ago)
xp pretty sure “Animal Waves” became my go to when I want to a long Can track. Wonderful genre-jumping exercise.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 12:27 (two years ago)
I can recommend plenty of drum & bass but not sure which *album* to start with, you'd be much better off with tracks or mixes
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 13:04 (two years ago)
A.R. & Machines - Die Grüne Reise is the krautrock record that got me rolling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb4ERB8SRmM
― bendy, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 13:58 (two years ago)
I would start with the canonical artists - Can, Neu!, Faust, maybe Amon Duul II, for a more rock approach. Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Cluster for the electronic end of things.
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:02 (two years ago)
Krautrock is such a useless term though, especially these days.
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:03 (two years ago)
― a hoy hoy
For Country: Dillard & Clark, Waylon Jennings and Tony Joe White
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:15 (two years ago)
I’m actually not that well versed in Country music and I don’t pay much attention to lyrics which is one of the main points of Country music. So someone else might recommend you better things. I just really vibe with those three.
For albums
Dillard & Clark - The Fantastic ExpeditionWaylon Jennings - Ramblin Man (but he was on a roll in the 70’s, you can easily pick any other)Tony Joe White - this is a hard one… he doesn’t have a “great album” but there’s a brilliant pair of songs in mostly every album from him… he’s more of a swamp rock/country hybrid so maybe not what you’re looking for.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:28 (two years ago)
yea it's kinda funny none of the big Krautrock groups really sound alike at all, even the ones which share members. I think on one side there's the cosmic freakout/hard rock stuff and on another there's the 'motorik' sound. but Can is sort of a blend of the two, they're like an alien funk band I guess. then you have all the synthesizer stuff by Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze. hell I've even heard of Nektar referred to as Krautrock. I guess you can call anything Krautrock so long as it's from Germany.
however there is one album which I think encapsulates all of this - Tarot by Walter Wegmuller. you really wanna go off the deep end, give that a shot.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:37 (two years ago)
I would start with Faust IV
― let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:38 (two years ago)
Ironically, Nektar were British! Although they were formed in Germany to be fair so maybe it counts...?
― two-one-one-two (Matt #2), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:42 (two years ago)
outside of the fact that what they do is clearly progressive rock, yeah
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:44 (two years ago)
I'd never call it the best, but I think of the first Agitation Free record as a basic "starter"-type Krautrock record that touches on a lot of the styles and trends that other groups explored more thoroughly.
I believe the only drum-and-bass album I've heard is Malice in Wonderland by Rufige Kru (Goldie) and it didn't do me any harm.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:45 (two years ago)
A.R. & Machines - Die Grüne ReiseDillard & Clark - The Fantastic ExpeditionWaylon Jennings - Ramblin ManMalice in Wonderland by Rufige KruFaust IV
Will give all of these a go over the coming week, cheers.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:49 (two years ago)
Also yeah I know drum & bass isn't an album genre but it is one I wanted to dip my toe in the water of, and I was already on the thread.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:50 (two years ago)
You see, to me, Agitation Free are very West Coast US jam band influenced - not so much the first album but the second definitely.
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:50 (two years ago)
one thing I really do want is stuff that sounds like the first track on the debut Ash Ra Tempel album
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:51 (two years ago)
Can are undoubtedly the band that touch most bases.
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:52 (two years ago)
A hoy hoy, I recommend Photek's Form & Function, it's a bit of an outlier but that's what blew my head off as a kid.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:54 (two years ago)
Think a good starter D&B mix might be Kemistry & Storm - DJ Kicks from 1999 - though plenty has happened in the last quarter century too.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:54 (two years ago)
I listened to Powerslave by Iron Maiden. don't think that band is for me tbh. songs were too long, and I was expecting to at least like some riffs or something, but it was mostly pretty plodding and I expected it to rock a lot harder than it did. I thought Aces High was OK but that was about it
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:55 (two years ago)
if anyone on this board hasn't heard shiina ringo you should listen to her first three albums and report back
― ivy., Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:56 (two years ago)
Was thinking of trying out something Peter Hammill related since a frieds was going off on IG with Hammill memes. Suggestions on where to start welcome.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:57 (two years ago)
don't think that band is for me tbh. songs were too long, and I was expecting to at least like some riffs or something, but it was mostly pretty plodding and I expected it to rock a lot harder than it did.
This is me, except I listened to their first six albums, plus the lyrics are like Peter Hammill for twelve-year-olds.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:00 (two years ago)
um I had no idea there were Hammill memes on IG
my starting point was VDGG's H to He Who Am the Only One, which I think is probably their most accessible one (other than the debut which ain't *really* Van der Graaf Generator). from there probably Godbluff or Still Life. Pawn Hearts is often pointed to as their masterpiece but you really gotta be a proghead to appreciate that one.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:00 (two years ago)
i found h to he who am the only one to be a good vdgg gateway
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:00 (two years ago)
Peter Hammill, "The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage".
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:00 (two years ago)
I actually think "Pawn Hearts" IS the one to start with!
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:01 (two years ago)
I added the DJ Kicks and the first ringo on spotify (it has a cover that looks like a politician surrounded by press) to my playlist to listen to this week. F&F wasn't on spotify and im too lazy to search for it.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:03 (two years ago)
re: dnb mixes, i grabbed speed limit 140 bpm+ three: the joint bc its thread got bumped recently and it is delirium-inducing
― ivy., Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:03 (two years ago)
I heard Pawn Hearts first and appreciated it but didn't go any further for a long while because its weirdness is extreme. If someone is prejudiced against prog-rock styles then one of the later solo records like Sitting Targets might be a good entree.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:05 (two years ago)