i definitely thought of van morrison, partially the vocal but something about the tone of his voice in combination with the vibe of the song
the particular way he vamps on the last line of the song for 25 or 30 seconds has a very vanmo quality to it, though van, to be fair, might have gone on for more like 25 or 30 minutes.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 8 March 2024 04:45 (two years ago)
yeah Petty keeps a lid on that lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 March 2024 04:47 (two years ago)
Luna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fOKtWW8Xvo
― scott seward, Friday, 8 March 2024 12:26 (two years ago)
that is a weird song. i don't have any memory of that song. i love how he says the word "shiver" like a toddler.
― scott seward, Friday, 8 March 2024 12:31 (two years ago)
i have no recollection of this one either. maybe it's the onset of full moon fever? that break with the triplets on the keys doesn't really merit its multiple appearances.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 8 March 2024 12:38 (two years ago)
What a strange vocal.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2024 13:00 (two years ago)
"Mystery Man" is a nice groove and they play it well, again the song feels a little slight
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2024 14:44 (two years ago)
huh "Luna" is really odd! I like it though...the organ and weird little pomp breakdown in the middle is like...fuckin Procal Harum or something
like the least "Tom Petty" Tom Petty song I've ever heard
but i'm into it for some weird reason
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2024 14:47 (two years ago)
If "Breakdown" was an emulation or anticipation of Nicks-era Mac, the triplet rhythm and supernatural theme of this song makes me think of Bob Welch doing "Hypnotized".
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 March 2024 18:53 (two years ago)
This led me to check if Petty ever played a show with Boz Scaggs (apparently not).
Weird strings at the fadeout!
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:26 (two years ago)
out of curiosity, how would you check that? is there like a 1-page gigography that you can ctrl-f?
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:28 (two years ago)
Yep, right here!
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:49 (two years ago)
The intro/outro to Luna is so playful and great, and love the Christmas carol instrumental after the verses (whotf thought that was a good idea? Genius!) Would be a great soundtrack for a midnight Christmas eve drive home to your girlfriend/boyfriend.
Real strong juxtaposition of atmospheres in the three parts of this song. Not a stand out, but interesting enough to give your time to it with a smile
― H.P, Friday, 8 March 2024 23:15 (two years ago)
BTW these threads are so great. Always a pleasure to read through
― H.P, Friday, 8 March 2024 23:17 (two years ago)
kinda makes me think of The Band’s “Chest Fever” - Petty’s weird vocal spunds a bit like he’s doing Richard Manuel apparently it’s all cobbled together from a one-day jam session which may account for it’s oddness there’s a bit about it here though idk this dude’s sourceshttps://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/04/29/into-the-great-wide-open-tom-petty-and-the-heartbreakers-luna-1976/
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 March 2024 23:23 (two years ago)
Xp thus sang Freud. This so would be a bore without that instrumental. The chord the strings play at the intro after the drum fill establishes a key to the song that wasn't suggested in the intro playing before it. Nice little surprise.
The instrumental gets more ridiculous the more I play this song. I feel like I'm laughing at this song rather than along with it, but that's not a negative criticism imo. Childlike "wtf who thought of this? laughter is key to a lot of music I like at first listen
― H.P, Friday, 8 March 2024 23:26 (two years ago)
afraid this one is doing the least for me off this LP. i get what it's going for, but it's forgotten when it's over. idk if the early 70s Procol Harum organ/mood thing really plays to this group's strengths, but it's interesting that it was part of their repertory despite the focus on Elvis and the Beatles etc. i guess it was just part of the lingua franca of working 70s rock bands.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 March 2024 23:27 (two years ago)
"Luna": COWBELL! I kinda like this one, mainly because of the atmospherics. Tench & Lynch carry it. Still, very "Side 2", and gets bulldozed by the closer.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 March 2024 23:48 (two years ago)
Tench Petty & Lynch carry it.
Reading the blog entry now.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 March 2024 23:53 (two years ago)
this song is terrible what are you all on about
― calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2024 00:54 (two years ago)
yr mom is terrible
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 March 2024 01:53 (two years ago)
Where's your sense of humour calstars?
― H.P, Saturday, 9 March 2024 02:06 (two years ago)
one of the things that surprised me about my late-in-life Petty fandom is how much i enjoyed PLAINTIVE Tom Petty.
Just wait I am going to cry all over this thread when you get to Wildflowers
― Comfortably numbnuts (Heez), Saturday, 9 March 2024 02:19 (two years ago)
― calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2024 02:24 (two years ago)
I think the real question is - do you like any of Tom Petty's recorded material? cuz I am cool with u harshing on the "it's ok" tracks as long as you actually like some of it? also "terrible" is reserved for arguably 69% of all recorded music (coincidentally yr mom's favorite number) and this is well into the top 31%
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 9 March 2024 02:40 (two years ago)
Xp, no I just think you've got to be humourless to call Luna terrible. It's a fun silly little bop trying to do 5 things at one and sounding totally off-kilter because of it. If someone told me this track was from ween I'd believe them.
― H.P, Saturday, 9 March 2024 05:38 (two years ago)
I realise I'm probably annoying both Petty lovers and Petty haters with that comment, but I stand by it.
― H.P, Saturday, 9 March 2024 05:39 (two years ago)
Also just want to acknowledge you got totally owned by Vg's and Sleeve's comment and we shouldn't rush past that
― H.P, Saturday, 9 March 2024 05:41 (two years ago)
So you’re saying the song is funnyThat I agree with
― calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2024 05:43 (two years ago)
Then laugh along and enjoy ya sob! ;)
― H.P, Saturday, 9 March 2024 05:49 (two years ago)
Will do
― calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2024 05:55 (two years ago)
just gave the album a full spin (excepting the closing track, which i imagine will be some lightweight jammy throwaway), and it really goes down easy. it's nowhere close to the best rock debut of 1976, but it's greater than the sum of its parts. i do think I've struggled for not being able to pick out so many specific awesome instrumental moments, or specifically killer lyrics, which are usually my gateways into songs/artists. i just dig rockin' around with these fellas.
"Fooled Again" and "Luna" are the only ones that I doubt will grow on me much, but the rest are already starting to do so. "Anything That's Rock n Roll" especially, that seemed kinda disjointed at first but is now proving to be a genuine earworm.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 9 March 2024 14:04 (two years ago)
“luna” sounds like a weird al style parody of roxy music’s “strictly confidential” with a little bit of “breakdown” thrown in
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Saturday, 9 March 2024 14:18 (two years ago)
did people write music on quaaludes in the 70s? or did they make you too sleepy? it is kind of a sleepy song. but not pot-sleepy. i was too young for quaaludes. missed it...by that much. they did have more sleepy drugs back then in general. they gave out librium prescriptions like they were aspirin. i should check out that link upthread.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 March 2024 16:45 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmBEPEidGJw
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 March 2024 16:51 (two years ago)
I'm not saying Luna is some classic but it's odd and an interesting song for Tom Petty. Overall, that's what's interesting about the album to me in general in the context of who he would become, some songs feel like mediocre attempts to do things he would perfect later on, some things feel like them trying out things that ultimately he would shed - roads not taken so to speak. like the springsteen ambition of "the wild one, forever" (definitely the new-to-me highlight of the album) or the country soul of "mystery man" (not nearly as effective) or "luna" (which again i like i think mostly because it feels sort of weird and odd in a way that i don't associate with tom petty)
then obviously you have "breakdown" and "american girl", two early masterpieces that point the way towards what he's becoming.
that's the point of a listening thread to me, just to take it all in in sequence and see how an artist evolves.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:35 (two years ago)
i do like Luna! sounds kinda like he fell out a window drunk in the grass with his guitar and started playing.
― Swen, Saturday, 9 March 2024 20:04 (two years ago)
ums otml
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 March 2024 21:12 (two years ago)
the live versions have been my way into some of those deep cuts and while i do like that version better than the studio version, just isn’t happening with the song for me
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Saturday, 9 March 2024 22:21 (two years ago)
petty on organ + lynch on synth is an interesting combo tho, i’m sure that didn’t happen again
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Saturday, 9 March 2024 22:23 (two years ago)
Timely!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/03/08/one-of-tom-pettys-biggest-hits-is-back-on-the-billboard-charts/
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 March 2024 06:29 (two years ago)
Had never heard this 10 minute petty song from 1976, a sort of can't you hear me knocking type jam. there's a later song petty wrote with basically the same title but it's a different song. it was on a one-sided live album, kind of interesting, if not truly great. there's a bootleg from 1977 called "new york shuffle" that is streaming on spotify that has a version of it, and a few more interesting and not truly great rarities on it. i'm not sure why it's on spotify, being a bootleg; it's not listed under his albums, but you can search for it (kind of a bug i'd guess). just thought i'd share over the weekend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KaZBwsSLqE
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Monday, 11 March 2024 06:41 (two years ago)
American Girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIhb-kNvL6M
― scott seward, Monday, 11 March 2024 11:30 (two years ago)
i always like hearing it. that is my praise for a song that you can a hear a LOT in this country.
― scott seward, Monday, 11 March 2024 11:31 (two years ago)
i like how those drums totally could have been on one of the new wave records that i listened to in the 80s.
― scott seward, Monday, 11 March 2024 11:33 (two years ago)
this my favorite tom petty song, and i'm so glad it happened on the first lp. that pumped-up double time tempo is so critical. the byrds would’ve keeled over if they tried taking a song at this pace. i LOVE how this song is basically over by the two-minute mark. the rest is an extended mic drop courtesy mike campbell -- what a great, building coda. i love the competing syncopations on that high note in the double-tracked guitar part.
plus those lyrics. I love the past tense. i love how "he" doesn't appear until the line before the last. two short verses and so many perspectives. who's saying "make it last all night"? the american girl? the narrator? "he"? is "he" the narrator? to whom is it “so painful”? are we still in the past tense now?
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 11 March 2024 11:41 (two years ago)
Thank you, Silence of the Lambs.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2024 11:48 (two years ago)
never heard a bar band that gets campbell's part exactly right
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 11 March 2024 11:59 (two years ago)
we did it respectably in, like, 1977. i must have a cassette of it somewhere.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 11 March 2024 12:04 (two years ago)
oh yeah
― a (waterface), Monday, 11 March 2024 13:19 (two years ago)