The Cure: Classic or Dud?

The Real Snow White, The Scream, and It’s Over are all fantastic

I do like the flow of 4:13 Dream and like the songs on the album. "Underneath the Stars" is amazing, might be the best late period song by the Cure. Bloodflowers could be better, I suppose, but it has been awhile since I heard it. The s/t I just can't listen to as it hurts my ears. Tho probably a decent album if you play with the alternate tracks and B-sides.

The biggest problem with the last 2 albums is how loud and up front in the mix Robert’s voice is. Makes them barely listenable unfortunately. I’m surprised he doesn’t hear it.

I went and watched a live version of The Promise and it probably delivered more on the assaultative guitar burnout front - without quite getting there - could even faintly hear Roger's keys

Would be a pretty interested to read a candid oral history of those Ross Robinson sessions - sounds like the goth Some Kind of Monster - band identity crisis, tantrums, walkouts, Robert berating the band for not being worthy of being the Cure, people throwing music stands across the room (audible on Lost IIRC) etc

If Wiki can be trusted it looks like Ross has produced over 30 albums since that one, most of which I've never heard or even heard of, so I'd like to think it tanked his career.

Wish they'd finish up Songs of a Lost World and release it

Me too

I have been BURNed before but I still hold out hope that they have a mature-age masterpiece in em

They really should, all the things that RS sang about at 25 are actually happening now

https://youtube.com/XmoFgi2EB9c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmoFgi2EB9c
sorry

sky arts showed both Nocturne and the Cure's 2018 gig from hyde park on friday night. the years have not really been kind to R Smith but his voice has held up remarkably well, i thought.

(there are like a million people in hyde park by the looks. played for two hours. things like A Forest and Just Like Heaven sounded note-perfect. it's all very impressive)

Yeah their live show at this point is full-on stunning

Finally listened to the Chestnut Studio demo version of "Boys Don't Cry." Those vocals! Sounds like a Nick Lowe Rollers Show-style production.

That whole bonus disc rips. And wow, released 20 years ago now.

the og demo of "i'm cold" reminds me of ________ (insert awesome first wave british punk band) in the best possible way.

the guy was p good at synthesizing his influences.

The demo of "I'm Cold' is so good, it should've been on the album instead of the dumb remake of "Foxy Lady". The Easy Cure demo version of "Meat Hook" is also better than the one that made it on the album.

I remember when KROQ played this on the radio, and such an off the wall song even for the Cure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3sAnCluOsE

On some days Harold & Joe is my favourite Cure song!

Harold and Joe was the last classic Cure song

Never Enough was the A-side because it had the production I guess, but it could easily have been the other way round. People would have still clocked it as 'The Cure going baggy'. And they'd have an actually catchy song in their head as a bonus. History continues as planned.

"Never Enough" deserves to be the A side but "Harold and Joe" could have also been a stand alone single.

"harold and joe" contains one of my favorite moments of whistling on a pop record. definitely one of their best.

Definitely my favourite Neighbours song

Harold and Joe was the last classic Cure song

Curious if you mean “last song that was a classic” or “last song by the classic lineup”

it's one of my favourites too. otoh I played it to a friend of mine the other day and they said "I can see why it was a b-side"

It's catchier than any single of theirs since Friday! With the possible exception of "Cut Here"

But it preceded "Friday"

If I ranked favorite Cure songs, it would place above anything that came after, for sure.

But it preceded "Friday"

I know

I think I listen to the Join The Dots box set more than any Cure album these days

https://www.brooklynvegan.com/the-cure-releasing-acoustic-hits-to-streaming-for-first-time-ever-watch-acoustic-videos-for-a-forest-and-the-love-cats/

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The Cure releasing 'Acoustic Hits' to streaming for first time ever (watch acoustic videos for "A Forest" and "The Love Cats")
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When The Cure released their Greatest Hits album back in 2001, they recorded new acoustic versions of 18 songs for a bonus CD. It includes unplugged versions of “Boys Don’t Cry,” “The Love Cats,” “Lullaby,” “Friday I’m in Love,” “A Forest,” “In Between Days,” and more. Acoustic Hits has never been available on streaming services, but will be starting on August 9.

In celebration, The Cure are releasing acoustic videos, originally bonus content on the Greatest Hits DVD, to their YouTube Channel. Today they shared the videos for “A Forest” and “The Love Cats.”

huh cool, i remember a few of those being on the vhs too (which is what i had). boris heads take note: mr babacar is among the fray for a few tunes.

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Lol, the most important part

I have the original two disc set but don't remember playing the acoustic set much. Not that it wasn't good but just know the songs to well, and would play other things instead to get my Cure fix.

The only song I remember being specifically good on the acoustic disc was “Just Say Yes”

I thought the acoustic disc was from MTV Unplugged for some reason?

This CD set has nothing to do with MTV but remember them also doing an MTV set.

Yeah the MTV Unplugged appearance was in 1991

I wish the would release Join The Dots on streaming services.

dear Bob, stop getting distracted by other stuff and finish the album, ffs

xp: https://open.spotify.com/album/0Be9aR7uSUhQII8AC404TP?si=sOOxCm25TdecRgzYDovbkA

Thank you, but it's not available here in Canada for some reason. Only the Japanese Whispers tracks.

It's a good job Let's Go to Bed, The Walk and The Lovecats sound great on Greatest Hits because they were skipped by the remastering series.

join the dots discs one and two are useful, but i feel vaguely that it should have been a series of lp reissues not a box, and disc 1 should have been side b of the cassette standing on a beach. what is 10:15 even doing here, plastic passion and pillbox and hansa are wack and should be on the 3IB reissue, the japanese whispers songs are fine where they are, the la ment alternate should go, i dunno on the top reissue maybe, and new day should come after stop dead. that cassette was awesome and join the dots ruins the nostalgia with the extra stuff.

similarly, japanese dream through fear of ghosts would make a nice lp without the alternate stuff, that's like 43 minutes of prime cure.

after that i suppose i would appreciate a disc of hello i love you / harold and joe / wish b-sides / purple haze / burn, but that's not something to put on very often, and then beyond that who cares.

They’re b sides, is all. 10:15 was the b to Killing an Arab, the early 3 were b sides to the Boys Don’t Cry reissue, etc. But yeah I have made my own playlist of the SoaB cassette b sides, as well as the Curiosity flip of the Concert cassette.

I have returned to being an active Walkman user and it is partly because I wanted to revisit side 2 of Standing on a Beach - which is absolutely as good as I remember

The Australian cassette has a mastering error where Happy the Man is repeated twice - I swear as a kid I didn’t really notice because I was totally blissed out and dopey from the lysergic vibes of those b-sides - pretty happy for Happy The Man to go as long as it likes

Mine wasn’t! I’m pretty sure it was an OG Aus release too

I had this one - and the ones I have bought since my return to cassettes have been the same

it is so good revisiting this stuff in the same way I fell in love with it in the first place

ah mine was a black cassette

Anyone else break down and buy the Funko Pops?

https://shop.revolvermag.com/products/funko-pop-rocks-the-cure-5-pack-set?variant=39854159102046