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― brimstead, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 01:09 (three months ago) link
Unlike most decades, the 90s had more than one good song.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 01:09 (three months ago) link
"fake bullshit for clicks"
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, February 5, 2024 1:28 PM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Calcified doctrinaire conventional wisdom is a way more tedious threat to discourse than “oh no we might upset people by having a different opinion and it generates revenue”
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 05:20 (three months ago) link
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gameshows/images/f/f5/Celebrity_Family_Feud_Big_Red_Strike.png
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 06:58 (three months ago) link
no youre right we should all be on our knees praying in genuflection to religious idols of your interpretation of the Correct History
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:56 (three months ago) link
no youre right "Dancing on My Own" is actually better than "Be My Baby" now because reasons.
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:04 (three months ago) link
this vintage d33j/Whiney beef brought 2 u courtesy of Alka-Seltzer, plop plop fizz fizz
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:26 (three months ago) link
Is "Dancing On My Own" considered a particularly bad song? It's one of Billy Idol's best imo.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:27 (three months ago) link
I like when he brings Monica from Friends up on stage in the video...
― atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:30 (three months ago) link
Is that the one that goes, "I'm tired of dancing here all by myself, tonight I wanna dance with someone else"?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link
No it's the one that goes "ohhhh I wanna dance with somebody"
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:06 (three months ago) link
They're sharing a dance they call lonelinessbut it's better than dancing alone
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:11 (three months ago) link
Dancing On My Self-Own
― a hyperlink to the past (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link
Refuse to actually read the fucking thing to give em the clicks, but back to covering Kanye I see.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 February 2024 05:35 (three months ago) link
Damn they actually did a review
― atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Thursday, 15 February 2024 06:40 (three months ago) link
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn’t have been surprised to see him pop up as a news item or whatever, but didn’t expect to see a lead review (for whatever “lead review” means in 2024 as opposed to 2008 or w/e). Was hoping that level of actual engagement with his music had passed.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 February 2024 06:47 (three months ago) link
It’s actually a pretty thoughtful (if somewhat dry) review of an album I’ll never listen to.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 February 2024 11:52 (three months ago) link
i've only heard a few tracks and the review is if anything far too kind to those
― ufo, Thursday, 15 February 2024 12:00 (three months ago) link
scrolling the Sunday review, and I'm getting a pop-up ad for The Pitchfork Review podcast, which hasn't put out any episodes since both of its co-hosts were laid off last month
― jaymc, Sunday, 18 February 2024 05:19 (three months ago) link
Eerie.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 18 February 2024 14:29 (three months ago) link
Looks like they finally updated the masthead, though not anyone's titles; the highest position is deputy managing editor.
― jaymc, Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:26 (three months ago) link
The reviews section seems like business as usual. But if you just read the news items it looks like Jazz Monroe and Matthew Strauss are the only people left working.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:13 (three months ago) link
Beyonce fans now harassing N@dine Sm!th because the genre in the review is listed as "pop/r&b" and they're saying she should have changed it to country, even though she's explained that is apparently not possible w/ the way Pitchfork is set up to assign a solitary genre to an artist in the database
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 02:29 (three months ago) link
That seems dumb and short-sighted on the site’s part
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 02:35 (three months ago) link
Stans are weird about genre. Taylor Swift fans harassed the New York Times over Jon Caramanica's review of Folklore because he is, according to his bio, the paper's pop music critic and was therefore biased against an "indie/alternative" album.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 02:59 (three months ago) link
Maybe Beyoncé’ and Taylor just have unusually unhinged fans
― beamish13, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 03:05 (three months ago) link
the idea of Swift being considered an “indie/alternative” artist is more a testament to the uselessness of genre in the current era.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 03:31 (three months ago) link
It’s funny that they likely tagged her that way because they started covering her circa Reputation, so even their retroactive reviews of albums like her ST carry that tag.
― Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 03:41 (three months ago) link
(And yeah, I don’t understand why a genre tag has to be tied to an artist, rather assigned to each review individually)
― Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 03:42 (three months ago) link
I think it was because Apple Music categorized Folklore that way? It's just a weird way to think about how genre works, as though she was doing something so radically opposed to what she'd done before that it would require special expertise to analyze, rather than just using a slightly different set of sonic signifiers.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 03:45 (three months ago) link
― Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Monday, February 19, 2024 9:41 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
If you're talking about Pitchfork, it tags Swift "Pop/R&B." FWIW, I think these are the only genre tags that exist:
-Electronic-Experimental-Folk/Country-Global-Jazz-Metal-Pop/R&B-Rap-Rock
But some artists get multiple tags. For instance, Carrie Underwood is both Folk/Country and Pop/R&B. So is Anais Mitchell.
So I guess it would make sense to use that double label for both Swift and Beyonce, too.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 03:56 (three months ago) link
Right, my point was that if they started covering her at the beginning, she likely would’ve been tagged folk/country (or whatever)… but they didn’t, so even her country albums aren’t tagged that way
― Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 04:02 (three months ago) link
It’s weird they didn’t give at least her the double tag that Carrie Underwood has, though…
― Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 04:07 (three months ago) link
"Global" = just insane that this is tolerated
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 16:01 (three months ago) link
A few weeks ago Pitchfork was dead. Now we're nitpicking genre labels. Quite a comeback.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 16:24 (three months ago) link
pitchfork — still dumb
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 16:30 (three months ago) link
I've stopped looking at the site regularly, but this genre-tag discussion interested me (fwiw)
When I worked at a music website a million years ago, we had a problem where an artist could only be tagged with a single name in the back-end database; so when we ran a review of a Dion box set, the artist name appeared as "Dion and the Belmonts" – which ticked off B1lly Altm4n (for good reason). I remember delving into the limitation on the tech side. I don't recall any issues with tagging individual reviews by genre, tho
― Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 16:34 (three months ago) link
The guy who can fix it probably got fired
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 16:35 (three months ago) link
iirc, the p4k CMS only allows you to assign genres per artist not album, which was explained the last time there was a dustup over this
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:04 (three months ago) link
Reminds me of when Christgau had Fantano dead to rights with the genre tag "dark prog" and all his stans went ballistic because those words don't line up perfectly with RYM definitions or whatever
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:06 (three months ago) link
I've always wonder what led to Brand Nubian getting Metal and Rap genre tags
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1123-fire-in-the-hole/
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:14 (three months ago) link
Same with Juggaknots
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/4310-rerelease-clear-blue-skies/
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:16 (three months ago) link
and Critical Beatdown lmao
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8383-critical-beatdown/
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:19 (three months ago) link
Taylor Swift fans harassed the New York Times over Jon Caramanica's review of Folklore because he is, according to his bio, the paper's pop music critic and was therefore biased against an "indie/alternative" album.― jaymc, Monday, February 19, 2024 6:59 PM (yesterday)
― jaymc, Monday, February 19, 2024 6:59 PM (yesterday)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8fK-z5eyeA
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:55 (three months ago) link
every editorial CMS is janky and has a 1,000 dumb little decisions that were made when it was rolled out that end up having unintended consequences that no one anticipated at the beginning
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:00 (three months ago) link
yeah that was definitely true at XLR8R way back when— lots of weird quirks on the back end that seemed easily fixable but weren’t
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:08 (three months ago) link
I recently offered my services to improve/optimize an editorial CMS with my new ReactJS skills and was basically told the whole thing is outsourced to a tech company
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:09 (three months ago) link
yeah and there's no appetite to fix it because it's really only making it more annoying to do work for the people who actually have to do it, but it's not preventing the work from being done, so the powers that be aren't going to say okay let's create a project to do this because some beyonce fans are upset about something for two weeks
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:13 (three months ago) link
the whole shebang:
because it is LITERALLY NOT SOMETHING I HAVE CONTROL OVER as i have said many times. the coding of the website assigns genres to ARTISTS, not to releases. if they changed it to country it would change every beyonce relese to country. please put this energy toward a real problem https://t.co/AHNCljpkzf— nadine type beat (@FakeNadine) February 19, 2024
Never, Nadine will not know peace until my last breath— Beyhive Central (@Beyhive_Central) February 19, 2024
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:15 (three months ago) link
cool, normal fans.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:16 (three months ago) link