Were the Grammys on?

Kanye interrupting Taylor leading to her winning a fourth (and, next year, a fifth) album of the year is a true butterfly effect

Kanye goes back in time to fix his mistake out of spite and instead goes to the wrong year and accidentally interrupts Jamiroquai

It was the VMAs, just to keep you historians honest

A team of time traveling Swifties come back to stop Kayne only to find out that Taylor's VMA speech was going call for a race war

I watched the clip. I don’t like defending Taylor Swift but the internet is being overtly dramatic as usual. Yeah Lana del Rey seemed like she didn’t want to go with her and she was probably torn about her album or nominated songs not getting the deserved recognition m, but whatever they’re friends irl and Lana did participate in the album. If it weren’t for the recent rule changes she’d have won a grammy for the album too. I don’t see Taylor being terrible for bringing her along.

The Celine Dion thing is also being dramatized and Taylor was clearly overwhlemed, but it does seem like misfire for someone who is usually so calculated and in control of her image.

Still not as bad as it seems. I think there has been so much overexposure of her in the past year that backlash for any little mistake is inevitable at this point.

I seemingly agree with the losing nominees that announcing your new album during your is pretty eyeroll worthy. Just tweet the announcement after the show ffs.

Agreed, it's pointless to get mad at her for the LDR or Celine things. Get mad at her for being a bad actress trying to appear surprised that she won the award at all

Her heart will go on, I suspect

I hadn't read any commentary... are ppl saying she shouldn't have brought Lana up(?) Glad others picked up on the Celine thing, though...

Lana Del TayTay

I seemingly agree with the losing nominees that announcing your new album during your is pretty eyeroll worthy. Just tweet the announcement after the show ffs.

GO BIG OR GO HOME

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and taylor had to mention how old lana was on stage. i'm sorry, i mean call her a "legend in her prime". ouch!

xp Lol, who is that(?)

wait, does the album come out of her butt?

that's macy. from the old days.

i'm pretty forgiving w/ Taylor, but even i think announcing the album during an award speech is cringey - especially for someone at her level. can't really fault someone for whom the platform actually matters w/r/t getting the word out, but that's not her, obviously.

Yes, not to clutch pearls at violating the sanctity of the Grammy Awards, but it felt remarkably class-less

and, to Eric H.'s point, awkward. like she knew she really shouldn't / didn't want to do it.

but, of course, as WGW would say, "wgas" ultimately

I only saw the Travis Scott performance and I want apology from anyone who has ever told me the musical tastes were "annoying"

are ppl saying she shouldn't have brought Lana up(?)

lana was nominated for her own album in the category and just lost. was weird

She should release a special Target LP edition that comes with free copy of the new Lana Del Rey album.

travis scott really hates chairs

She should release a special Target LP edition that comes with free copy of the new Lana Del Rey album

There's a Tunnel, Taylor's Version

xxxp Well, yeah, I was already pissed at Lana being shut out of every category she was nommed in (unless you count, in a sideways way, Antonoff's Producer of the Year award, which I suppose covers both her and Taylor's albums... big win for the Ant-man)

Taylor just does her thing I guess, for all her industry connections she feels separate from all of it, just speaking to her fans only and no one else in the room. I have zero opinion on her really, except I hope she keeps elevating the blood pressure of the MAGAs.

It did kind of remind me of when Trump had a Huge Announcement coming and it turned out to be that he was selling NFTs

Wow a globally famous recording artist is promoting a record, yikes

I mean, what's next?

Perhaps a globally famous record label will purchase advertising

Or perhaps, at next week's sporting contest, a brand of soda might promote itself

Eek, what if a brand of BEER chooses to inform the public that their BEER is available for purchase?

Yikes

Eek

Oh wait, what if a film star appears on a talk show and just *happens* to mention that they have an upcoming film?

EEK

YIKES

And no one ever criticizes huge record labels or beer companies after all

Considering talk show appearances are expressly made for promoting a film, that wouldn't raise hackles, I agree

taylor is a huge fan of ldr, cites her constantly as an inspiration. i haven’t seen the footage obv but i think it’s clear why taylor wanted her up there

It's better than Michael Jordan inviting people to his awards ceremony only to insult them

I just re-watched her acceptance and didn't see anything wrong with the LDR praise (she didn't mention her age, contrary to what was said above? she calls her a "legacy artist" or something)

also i hate the trend of the internet reading motivations into the facial expressions of public figures. you’re telling me lana del rey looked awkward?????

Because industry awards shows are televised, people watching them get confused and think they're the audience. The industry is the audience.

also i hate the trend of the internet reading motivations into the facial expressions of public figures.

Saaaame

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any clarification yet on what exactly happened with Killer Mike that he got fully arrested? I assume some kind of fight or assault?

i heard assault on security guard, and that it was a big nothing

well i'm sure the trustworthy LAPD wouldn't exaggerate

Shortly after winning three Grammys, the rapper Killer Mike was arrested at the awards show on Sunday in connection with a physical altercation at the Los Angeles arena where the ceremony took place, the police said.

In a post on social media, the Los Angeles Police Department said that Killer Mike, who was born Michael Render, was booked on a misdemeanor battery charge and that he was being released.

Representatives for the rapper did not immediately respond to requests for comment. The Recording Academy, which presents the awards, referred questions to the police.

So basically zero reason to do this

winning best rap grammy and then getting taken away in handcuffs is a pretty baller PR move.

Mike, still killer:

Hours after he was released from police custody in Los Angeles after police said he was involved in a physical altercation on Grammys night, the rapper Killer Mike said in a radio interview Monday morning that the arrest was a mere blip in a triumphant night when he won three Grammys.

“We hit a speed bump and then we head back to the party, man,” the rapper told the hosts of the Atlanta-based Big Tigger Morning Show, saying that he had just left his final party in Los Angeles following the awards show.

I ain’t even mad because it’s pretty iconic for a rap artist to get arrested the same day you won 3 grammys.

A few thoughts, realizing I'm late to the party itt:

- Chapman/Combs duet was magnificent, and as a defender of the Combs cover from the beginning, I'm so glad to see the response has been resoundingly positive and seems to be putting the "appropriation" criticism to bed; his obvious reverence for her -- mirroring the audience's -- was just a joy to watch. There is a long tradition of covers in country music, and it's undeniably wonderful that reintroduced this legend to a new generation of (country) music fans.
- Joni performance got me teary eyed and was a close second. When she changed up the lyrics, I melted.
- Miley performance kicked ass, and AFAICT, was done completely live without overdubs. Really thought when "Flowers" won that she'd take the Album award, too. Her speech was hilarious and authentic and decidedly Miley.
- Olivia performance was very good and made me realize just what a beast of a song "Vampire" is to sing. Could anyone else in the AOTY category could carry that tune (maybe Miley?)? Super impressed with her and just wish she would have been recognized for what was a phenomenal year and album.
- Lana also robbed but that was more expected.
- Trevor Noah was truly awful. That the Recording Academy needed to note their host was from South Africa as a way of proving how diverse the show was? Possibly worse.
- Travis Scott's performance was...bizarre. Someone will need to explain the chair smashing to me.
- SZA, Victoria Monet, and Lainey Wilson all gave great speeches. It was very cool to see a trend emerge throughout the night of women in their 30s who've clearly been hustling and working their asses off for more than a decade get rewarded, and rightly so (ahem, Jay Z). In earlier years, these awards go to less interesting artists.
- I am always blown away by Oprah. What a magnetic orator and human being. Was Fantasia lip syncing?
- Taylor's one of my all-time favorite artists, but she's always been pretty cringe at these award ceremonies, and last night was especially bad (album announcement, Lana drag, Celine snub, awkward speeches). Midnights is such a weird record for the Academy to select for this award! Felt to me like an award for her "year" than for the album itself.

- SZA, Victoria Monet, and Lainey Wilson all gave great speeches. It was very cool to see a trend emerge throughout the night of women in their 30s who've clearly been hustling and working their asses off for more than a decade get rewarded, and rightly so (ahem, Jay Z). In earlier years, these awards go to less interesting artists.

otm

Very good post, Indexed… agree with everything (more or less)

The "Vampire" perf had an extra dose of ~theatricality~... which maybe should have felt OTT, but I think it worked well for that setting. I've seen so many live performances of that song by now, and never tire of it... but that was also one of the best, I think (searching Threads for reactions afterward, I saw someone write – "I love this like I love 'The Rocky Horror Show'... which, yeah, I get; even though Rocky's not my particular jam)