New Scott Walker album: 'The Drift'

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I still haven't listened to (any of) it, but there does seem to be rather a lot of Pola X, whatever that is. I wonder if it is the whole thing.

Almsot all of Tilt as well, and quite a lot of Climate of Hunter.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 2 February 2007 08:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to have "man from reno" and "indecent sacrifice" on CD

RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 February 2007 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

So it turns out I have a dud CD 3.

I am not sure how bothered to be about this.

I suppose I could try and exchange it at another HMV.

Or I could arse about trying to get the manufacturers to change it.

Or I could just sulk a bit and pretend I didn't want it anyway.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Saturday, 3 February 2007 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

take it out on your wife and children.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 3 February 2007 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

last two posts: best scott lyrics ever.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 3 February 2007 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

Send an email off to the label, man! Pretty sure they were accepting returns when this first turned up; they should have no problem with getting you a playable copy.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 3 February 2007 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

Funny that PJM should get a dud and I didn't, presuming we bought them from the same pile in the same store - they must be part of the same batch?

Mind you, all I've heard of it so far is about 30 sec of "Jackie", which was enough to confirm that (a) it's not HDCD like the 2000 reissues (I know no one cares about that) and (b) it's two-channel. Perhaps it drops out later on disc 3?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 3 February 2007 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

No, JaCKIE WOZ FUXCKED UP TOo, as is my typing.

Perhaps I have hit the bottle.

I can't find the receipt.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Saturday, 3 February 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, there was also an Eno album for a pound, but I was put of by the presence of Daniel Lanois.

-- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...), February 1st, 2007 5:09 AM. (PJ Miller 68) (later)

if that was apollo, you made a huge mistake

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 3 February 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

It was Apollo - I went and bought one (it wasn't the remaster), as stated.

Not a huge mistake. Not really. Not when I can copy it for PJM for nothing.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 3 February 2007 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

I have certainly made bigger mistakes in my time; some of them up to four times the size of that one.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Saturday, 3 February 2007 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have found the receipt, and I have brought the box set to work. Later I shall go along and baffle the staff at London's trendy HMV. I don't think I will have much luck.

Ne'er mind, eh?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

I will make you a replacement disc 3 if you like, PJM.

Unless Pam has a Walker Bros comp lurking somewhere, I think there are actually 46 tracks (about 165min) on this that I don't have on CD. So perhaps I should just keep it. Or dump a couple of the Til The Band Comes In tracks that appear on Boychild (have the 1990 vinyl pressing), burn 2 CDs and sell it. I dunno...if it's anything like the Eames-pattern chairs we have in the carport, I'll never get round to eBaying it anyway.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

I have certainly made bigger mistakes in my time; some of them up to four times the size of that one.

Greatest Scott lyric ever.

You know there's a Walker Brothers box set that's just come out, don't you?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 February 2007 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I would quite like it, that Wlaker Bros box set, but then I think I will end up thinking that After The Lights Go Out (if that's what it's called) has everything I really need on it.

Thanks Michael, but it's more the FACT of having a dud that bothers me. I think I have almost everyhting on that disc anyway, except for something about Chicago, and I am not keen on the Europe/America split, which seems rather artificial. But then the same is true of all the splits, I suppose.

I think the problem is that Boy Child is pretty much perfect.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 5 February 2007 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

The good news is, I managed to exchange my box set for another copy, and disc 3 works! Suddenly I am well-keen on the Europe/America split, and feel willing to give Nite Flights another chance rather than dismissing it as sub-Bee Gees claptrap.

The bad news is, the box itself is even more shop-soiled than the first one. However, I have fought the urge to discard the packaging without further ado.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

(Violently off-topic, but related to this in a Miller Calls The Shots sense - that Kameleon remote control you recommended to me doesn't operate my Freeview box. I will be taking it back to Richer Sounds. You've never steered me wrong before, so I feel slightly bewildered.

Turns out it's a first-generation model; later models have the Freeview codes and this model can be upgraded by buying some special cable, whacking it into the six-pin socket inside the battery compartment and downloading some dubious software written by "enthusiasts". Not bloody likely.)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

give Nite Flights another chance rather than dismissing it as sub-Bee Gees claptrap

Sometimes I really REALLY despair at the youth of today.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

I am very sorry, Michael. I bet the whole family was cursing me last night. I'm glad I wasn't there to hear it. You must redouble your efforts to find the old one. Make it priority number one.

I shall give Nite Flights another shot, while I caress my badly shopsoiled box.

It is nice to be called youth though.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

From track five onwards it might well sound like sub-Bee Gees claptrap. I ventured once beyond the four Scott tracks and never did so again.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

i ONLY HAVE THE ONES ON THE BOX, SO I should be safe. sorry caps lock.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, two-thirds of the Nite Flights album is very poor indeed. Perhaps keeping this box and selling Nite Flights makes more sense.

(Family couldn't care less, PJM. Barely even registered interest in amazing new electro-luminescent remote control and disappointment at uselessness of it was infinitessimal. Ill, y'see.)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

I hope they get well soon.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

4AD are to release new material from seasoned oddball and occasional genius Scott Walker on September 24th. Entitled, rather preposterously, And Who Shall Go To The Ball? And What Shall Go To The Ball?, the 25 minute instrumental composition was commissioned by the South Bank Centre to accompany a dance piece by the Candoco company, who will be touring it across the country in the autumn. Says Scott: “The music is full of edge and staccato shapes or cuts, reflecting how we cut up the world around us as a consequence of the shape of our bodies. How much of a body does an intelligence need to be potentially socialised in an age of ever-developing AI?” Hmmm…

Telephone thing, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

And What Shall Go To The Ball?

where's ethan

Just got offed, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

getting sonned by ugly sisters jess and deej, probably

Just got offed, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

what

cutty, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

I love the sound of the Drift but the lyrics just make me cringe and/or laugh out loud; I spent the first couple months after it was released trying to appreciate them as being "abstract," but really they're just childish/stupid.

Reatards Unite, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

As a top intellectual, you'd know.

Hupi Bojangls, Thursday, 16 August 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

As a hipster who has to have music reviews form their opinions for them, you wouldn't.

Reatards Unite, Thursday, 16 August 2007 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

ok, nothing of the last seven posts made any sense at all.

the next grozart, Friday, 17 August 2007 01:21 (eighteen years ago)

The lyrics are intended to make you laugh, duh.

libcrypt, Saturday, 18 August 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

The Donald Duck part is totally brilliant.

libcrypt, Saturday, 18 August 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

Is this new thing available for pre-order? I couldn't find anything on the 4AD website...

jonathan - stl, Saturday, 18 August 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

'the escape' freaks me out a bit. that gollum style voice totally comes out of nowhere.

elsewhere, this project is lke the musical equivalent of a toilet seat installation. i mean that in a good way mostly. this record brings the qualities of the medium of art a little closer to music.

occasionally, his vocal stylings remind me of jeff buckley's rendition of 'lilac wine'

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

ok, totally sold on this album
next stop 'tilt' perhaps

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Tilt is great. Maybe even better than this.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

The first track definitely has a lot of "Annalisa" Public Image Limited about it.

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

There's a DVD coming out which promises footage of the recording of The Drift

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

bah...more crooning, less looning...

henry s, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

"There's a DVD coming out which promises footage of the recording of The Drift"

You're not talking about 30 Century Man (which came out about 6 months ago and does indeed contain footage of the recording of The Drift and is bloody marvellous too) are you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYWGQMqC74
http://www.scottwalkerfilm.com/blog/

Stewart Osborne, Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:07 (eighteen years ago)

henry my office tomorrow 9 am sharp pls.

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

Tilt > The Drift, but they're both excellent. Wasn't there something else he did recently?

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:15 (eighteen years ago)

It's a long way from "Stretch" it has to be said...
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s28517.jpg

Mark G, Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:17 (eighteen years ago)

OMG that trailer

I Heart Scott Walker

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

Hi. New to this forum and relatively new to Scott Walker's world but have been immersing myself in it daily, especially Tilt and The Drift, for several months. These 2 albums are still throwing up surprises for me - amazing.

Can anyone shed any light on the following for me please?

On the 1995 BBC "Late Night" Scott Walker documentary, there are 4 clips of videos of songs from Tilt - Farmer In The City, Cockfighter, Patriot and Rosary (the last one is NOT the same as on the Jools Holland show). Each one seems to be a mix of him singing the words plus visual images (the latter being a bit like the Jesse video). Does anyone know if these 4 videos have ever been released/shown in their entirety?

I've also heard about a bootleg his from the early 1990s called 'The Secret Garden' with the following tracks. Again, anyone have any more info please?
1. Big Louise (same as released)
2. We Came Through (same as released)
3. Jackie (live)
4. The Flemish Girls (live)
5. Tokyo Rimshot (same as released)
6. Liquid Air 1 (instrumental, possible Climate Of Hunter outtake)
7. Liquid Air 2 (instrumental, possible Climate Of Hunter outtake)
8. Here You Are (an early & different version of Manhattan, subsequently on Tilt)
9. Liquid Air 3 (instrumental, possible Climate Of Hunter outtake)

Thanks for any info on these
Simon

simond, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

Oh i thought this was gonna be Jeff giving his opinion on the cd he bought.

havent heard of that bootleg, sorry. But if anyone has it i want it!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

fuck yes, me too.

jed_, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

As I've never seen one anywhere else, I've started compiling a
timeline of shows/concerts for Scott and The Walker Brothers (can
someone please tell me if this has already been done so I don't waste
my time??). My intention is to make it freely available when I've taken it as far as I can. I don't know if it'll be of interest to anyone else but, so far, I'm enjoying pulling it together.

To date, I've been concentrating on the Walker Brothers years from
1965 to the Japan shows in 1968 and have gathered loads of
information, poster scans, handbills, ticket scans, etc.......but I'm
grinding to a halt with quite a lot of gaps still left. I've pretty
much exhausted searches I can think of on the internet and just
wondered if anyone could help with any information you may have about
tour dates, specific show/TV dates, programme scans with lists of
dates, poster/handbill scans, old music papers, etc that would help? Not just for 1965 to 1968 but really for any period of Scott's career?

If you have anything, maybe you could just post the venue and date so I can add it to my master list (see below)?

Really grateful for ANY help with this.

Thanks,
Simon

So far...... (I also have a rich text version with scans etc)

1964-09-30 "Shindig" TV Show
1965-01-30 "Shindig" TV Show
1965-03-26 "Ready Steady Go" TV
1965-04-10 "Thank Your Lucky Stars" TV Show
1965-04-18 Leicester, De Monfort Hall
1965-04-19 Scarborough, Futurist Theatre (x2)
1965-05-20 Wolverhampton, Gaumont
1965-05-21 Bolton, Odeon
1965-05-22 Leeds, Odeon
1965-05-23 Derby, Gaumont
1965-05 or 06 "Ready Steady Go" TV
1965-05 or 06 "Thank Your Lucky Stars" TV
1965-05 or 06 "Top Of The Pops" TV
1965-06 Manchester, Oasis Club
1965-06 Stourbridge
1965-06 Blackpool
1965-06 Sheffield
1965-06 Birmingham
1965-06 Scarborough, Futurist Theatre
1965-07-16 Exeter, Odeon (supporting Rolling Stones) x2
1965-07 Great Yarmouth ABC
1965-07 Morecambe, Winter Gardens
1965-07-31 Nelson, Imperial Ballroom
1965 Bury
1965 Stockport
1965 Boston
1965 Nelson
1965 Blackpool (x2)
1965 Reading
1965 Harlow
1965 Dunstaple, California Ballroom
1965-08-01 London, Palladium???
1965-08-13 "Ready Steady Go" TV
1965-08-21 "Thank Your Lucky Stars" TV Show
1965-11 Portsmouth, Birdcage
1965-11-21 Bristol, Colston Hall
1965-12 London, Palladium???
1965-12-03 "Ready Steady Go"
1965-12-07 "Ready Steady Go" TV Christmas Special
1965-12 "Top Of The Pops" TV Christmas Special
1966-01 Oldham, Princess Ballroom
1966-01-08 "Thank Your Lucky Stars" TV Show
1966-01-29 "Thank Your Lucky Stars" TV Show
1966-02 Stockton, Tito's Club (1 week)
1966-02 Liverpool, Empire
1966-02-13 Portsmouth, Guildhall
1966-02-25 "Ready Steady Go"
1966-03-02 Edinburgh, ABC
1966-03-19 "Thank Your Lucky Stars" TV Show
1966-03-25 Finsbury Park, Astoria (1st night) (x2)
1966-03-29 Chester, ABC (x2)
1966-03-30 Wigan, ABC (x2) (cancelled)
Birmingham, ABC
1966-04-02 Newcastle, City Hall (x2)
1966-04-03 Leeds, Odeon (x2)
Wolverhampton, Gaumont (x2)
1966-04-08 Bradford, Gaumont (x2)
Stockton, ABC (x2)
1966-04-xx East Ham, Granada (x2)
1966-04-14 Bristol, Colston Hall (x2)
1966-04-15 Cardiff, Capitol (x2)
Sheffield, City Hall (x2)
Liverpool, Empire (x2)
Dublin, Adelphi (x2)
Belfast, ABC (x2)
Portsmouth, Guildhall (x2)
Bournmouth, Winter Gardens (x2)
1966-05-01 Coventry, Coventry Theatre (x2)
1966-05-01 NME Poll Winners Concert, London, Empire Pool
1966-05 to 06 Dates in Europe
1966-05-28 "Beat Club" TV, Bremen (Land Of 1000 Dances, Love Minus Zero, The Sun)
1966-06-12 London, Palladium (first time?) should date be the 5th?
1966-06 Week's dates in France?
1966-07-08 "Ready Steady Go - Walker Brothers Special" TV
1966-07 Southend
1966-07 Dover
1966-07 Southampton
1966-07 Morecambe
1966-07 Hull
1966-08-26 Southend, Odeon
1966-08-28 Morecambe, Winter Gardens
1966-09-23 "Ready Steady Go" TV
1966-10-01 East Ham, Granada (x2)
1966-10-02 Leicester, De Monfort Hall (x2)
1966-10-03 Chester, ABC (x2)
1966-10-04 Wigan, ABC (x2)
1966-10-05 Glasgow, Odeon (x2)
1966-10-06 Dundee, Caird Hall (x2)
1966-10-07 Edinburgh, ABC (x2)
1966-10-08 Stockton, ABC (x2)
1966-10-09 Leeds, Odeon (x2)
1966-10-12 Wolverhampton, Gaumont (x2)
1966-10-13 Manchester, Odeon (x2)
1966-10-14 Newcastle, City Hall (x2)
1966-10-15 Sheffield, Gaumont (x2)
1966-10-16 Coventry, Coventry Theatre (x2)
1966-10-18 Tooting, Granada (x2)
1966-10-19 Belfast, ABC (x2)
1966-10-20 Dublin, Adelphi (x2)
1966-10-21 Slough, Adelphi (x2)
1966-10-22 Bradford, Gaumont (x2)
1966-10-23 Derby, Odeon (x2)
1966-10-27 Gloucester, ABC (x2)
1966-10-28 Cardiff, Capitol (x2)
1966-10-29 Birmingham, Odeon (x2)
1966-10-30 Liverpool, Odeon (x2)
1966-11-02 Exeter, ABC (x2)
1966-11-03 Plymouth, ABC (x2)
1966-11-04 Bristol, Colston Hall (x2)
1966-11-05 Hammersmith, Odeon (x2)
1966-11-06 Ipswich, Gaumont (x2)
1966-11-09 Portsmouth, Guildhall (x2)
1966-11-10 Luton, ABC (x2)
1966-11-12 Bournemouth, Winter Gardens (x2)
1966-11-13 Finsbury Park, Astoria (x2)
1966-11-29 London, Palladium "Royal Gala"
1966-12 Tour of Scandinavia?
1967-01-17 Singapore, National Theatre
1967-01-21 Sydney, Stadium or Festival Hall (x2)
1967-01-22 Sydney TV Show
1967-01-23 Sydney, Stadium or Festival Hall (x2)
1967-01-24 Adelaide Festival Hall or Centennial Hall (x2)
1967-01-25 Adelaide Festival Hall or Centennial Hall (x2)
1967-01-26 Melbourne Festival Hall (x2)
1967-01-27 Melbourne Festival Hall (x2)
1967-01-28 Brisbane Festival Hall (x2)
1967-01-30 Christchurch, NZ, Theatre Royal (x2)
1967-01-31 Wellington, NZ, Town Hall (x2)
1967-02-01 Hamilton, NZ, Founders Theatre (x2)
1967-02-02 Auckland, NZ, Town Hall (x2)
1967-03-31 Finsbury Park Astoria (x2)
1967-04-01 Ipswich, Gaumont (x2)
1967-04-02 Worcester, Gaumont (x2)
1967-04-05 Leeds, Odeon (x2)
1967-04-06 Glasgow, Odeon (x2)
1967-04-07 Carlisle, ABC (x2)
1967-04-08 Chesterfield, ABC (x2)
1967-04-09 Liverpool, Empire (x2)
1967-04-11 Bedford, Granada (x2)
1967-04-12 Hadleigh, Kingsway (x2)
1967-04-13 Wolverhampton, Gaumont (x2)
1967-04-14 Bolton, Odeon (x2)
1967-04-15 Blackpool, Odeon (x2)
1967-04-16 Leicester, De Monfort Hall (x2)
1967-04-19 Birmingham, Odeon (x2)
1967-04-20 Lincoln, ABC (x2)
1967-04-21 Newcastle, City Hall (x2)
1967-04-22 Manchester, Odeon (x2)
1967-04-23 Hanley, Gaumont (x2)
1967-04-25 Bristol, Colston Hall (x2)
1967-04-26 Cardiff, Capitol (x2)
1967-04-27 Aldershot, ABC (x2)
1967-04-28 Slough, Adelphi (x2)
1967-04-29 Bournmouth, Winter Gardens (x2)
1967-04-30 Tooting, Granada (x2)
1967-04-02 London, Palladium
1967-08-06 Stockton, Fiesta Club (Scott Walker)
1967-08-26 "Beat Club" TV, Bremen (Walker Brothers)
1967-09-05 Dusty Springfield TV Show "It Must Be Dusty"
1967-09-09 "Dee Time" TV
1967-09 'Cabaret engagements'
1967-12-22 Frankie Howerd TV Show
1967-12-25 "Down At The Old Bull & Bush" ATV
1968-01-02 Osaka, Festival Hall (televised)
1968-01-03 Tokyo, Nippon Budokan (Korakuen Stadium)
1968-01-04 Osaka
1968-01-06 Fukuoka
1968-01-07 Nagoya
1968-01-09 Shizuoka, Sunpu Kaikan
1968-03-19 "Cilla" (Black) TV Show
1968-05-08 Dusty Springfield TV Show "It Must Be Dusty"
1968-05-12 NME Poll Winners Concert, London, Empire Pool
1968-05-12 Frankie Howerd TV Show "Howerd's Hour"
"Top Of The Pops" TV
"It Must Be Dusty" TV
"Billy Cotton's Music Hall" TV
"Dee Time" TV
1968-06 Bolton (cancelled)
1968-06 Birmingham
1968-06-16 Bournemouth, Pavilion Theatre (x2)
1968-06-21 Brighton, Dome (x2)
1968-09? Wolverhampton, Club Lafayette
1968-09-27 "Esther & Abi Ofarim" TV Show
1968-10-01 "Mr & Mrs Music" TV Show (Hatch & Trent)
1968-10-04 Finsbury Park, Astoria (x2)
1968-10-05 Manchester, Odeon (x2)
1968-10-06 Bradford, Gaumont (x2)
1968-10-09 Edinburgh, ABC (x2)
1968-10-10 Newcastle, City Hall (x2)
1968-10-11 Birmingham, Odeon (x2)
1968-10-13 Liverpool, Empire (x2)
1968-10 Chester, ABC
1968-10-20 Coventry
1968 Manchester Gaumont????
1968 Northern Cabaret Engagements"
1968 London. Palladium "Save Rave" Charity
1968-12-22 "Frost On Sunday" TV Show
1968-12-24 "Cilla" (Black) TV Show
1969 Birmingham
1969-06-21 "Set 'Em Up Joe" TV Show (sings Lights Of Cincinnati)
1969-07-04 Brighton, Dome (x2)
1969-07-06 Blackpool, ABC (x2) (yellow programme >>>>>>)
1969-07-27 Blackpool, ABC (also yellow programme >>>>>>)
1969 Wythenshawe, Golden Garter Theatre (week's booking cancelled)
1970-03 Scott Walker Tour of Japan ????
1970 Batley, Frontier Club 'residency'
1972-07-01 "2Gs & The Pop People" TV Show
1972 Manchester, Fagin's Club
1974 Manchester, Fagin's Club
1978 BUNNY'S CLUB, CLEETHORPES, ENGLAND

simond, Sunday, 18 May 2008 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

New interview in tandem with the barbican malarkey.

Freedom, Sunday, 9 November 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)


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