rolling #metoo thread for sexual harassment in the music industry so no one misses out when artists we don't give a fuck about like Tim Westwood and Bassnectar get caught

that reminds me that the concept of "girls! girls! girls!" -- the lumping of female people into an indistinct mass that didn't end in the 80s -- is at the top of my enemy list. i am still upset about Jane Wiedlin. It fucking sucks to know that all the people i was supposed to look up to were molested and abused.

One indirect positive result of the Rodney Bingenheimer news: It reminded me how much I enjoyed Jane Wiedlin's contribution to the L.A. punk oral history book, which in turn led me to purchase Kid Congo Powers's memoir (on audiobook), which I am loving.

Jane Wiedlin is amazing. She is super-talented, bold, funny, inconceivably cute and long before her time. To think that someone would look at her, an amazing and unique person, as nothing more than something to hump makes me see red.

this is one of the great 80s pop songs imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlRWUgID8Jw

"Rush Hour" goes

oooh it sends meeee

she was an amazing Joan of Arc too

Rush Hour is perfection

omg I love that dolphin video

Which is the 'LA punk oral history book' please?

probably We Got the Neutron Bomb (?)

She also had an essay in John Doe's Under The Big Black Sun: A Personal History of LA Punk IIRC

Yes I was referring to Under the Big Black Sun. I guess "oral history" was not the right word for it, but she (like most of the authors) reads her section for the audiobook, which is great.

Excellent, thanks.

https://pitchfork.com/news/jermaine-jackson-sued-for-alleged-1988-sexual-assault/

Paula Abdul accuses former ‘American Idol’ producer Nigel Lythgoe of sexual assault

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https://www.stereogum.com/2246632/t-i-and-tiny-harris-sued-for-sexual-assault-battery/news/

Man accused of kidnapping woman, holding her against will for 4-5 years at SE Houston home

The man in question is apparently the rapper Viper, probably best known for his album You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA9J6lgoI-Q

That account is run by his UK-based label, and the top comment says:

i had no idea this was happening until like an hour ago, this shit is fucking crazy
ill probably make like one longform video about all my experiences with the guy and then leave this shit dormant
stuff is still on the site if you want it, i think ill try and donate some of this stuff to the victim
outsider records will probably stop there
cutting contact obviously
thanks for all of your support over the years it means a lot :) - kettle

there's a vaporwave dude called Nmesh who once did a collaboration with Viper - or more accurately he paid him $50 to do a few verses and produced a track around it. it sounded awesome, he clearly put a lot of effort into it (Nmesh not Viper), and then at the last moment pulled it because apparently he started doing research on the guy and was just like "uhhh this guy is a really bad person, I'm not putting my name next to his"

hmmm I'm also starting to remember some Redditors trying to catfish him as an underage girl and finding out it was way way too easy

The fanbase around him was always weird and fucked up fetishization bullshit

viper has always been a huge piece of shit. i remember c. 2016 friends of mine who had interacted with him personally telling me horrid things. but clearly now he's a lot worse than merely a huge piece of shit.

Look, you have to separate the art that was exclusively consumed by racist 4chan teens from the artist who kidnaps people

I do have a friend who does not fall into that category who is heartbroken by this. I'd say Viper's reach is zoomer rymers in general (probably not worth taking a look there atm).

there is something genuinely weird and suspicious about this dude's "career", like none of the stuff on the RapperViperVEVO channel I think is actually made by him, I've always thought someone just cracked his YouTube and Spotify accounts and uploaded a ton of shit without him actually knowing about it. I mean if you ever hear him talk or read an interview with him he is def not all there

yeah i've never got a handle on it either. the way he's clearly rapping on screen but you can't hear anything. one of my friends who ostensibly collaborated with him on a few occasions i'm pretty sure was no nearer the truth.

think i stopped enjoying the viper joke when (iirc) he abandoned his family during a hurricane. again 2016 or so.

I do have a friend who does not fall into that category who is heartbroken by this. I'd say Viper's reach is zoomer rymers in general (probably not worth taking a look there atm).

well i guess i literally count as one. though i hardly have much time for rym's 'community' (i mean i'm here right)

always wondered what the fans of this guy were actually fans of, I mean clearly none of the stuff he's done in the last 10 years (or longer?) is actually made by him, and if you do any research at all into him you will find out that he is clearly insane and a sex predator, idk maybe that's where the intrigue is, like it is kinda funny/interesting that nobody can figure out how his early stuff was made because Viper himself can't really say

probably mostly him having been (somehow) an inexhaustible meme - the youtube channel extends on it massively - peppered, or 'validated', by secondary appreciation of the hazy push-button cloud rap thing. i've seen people talk about the early music as if it was somehow quite radical. and it isn't?? but i guess in light of lil b, study beats and so on coming later i can guess why someone might assume that idk.

*frogsb spending three hours browsing a /mu/ page where they use words like "dindu" and "goyslop"*

"always wondered what the fans of this guy were actually fans of"

what do those words mean Whiney I've never heard them before

now I wish I hadn't looked them up, yuck

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dindu
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Goyslop

a certain music vlogger had better not have covered this fucker I swear to god

can we not spread the chanslime around even if it's just to marvel at how gross it is? at least the cucking stuff was useful for explaining right wing psychology everything else is just fascist noise

potty g. kettlegarten

xpost: sorry

sorry I didn't mean you specifically

i remember seeing stories about him being a creep nearly a decade ago but this is well beyond even that, pretty horrific

like none of the stuff on the RapperViperVEVO channel I think is actually made by him

i think he just gave the channel owner a bunch of videos of him rapping in front of a green screen and let them do whatever with it. i don't think his stupid meme fandom even pretended to care about any music he made since they found out about him but i think some of them did convince themselves that some of his early albums were actually good idk

i don't know this guy but the news report on him is completely fucking insane but I also don't understand: the cops came in april, saw the victim and didn't do anything? then came back now and she's nowhere to be found?

She was pregnant when she was kidnapped. I wonder what happened to the baby.

yeah that story has a lot of details and leaves a lot of questions

dont think he's gonna see the light of day again I'm guessing it's even worse than what you see in the article

https://pitchfork.com/news/russell-simmons-sued-by-drew-dixon-for-alleging-sexual-assault-accusers-have-thirst-for-fame/#intcid=_pitchfork-bottom-recirc-v2_2e838be8-d67d-4bed-a582-14bd1843e8ab_similar2-3_fallback_cral-top2-2

I wish they didn't always have to publicise these people's talking points which are always the same anyway and give the worst people in the world ammunition

he has a point though, think about all those big names who got famous accusing people of sexual assault, there's...

uhm....

uhh, well there's...

uhh....

errr.....

hmm