HPs tend to last longer than Epsons, imo.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 10 August 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link
make you install all this shitty software for the scanner if you use macs tho
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 10 August 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ yeah, paper handling is kinda crappy, too.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 10 August 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm the kind of guy who needs an artisan cheesemonger, an antiquarian book store and a speciality off-license at the bottom of my street before I can even start to feel comfortable
^ this bit in his blog made me mentally thwunk him in the nads w/ a rolling pin when I read it
― Joerg Hi Dere (NickB), Monday, 10 August 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Eh IDK, he might be a douchebag but that reads like jokey self-deprecation
― Tim Krul ringmaster (DJ Mencap), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I allowed for that by only doing it gently in a jokey way.
― Joerg Hi Dere (NickB), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Is The Field's "The More That I Do" hp?
― claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i think a big part of hp is sounding like its recorded on a dictaphone/all-in-one printing and scanning capabilities
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
so it's essentially "lo-fi fuzzy/shoegaze pop music"? Would Spectrum's "How You Satisfy Me" be hypnagogic if GBV covered it?
― claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
uh examples of HP are Emeralds, Pocahaunted, Ariel Pink, Skaters, Lamborghini Crystal
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
really can't believe i just posted that btw
would you say those bands form the HP Canon?
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
According to the article, it's Skaters first and foremost, as well as the works of the individual works of Ferraro and Clark (Lamborghini Crystal, Edward Flex, Black Joker, Monopoly Child Star Searchers, Vodka Soap). Also, along with Ariel Pink, Pocohaunted, and Emeralds, there's Zola Jesus, Gary War, Sore Eros, The Super Vacations, Infinity Window, Oneohtrix Point Never, Orphan Fairytale, Dolphins Into The Future, Ducktails.....did I leave any out?
― Dan S, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link
tbf it is a pretty definite aesthetic that makes sense straight away when you start listing
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I was only asking to make another computer brand joke, tbh.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, but I was too ashamed after my last post I just couldn't
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
that's okay, keep it ep, son.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the citations of individual works that had influence on the sound of these artists are interesting: Tom Tom Club, Marc Hunter's "Big City Talk", Don Henley's "Boys Of Summer", "Running Up That Hill", The Ghostbuster Soundtrack, new age music.
I also love the non-musical ingluences that James Ferraro and Spencer Clark list: Ghostbusters, surf movies, Beverly Hills 90210, Russian Theosophist PD Ouspensky, And the cultural totems and roadside temples: Atlantis, dolphins, KFC, Hard Rock Cafes, TV dinners, strip clubs, gyms, and celebrities.
― Dan S, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link
The Wire are falling asleep with all this hypnagogic pop; they should wake up and get into some hypnopompic pop.
― moley, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link
it's Skaters first and foremost, as well as the works of the individual works of Ferraro and Clark (Lamborghini Crystal, Edward Flex, Black Joker, Monopoly Child Star Searchers, Vodka Soap). Also, along with Ariel Pink, Pocohaunted, and Emeralds, there's Zola Jesus, Gary War, Sore Eros, The Super Vacations, Infinity Window, Oneohtrix Point Never, Orphan Fairytale, Dolphins Into The Future, Ducktails.....did I leave any out?
Really though, only Ferraro's solo work, Dolphins and Ducktails I can see fitting the Hypnastoopid Pop glove, the rest is vastly different from eachother...
I still cannot believe The Wire didn't tell Keenan to fuck off with this
― rizzx, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link
"The Wire has gotten nearly as silly as the NME."Well the Wire has been staffed by former NME writers since the mid- to late 80s so making up genres to slot music they wnat to tell you about is nothing that is too surprising.
Unfortunately there is a lack of ideas/argument at the mo. Still look at it in train stations but it often stays at the station.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 08:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Look for it in train stations, have a rapid scan through Invisible Jukebox, put it back on the shelf... knowhorrimean?
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link
no I don't, I'm an American ... you either get it by subscription or find it in fancier bookstores or record stores.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Look for it in fancy bookstores, have a rapid scan through Invisible Jukebox, put it back on the shelf... knowhorrimean?
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link
William Basinski in the new one, btw. Interested to read it. Going to buy the book shortly too. I believe it has Haino in it?
― krakow, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link
xp actually, look for it at fancy bookstore, look to see if any questionable genres have been coined, look to see if anyone I know has anything reviewed in it, put it back on shelf.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Every genre is 'questionable'.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Have to say that I do quite enjoy the Hello-ish full page photos of mopey-looking musicians in their scuzzy domiciles.
― Joerg Hi Dere (NickB), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Hello?
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Not enough avant-gardists glowering at manky old teapots.
― Joerg Hi Dere (NickB), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:31 (fourteen years ago) link
The Wire would be vastly improved if they printed more letters to the editor.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:34 (fourteen years ago) link
That's a good point I think.
― Joerg Hi Dere (NickB), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:38 (fourteen years ago) link
They should def print Tom D's letters :-)
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't write any anymore!
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Because I don't buy it often enough to get annoyed enough to write a letter!
um so can someone pls point me towards the poppier end of this stuff?
― (9/9/8/9) (cozwn), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Ariel Pink I spose?
― an hesher (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I saw them play about a week ago and they had a song that sounded like Def Leppard, I could get with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2foFbDYkBY
dude who uploaded this needs to play the tape through maybe 20 more times then stick it back up, and Ariel Pink never needs to write a song again
― flashback to 2007: with this guardian blog (DJ Mencap), Friday, 18 December 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I think there is something in this. I've been listening to a lot of Gary War, Emeralds, Rangers, Oneohtrix recently and I can see some relation, although no justification for a "scene" to be created - a lot of the stuff on the Olde English Spelling Bee label sounds similar. As an Englishman of a certain age it is evocative of ET era Spielberg films, of an America I'm not sure ever existed but created by a weird juxtaposition of watching Happy Days in northern England in the 1980s. A lot of these bands also seem to be trying to recreate Loveless as cheaply as possible.
Liking Forest Swords too - this guy seems to be from near where I grew up, near Liverpool, and is adding Burial to the mix. Good stuff.
― kraudive, Friday, 28 May 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Creating a such-and-such that seemed to exist but never did is always a good plan to me. I applaud unmusics, &c.
I am fighting off an infection and hope I don't get gangrene or something equally amputate-able.
― bamcquern, Saturday, 29 May 2010 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
I love the comments btwhttp://crystalvibrations.blogspot.com/2011/02/hypnogogic-sound-vibration-tape.html
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link
RIP Volcanic Tongue
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 12 January 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
Picked up David Keenan's novel 'This Is Memorial Device' in a charity shop the other day and was surprised to find what I am convinced is myself mentioned in it very very briefly in passing early on in the book. My fleeting appearance is rather negative, but it's not an unfair description and has amused me greatly. Other than that, the book seems pretty promising from the first few chapters.
― brain (krakow), Thursday, 9 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
haha wow, that's amazing (as in the superlative, not as in surprising, obviously, given how often you and keenan will have rubbed shoulders). subject matter is v much up my street despite my reservations on mr keenan as a writer
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 9 January 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link
I got super confused when I saw this yesterday:
https://images.roughtrade.com/product/images/files/000/185/505/hero/open-uri20191205-9868-1gwqcsx?1575557819
― Death to (NickB), Thursday, 9 January 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link
Amazed that I never posted on this thread
I've never felt any ire toward neologisms like "hypnagogic pop" because widely-regarded genre tags seem to take forever to stick, and sticking them to a particular scene has always been folly unless you're a purist. Grouping a bunch of contemporary sounds under a tag, regardless of some variation, is more of a shorthand way of saying "if you like this band, you may also like these others" and retroactively throwing prior work in there seems like an extension of the same.
Now we have data science analyzing listening habits and the likes of Spotify giving us monikers like "Escape Room" that qualify groups of artists that listeners seem to seek in parallel
― babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 10 January 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link
"Escape Room"?!?
https://festivalpeak.com/what-is-escape-room-and-why-is-it-one-of-my-top-genres-on-spotify-a886372f003f
shit's getting weird
― The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Friday, 10 January 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link
'Hypnagogic pop' doesn't strike me as sillier than 'impressionism' or 'cubism'.
― pomenitul, Friday, 10 January 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link
never forgethttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microhouse
― babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 10 January 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link