the whole thing seems to be ridiculously ambitious
― ufo, Friday, 15 December 2023 09:13 (five months ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C02OilBI0Yz/%0A%0AHow%20are%20they%20not%20losing%20money?%20For%20the%20amount%20of%20audience%20%C2%A3100%20per%20person%20doesn%E2%80%99t%20seem%20to%20cover%20the%20insanity%20of%20the%20set%20+%20crew,%20orchestra,%20choreographed%20performers%E2%80%A6.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2023 09:36 (five months ago) link
Wtf my text got inside the link…
Anyways
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C02OilBI0Yz/
This looks insane. Idk how they are not losing money with this? The set, crew, amount of performers and planning seems like it wouldn’t get covered by the audience volume and £100 sounds like a bargain for what they did here.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2023 09:39 (five months ago) link
yeah just completely absurd. i hope that they're going to release an official video of this or something
― ufo, Friday, 15 December 2023 09:52 (five months ago) link
Whaaaaaaaaat
― Cow_Art, Friday, 15 December 2023 10:14 (five months ago) link
the fuck
Bizarre. Like a deconstructed version of Kendall Roy's 40th.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2023 10:19 (five months ago) link
you can probably guess what i think of this lmao
who would have thought a band that is all boutique gimmicks would go down the punchdrunk theatre/secret cinema route eh
― imago, Friday, 15 December 2023 12:11 (five months ago) link
no one would care about the gimmicks if the music wasn't genearlly pretty good-to-great
― ufo, Friday, 15 December 2023 12:31 (five months ago) link
That live setup is more than a gimmick. That’s bonkers.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 15 December 2023 12:34 (five months ago) link
yeah, i don't care about all the release gimmicks & secrecy but this is a genuinely impressive wild spectacle
― ufo, Friday, 15 December 2023 12:41 (five months ago) link
So this is what you can do with some Adele royalties and a vision? How does a mid-level act pull the resources for all this together?
― bendy, Friday, 15 December 2023 13:06 (five months ago) link
I very much wish my first thought upon seeing photos of this wasn't "who funded this" but these are cynical times
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 15 December 2023 13:12 (five months ago) link
Insane spectacles with mysterious funding? Progression to a religious cult is nearly complete.
― Chris L, Friday, 15 December 2023 13:20 (five months ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/gillespeterson/posts/pfbid0LQMWW4CQbmFGhda24oMBuWCRJZBRxDjdb2ZmHpXcGqMjqKKPG58st3qFv4w3obuZl
― dan selzer, Friday, 15 December 2023 14:34 (five months ago) link
Yeah got to agree in the end the music is what makes it all work and judging by the videos of the performance they sound amazing live. Cleo Sol in particular is a great vocalist.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:37 (five months ago) link
anyone familiar with their music knows they take their craft seriously, all the stage production and extra stuff is fun imo
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 December 2023 15:01 (five months ago) link
I'd like to see whoever just decided to chill back in the room with the dude and the TV.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 December 2023 15:24 (five months ago) link
from the Giles Peterson FB post: This hasn’t ever been done on such grand scale from the private sector.Any talk of ripping off the fans couldn’t be further from the truth - the cost of putting on this happening wasn’t about cash it was about Myth…
It's such a throwback to a different time and economy where a performer can leverage the success of their musical vision to do all this extra stuff. With the extra stuff being weird.
― bendy, Friday, 15 December 2023 15:55 (five months ago) link
Yeah got to agree in the end
is there anything in the post besides bendy's quote?
― bae (sic), Friday, 15 December 2023 18:06 (five months ago) link
Oh sorry I was xposting ufo
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2023 19:08 (five months ago) link
Regarding how the gimmicks wouldn’t work if the music and performance itself wasn’t good which it is. I wasn’t commenting on Gilles’ review.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2023 19:09 (five months ago) link
I'm curious anyway!
― bae (sic), Friday, 15 December 2023 19:30 (five months ago) link
Oh you mean the review? Here it is
Reviews will be everywhere but here’s my take…@saultglobal the phenomenon. First and most important - the music - faultless - from the opening playlist - Fela …. Ebo Taylor… A grand orchestral score with huge choir , 2 harps and every instrument under the sun - musicians spread across 5 stages pretty much encircling the 2500 audience - imagine Jools ‘ show on a grander scale… the sound was all round with not a single feedback all night… it was almost 3 hours of music - George Clinton would have been proud - a Mothership Connection London style!walking into the venue immersive and in line via a fridge and mirrored cactus hall… taking in art, fashion - choreography, lighting and film - this could have graced any world leading museum or gallery - there were guests a plenty - Simz - Chronnix- Kiwanuka - Kid Sister - Ganayva- and of course the force that is Cleo Sol…I tend to avoid the Arena type mega events where Beyoncé, Adele and the like produce their shows - but this was as ambitious but as a ‘One Off’ … unheard of - economically impossible to justify if you were to try and convince any suits in the accounts department - I saw no sign of commerciality - Inflo would have invested at least 10 x more than he got back from ticket sales.This hasn’t ever been done on such grand scale from the private sector.Any talk of ripping off the fans couldn’t be further from the truth - the cost of putting on this happening wasn’t about cash it was about Myth… ps thank you @pomontenegro for somehow obtaining a written set list !!!!
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2023 19:32 (five months ago) link
sweet!
― bae (sic), Friday, 15 December 2023 19:59 (five months ago) link
There's physically no way their next shows (outside of London) will be the insane total-experience of this show, surely.
But I'm going to be more tortured now than I was already, that there's no way my health will allow going to the NY show (which will focus on my second favorite album of theirs, '5').
Makes me sad that, of all the obvious things to be negative and cynical about in this era, people would approach Sault that way. "Gimmicks," "funding," etc. For some people, Sault/Inflo would be damned either way. They keep the focus on the music, totally indeoendent, on celebrating Black art in multitudinous form, even giving away the music, instead of focusing on celebrity, and the music creating genuine word-of-mouth excitement over several years--it's "trying to create mystery," "gimmicks," "a cult," etc. But they get any taste of success, mainstream praise, etc., it's try-hard, hype, etc. Weird stuff, to me. I for one wish there were far more acts approaching things like Sault, and far fewer megacorporations in pop musician form.
― Soundslike, Friday, 15 December 2023 21:23 (five months ago) link
I mean I agree with you, but I don't think most acts could afford to pull off such a thing, given that most acts these days are probably going into personal debt just going on short tours across the midwest
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 15 December 2023 22:46 (five months ago) link
So let’s be thankful there’s someone still willing to do this.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 15 December 2023 23:03 (five months ago) link
apparently they're never releasing the new material they played live so that's the sort of gimmick that is bullshit
― ufo, Sunday, 17 December 2023 21:08 (five months ago) link
Not sure how/why that's bullshit. They don't owe us anything in particular, if they want to create a one-off experience it seems like that's their call. It's not like Sault in general has been stingy with their fans!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 17 December 2023 21:18 (five months ago) link
they can do what they want and i can think ultra-exclusive stuff like that is dumb and obnoxious. i think the same about the wu-tang album they auctioned off for instance
i don't have an issue with the live show being a crazy one-off production, there was obviously a ridiculous expense there and live shows are inherently ephemeral
― ufo, Sunday, 17 December 2023 23:47 (five months ago) link
I guess it wouldn't feel quite as exclusive if they actually toured this new stuff through secondary and even tertiary cities, which of course they won't do (no judgment - I sure as hell wouldn't do that either). Still, the idea of some poor Sault fan in Kansas having to make do with crappy YT videos and IG reels if they want to hear new Sault music does seem a little unfair
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 18 December 2023 00:53 (five months ago) link
they are not exactly known for being stingy with releasing music - theyve released what, a dozen albums over the last 4 years? Many of which were free? I feel like that kid in kansas is getting a pretty fair deal
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 18 December 2023 03:23 (five months ago) link