Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

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^ I wonder how high this will make it, too.

kshighway, Monday, 10 August 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

I think Wilco's "At Least That What You Said," which won't chart, should be in the Top 10 for best songs of the decade.

kshighway, Monday, 10 August 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

Good shout on Gillian Welch. Sun Kil Moon's Ghosts of the Great Highway and April would both be top ten for me... It's bound to be Kid A for Pitchfork isn't it?

Wax Cat, Monday, 10 August 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

Why doesn't any other music mag/sites do ambitious lists like this anymore?

Because the decade isn't fucking over yet?

Matos W.K., Monday, 10 August 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

Johnny, which do you think is better? Amnesiac? HTTT? In Rainbows?

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It would be hard to pick between Amnesiac and In Rainbows.

Good man! I bet CYHSY isn't in the Top 10. But Silent Shout has to be!

Ghosts Of The Great Highway would be a terrific choice, too. Maybe The Clientele!

(Sorry for so many "!" Kinda looking forward to this).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 10 August 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

loving kshighway tbh

crutboard dudes get subway, totally (J0rdan S.), Monday, 10 August 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks, J0rdan! :-D One of the few times someone has said something nice to me instead of trying to chase me off a thread. I really appreciate it.

kshighway, Monday, 10 August 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

young liars>>>>dear science any day of the week

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 10 August 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

I'd love to see a "Best Bands/Artist of the Decade" type list for guys like Spoon who have been consistently great throughout the decade, but don't make any of those big statement type albums that these other list tend to reward.

Moreno, Monday, 10 August 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

posting this list during summer 2010 would have been nicer.. the last 4 months of the 90's included some great releases, and i'm sure 2009 won't be any different.

pitchfork's assessment of 2000s music is far less interesting to me than their assessment of 70s 80s or 90s music. i will read their lists as they post them, and i'm not expecting to appreciate most of their favorites, as i don't find "chamber pop" along the lines of antony and the johnsons or fleet foxes to be all that interesting.. i also never understood the hype regarding battles, mountain goats, bright eyes, my morning jacket, destroyer, fiery furnaces, etc, etc, etc .. and i'm sure these bands will be thoroughly fellated before the festivities are through.

billstevejim, Monday, 10 August 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

I'd love to see a "Best Bands/Artist of the Decade" type list for guys like Spoon who have been consistently great throughout the decade, but don't make any of those big statement type albums that these other list tend to reward.

Good call. I was just making the point last night to Kenan and the Rev that I've never loved any of Spoon's albums, but all of them are "pretty good" and they'd have a pretty stellar greatest-hits collection at this point.

jaymc, Monday, 10 August 2009 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

If only I was a mountain goat, to feel the force of online fellation.

The last Gooner optimist: (a hoy hoy), Monday, 10 August 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

x-post Yes, and London Calling came out in December 1979.

President Keyes, Monday, 10 August 2009 21:42 (sixteen years ago)

yeah.. so did the wall

billstevejim, Monday, 10 August 2009 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

In my case, I wasn't interested in a sequel.

― Ned Raggett

The anticipation for Ned's Top 136 Albums of the 2000s begins... here, with me. I for one would find it infinitely more interesting than the Pfork end of decade features (though I am looking forward to individual lists from a few writers, and to those essays as well).

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 10 August 2009 21:44 (sixteen years ago)

It all kicks off on Monday, August 17, when we'll begin a weeklong countdown of our Top 500 Tracks of the 2000s (most of which you'll be able to listen to)

Does anyone else have trouble playing those stupid Lala embeds or is it just me? I could before, then I created an account at Lala, and now I can't anymore. Fuckers.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 August 2009 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

yeah theyre retarded. works sometimes, doesnt others

we make rub' dongs from 4" to 6" (k3vin k.), Monday, 10 August 2009 22:22 (sixteen years ago)

The anticipation for Ned's Top 136 Albums of the 2000s begins... here, with me. I for one would find it infinitely more interesting than the Pfork end of decade features (though I am looking forward to individual lists from a few writers, and to those essays as well).

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, August 10, 2009 9:44 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I sure hope Tom Ewing does a Top 100 singles of the decade list. The one he did for the nineties is WITHOUT QUESTION my favorite list of all time. And it's how I discovered ILM in fact!

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 10 August 2009 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not fuckin. I'm saying no one goes as hard as pfork in the "making lists" dept. Who else is gonna do 500 songs/200 albums?

That's a lot sure, but I def don't think we are guilty of doing many lists, or listicles. I also think having streams of most songs cushions the could-be bloat and allows the tracks list to work as a library that people can/ideally will return to as much as a list. As for LPs, contrary to opinion we cover a wide range of music than are credited with, go in depth w/reviews on way more records than most pubs, and this decade saw the release of much more music than most. Proportionally, I'm not sure 200 records on our site from the 00s is much different than 100 from a print mag a few decades ago. Or maybe I just want the non-obvious things, which will populate the second 100, to get some due.

As for why now...Well, for one thing, Spin and RS did their 90s lists in Aug/Sept a decade ago, and so I assumed they'd do that again. I also thought Blender would stick it out and end with a big 00s blowout around the same time. Most of all though, by the time everyone in the friggin world runs their own 00s and 2009 stuff, the last thing you all will want in Jan/Feb is another gigantic list, bigger than the others. Think of how much list fatigue you all get by the time our year-end list comes out anyway. This being the internet, we can amend the list later with extra blurbs if need be-- not re-rank but just add an extra page, not a big thing. On the whole the imperfections of doing this now vs. the imperfections of doing it later were weighed and for once we were into being first with our stuff instead of last (which, next to pazz and jop, we tend to be at a year's end). Doing this a few months later wasn't going to change the outcome much anyway: I doubt many 09 LPs would make it either way. Not sure I'll personally vote for more than one or two.

It seems like a lot of content, but it's really not as much as it looks-- three lists on our end, artists lists, a timeline wrapup of events, four essays. Were this a print mag, that's pretty much what any year-end issue would look like, let alone a decade edition. We're just spreading it out over seven/eight weeks.

scottpl, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

How dare you have a plan, Scott. It's supposed to be all improv, to be more real.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

scott i feel like it's worth saying you are a patient and awesome dude for coming to every inane ilm pitchfork thread and representing the brand with reason and class.

wishes to be referred under the pseudonym of kronos (call all destroyer), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

I also think having streams of most songs cushions the could-be bloat and allows the tracks list to work as a library that people can/ideally will return to as much as a list.

For the record, I wasn't complaining about the idea. I just don't like that Lala won't always work (for me, and possibly others as well).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

yeah same, i like the idea a lot but prefer those youtube bottom things

we make rub' dongs from 4" to 6" (k3vin k.), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:32 (sixteen years ago)

why is it only in the last week that i have seen ppl refer to this decade as "the aughts" and not before?

unban dictionary (blueski), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

Discovery will be no. 1.

David Katz (davek_00), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:35 (sixteen years ago)

If I had my way:

(1) just awful

(2) even worse

― kshighway, Monday, August 10, 2009 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You are just cruising for a SB, aren't you?

Alex in SF, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:35 (sixteen years ago)

scott i feel like it's worth saying you are a patient and awesome dude for coming to every inane ilm pitchfork thread and representing the brand with reason and class.

^^OTM

jaymc, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

why is it only in the last week that i have seen ppl refer to this decade as "the aughts" and not before?

On Andrew Unterberger's countdown of his top 100 songs of the decade, he repeatedly calls it the "Naughty Oughties." The more often he uses the term, the funnier it gets.

jaymc, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:42 (sixteen years ago)

You are just cruising for a SB, aren't you?

yah its pretty terrible when some1 like different music from u ~~~ its like theyre not even human!

♀ + ♂ + ♋ = ☿ (Lamp), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:44 (sixteen years ago)

Slightly off topic: Always been curious to see their original "Top 100 albums of the 90s" list complete with the little blurbs about each selection. Anyone have it saved or know how to access it at this point?

Evan, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

Scott, I'd really love to see that first Top of the 90s list. Unless you guys are embarrassed of it or something, any way I could get a look at it?

Evan, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

Original Pfork top 100 of the 90s list, no blurbs:

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/antoine_doinel/pitchforkmedia_top_100_albums_of_the_1990s__original_list_

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 00:20 (sixteen years ago)

and there it is. I think like six people voted in that, from what I was told years later. Ideally about 50 people will vote this time.

scottpl, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 00:34 (sixteen years ago)

Surprised to see Uncle Tupelo on that list. I love Anodyne, but didn't get the sense that it would rank up there on a best of the 1990s poll for an indie pub.

kshighway, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 00:42 (sixteen years ago)

lol Walt Mink

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

That Walt Mink album is one of my favorite albums of the 90s.

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:16 (sixteen years ago)

I remember exactly what I listened to in the 80s, and I remember exactly what I've listened to in this decade, but the 90s are a complete blur to me. Most of the Pitchfork list seems familiar, but not exactly likeable. If pressed, I could probably make a list of 100 albums from the 1990s that I like, but I'm really better off leaving a lot of that behind.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:22 (sixteen years ago)

okay lol I just saw that El Producto is on there as well as Miss Happiness and yes, that is very lol

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:25 (sixteen years ago)

I remember exactly what I listened to in the 80s, and I remember exactly what I've listened to in this decade, but the 90s are a complete blur to me. Most of the Pitchfork list seems familiar, but not exactly likeable. If pressed, I could probably make a list of 100 albums from the 1990s that I like, but I'm really better off leaving a lot of that behind.

100% OTM.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:27 (sixteen years ago)

wait dan which walt mink album is better? i remember dl'ing them in lol college once.

wishes to be referred under the pseudonym of kronos (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:29 (sixteen years ago)

I love Miss Happiness to an unreasonable degree and basically feel that every subsequent album is worse than the one that precedes it.

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:30 (sixteen years ago)

OK I am absolutely LOVING that Andrew Unterberger top 100 songs of the decade list posted upthread, but FUCKING HELL it's click, read, click the back button, read, click, read, click the back button, read, click, read, click the back button, read, click previous entries, wait five seconds for the youtubes to load, click, read, click the back button...

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:32 (sixteen years ago)

just so y'all are ready for this I feel like I oughta let you know I'm gunning for all ten of the top ten slots & have been lobbying hard for em all year

am willing to make room for The Fix but that's about it

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:38 (sixteen years ago)

congrats in advance on all the fellating

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:40 (sixteen years ago)

it was rough going at time but I kept my mind focused on my goal

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:41 (sixteen years ago)

Nothing worth having comes easily.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:42 (sixteen years ago)

how the plaque on my wall is gonna read

BEST RECORDS OF THE 2000s

1. Me
2. Me
3. Scarface, The Fix
4. Me
5. Me
6. Me
7. Me
8. Me
9. Me
10. Me

the plaque will be hung above an eternal flame burning in a small alcove in my backyard. it costs fifty cents to see it, unless you were instrumental in the poll that resulted in the plaque: then you get a discount.

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:47 (sixteen years ago)

when you cross into the alcove you trip a sensor that plays a snippet of a Justice Roberts saying "Man is Nairf!"

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:48 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwajTekSAcM

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:52 (sixteen years ago)

If Ms. Hoffs is included I'll pony up $1.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:54 (sixteen years ago)

what should I switch up on the mix?

CaptainLorax, Monday, 11 January 2010 06:06 (sixteen years ago)

i mean what else would fit

CaptainLorax, Monday, 11 January 2010 06:07 (sixteen years ago)

a kashi granola bar with a hacky-sack stapled to it

ke$nan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 January 2010 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

well obviously it's mostly happy rap, I can't stand ghetto/booty shit

CaptainLorax, Monday, 11 January 2010 06:12 (sixteen years ago)

dat nigga delmar to thread

balearific, Monday, 11 January 2010 06:20 (sixteen years ago)


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