"Use other words please."

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My issue isn't with the concept of an artistic dialogue, it's just with leaning on the phrase as a smarty-pants way to say "is influenced by"...
Such as this:

But as much as Infinite Spring is in dialogue with the pop-rock canon...

enochroot, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 18:39 (five months ago) link

obviously it's an improvement on "is influenced by", which ppl shd stop saying

mark s, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 18:48 (five months ago) link

Next day, a large ship, the Rachel, was descried, bearing directly down upon the Pequod, all her spars thickly clustering with men. At the time the Pequod was making good speed through the water; but as the broad-winged windward stranger shot nigh to her, the boastful sails all fell together as blank bladders that are burst, and all life fled from the smitten hull.

"Bad news; she brings bad news," muttered the old Manxman. But ere her commander, who, with trumpet to mouth, stood up in his boat; ere he could hopefully hail, Ahab's voice was heard.

"Hast seen the White Whale?"

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 18:52 (five months ago) link

thats right

mark s, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 18:53 (five months ago) link

a whale worth hunting, mind you, I salute my captain always

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:37 (five months ago) link

"quixotic"

stfu, wuth this fallacy-laden attitude anybody who ever set foot in a guitar center could be sancho's next homie.

(see? i can read classic literature too. it has fuck all to do with the music you're supposed to be telling me about, asshole. grrrr off to the irrationally angry thread)

she fell asleep with her hand around my throat (Austin), Saturday, 9 December 2023 15:50 (five months ago) link

OK but how you do *you* pronounce it?

Left, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:23 (five months ago) link

"is in tune with" is underrated

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:51 (five months ago) link

"rollicking" - this word is not real it really isn't

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:53 (five months ago) link

^first recorded use 1811, apparently(?)

This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2023 17:51 (five months ago) link

does it mean fucking

Left, Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:05 (five months ago) link

I don't know how else to interpret roll + frolic

Left, Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:06 (five months ago) link

It is meant to describe rock and roll that is polite and takes its shoes off

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:09 (five months ago) link

rollicking is a good vocab word to bust out in whimsical moments, but don't actually use it

she fell asleep with her hand around my throat (Austin), Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:23 (five months ago) link

obviously it's an improvement on "is influenced by", which ppl shd stop saying

― mark s, Wednesday, December 6, 2023 1:48 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

"is influenced by" is definitely presumptuous, but surely "in dialogue with" can mean something other than "influenced by?" Like a band who's never heard Spirit of Eden could nonetheless unknowingly be "in dialogue" with that album, right? As in channeling something without awareness of its lineage? Unless I'm misunderstanding the jargon, which is totally possible

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:39 (five months ago) link

I don't mind Don kee-ho-tay but Don quicks-oat bugs me.

Ditto Don Jew-on vs. Don Wan.

The explanation I have heard is that those anglicized pronunciations were prevalent when travel was rare.

; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 9 December 2023 20:01 (five months ago) link

I’ve never heard those pronunciations (beyond how “quixotic” is pronounced)

This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2023 20:25 (five months ago) link

....wait just a second! it's not pronounced like "smith"!?

she fell asleep with her hand around my throat (Austin), Saturday, 9 December 2023 20:37 (five months ago) link

xps personally I prefer 'in conference with'. mostly because of it being a lot like 'in dub conference'.

I have been guilty of using the i-word in conversation - i have spent two thirds of my life reading wikipedia you see - but i wouldn't use it in prose. bcuz inspired/impacted/other 'i's are better/closer/other 'er's etc

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 10 December 2023 00:43 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

"let's nut this out"

let's... not??

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 February 2024 11:14 (two months ago) link


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