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sylvester oughta pitch Gawker Media on a music blog, fer crissakes

From what I've heard, they've already got one in development.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 4 March 2006 06:19 (twenty years ago)

sylvester oughta pitch Gawker Media on a music blog, fer crissakes

From what I've heard, they've already got one in development.

-- Matthew C Perpetua (perpetu...), March 4th, 2006 12:19 AM.

blog under development, heh, that's rich.

― pot shot (zachary v.), Saturday, 4 March 2006 08:08 (twenty years ago)

mark s = maker upper

(=probbly my favourite nme piece)

the lydon stuff must be on ilm somewhere geoff, though i forget where (haha or what my line was!)

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 4 March 2006 14:08 (twenty years ago)

(haha note buried sub-"quote" of g.marcus discussin r.meltzer!)

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 4 March 2006 14:27 (twenty years ago)

i guess the Warlocks, are finally getting an eye for an eye... karma's a bitch.

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/w/warlocks/surgery.shtml

http://tuningforkmedia.blogspot.com/2005/09/nick-sylvester-unleashes-fuckin-fury.html

― rakka shan, Saturday, 4 March 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)

TS: "a promising career ruined!" VS "a ersatz non-story either way"

in the end the Voice is just another cheezy tabloid these days

WOMEN IN SEEING THROUGH MEN'S LAME SEDUCTION STRATEGIES SHOCKER

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 4 March 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

its unreal how revolting the majority of this thread and "whats on nick's playist" are. i understand some of you dont like him/his writing, but lets have some fucking class.

But people don't just dislike Nick's writing. They take great offense to the flippancy he displays, not only toward his subject matter, but for writing in general. He's that one "funny" guy (with the painfully unfunny column) at your local college rag with a press pass and an expense account: not merely a bad comedian, but an honest-to-God asshole who is just begging for a comeuppance.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 4 March 2006 15:50 (twenty years ago)

This thread is totally sarged out.

― ng-unit, Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)

i'm still waiting for that jaysonblair.gif atari penis riot CSS attack.

― midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

You might have to keep waiting.

WOMEN IN SEEING THROUGH MEN'S LAME SEDUCTION STRATEGIES SHOCKER

BUT IT WAS GOING TO WORK THIS TIME I MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY LEFT MY BASEMENT.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm still at a loss as to why the dude would make up not quotes or facts but the circumstances of said quotes and facts. That is, what in that article is actually made up versus inaccurate, other than the setting of that concluding conversation? What it reads like to me (and I didn't/couldn't read that too closely) is what might happen if he turned in a couple of drafts, his editor said it needed a better ending, and out of desperation/deadline frustration he tied it all together with some leftover or unused quotes.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:04 (twenty years ago)

(my memory of mark s's line on lydon: he has genuinely interesting things to say, but won't/can't say them unless you corner him & challenge him on his natural/lazy inclination to answer questions with provocative good-copy in-character lines)

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:31 (twenty years ago)

i've interviewed Lydon and i'd say he's completely aware of that, and does his best to make it as clear to you as he can from the minute you meet him that you'll get nothing out of him any other way. if he's not cornered/challenged he does the same sullen blank faux he can be just as automatic-pilot when he flips into his "genuinely interesting" mode.

In my interview, the most interesting stuff happened after the camera was gone and we just started chatting about Canadians and the Second World War. He brought it up, and he sounded much older than his years, almost as if he were old enough to remember the Blitz himself. Talked about stories he'd heard about the Canadian soldiers in the U.K. vs. the Americans after the war and so on... His basic thrust was, "you canadians are alright, and if it weren't for you we might've lost the war, but the Yanks take all the credit". It was a very weird and ancient uncle-ish thing to hear Johnny Rotten saying. Perhaps it was a very North American epiphany, but I glimpsed in that conversation how differently the war weighed on Brits, and maybe that 1945 wasn't so distant in 1976. Maybe I'm reading more into the brief exchange than I should, but it definitely stuck with me more than any of the interview theatrics.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:55 (twenty years ago)

sorry, that had nothing to do with nick sylvester.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:56 (twenty years ago)

("weird and ancient uncle-ish" = lydon since he wz abt 16!)

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:09 (twenty years ago)

And clearly part of his strange Dickensian charm (see also the Great Pop Things take on the Pistols).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:40 (twenty years ago)

ha ha.. too true. jack "artful dodger/h.r.pufnstuf" wild just passed away, leaving lydon the last of fagin's boys

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

You realize Mark S is truly Fagin and we are all his merry followers.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)

it's a hard knock life for us

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

wait, that was annie

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

& hove

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:51 (twenty years ago)

Same principle. (But who is Daddy Warbucks, the best war profiteer ever?)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:51 (twenty years ago)

chuck eddy

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

sorry, that had nothing to do with nick sylvester.

no, but it's possibly the most interesting thing on this thread. and, gosh, it's something somebody actually SAID too, as opposed to something someone made up ;)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 4 March 2006 23:01 (twenty years ago)

you know, the first time i read this thread i thought it said "nick sylvester = makes supper", and i was all set for a photo montage of a hipster microwaving ramen noodles.

― gear (gear), Saturday, 4 March 2006 23:32 (twenty years ago)

i open this thread like 3-4 times a day, yet don't read any of the posts. i guess it just has its draw.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 4 March 2006 23:39 (twenty years ago)

at the wolf eyes show last night, i walked over to the bar right outside the stage, and noticed that the bartender was reading an article about the nick debacle in the new york post!

― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 5 March 2006 00:21 (twenty years ago)

shut up britishes

― midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Sunday, 5 March 2006 00:26 (twenty years ago)

you know, the first time i read this thread i thought it said "nick sylvester = makes supper", and i was all set for a photo montage of a hipster microwaving ramen noodles.

And if Nick spilled his ramen, he could've made a flash animation of him using bounty = the quicker picker-upper.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 5 March 2006 00:32 (twenty years ago)

x-post Here's where I once again relate the story of interviewing John Lydon and having him hang up on me after about a minute and a half when I asked about his (to my mind, timely) old Afrika Bambaataa collaboration rather than the latest Sex Pistols reunion. Maybe he wasn't in the mood to be cornered/challenged that day?

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 5 March 2006 01:48 (twenty years ago)

are you guys trotting out the old Lydon chestnuts in a bid to be the next writers of Riff Raff?

― midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Sunday, 5 March 2006 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Peanut butter jelly time?

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Sunday, 5 March 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)

900

― o -- (eman), Sunday, 5 March 2006 06:20 (twenty years ago)

901!

― Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Sunday, 5 March 2006 06:24 (twenty years ago)

911.

never forget.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 5 March 2006 06:41 (twenty years ago)

4:20

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 5 March 2006 06:43 (twenty years ago)

And if Nick spilled his ramen, he could've made a flash animation of him using bounty = the quicker picker-upper.

sadly, there is no amount of paper towels that could clear up this kind of mess.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:28 (twenty years ago)

905

― o -- (eman), Sunday, 5 March 2006 08:10 (twenty years ago)

life is a pigsty

― noizem duke (noize duke), Sunday, 5 March 2006 09:04 (twenty years ago)

so, what's the latest?

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

GET ONE GAWKER

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:30 (twenty years ago)

haha ok this radar article on the game is actually pretty good.

http://www.radosh.net/images/PUA.jpg

i mean, maxim-level stuff but still.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I liked the part about Menudo.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)

wow that was actually funny

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Monday, 6 March 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)

that article explains a lot about momus.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 6 March 2006 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Dear Pitchfork:

When are you going to post a news story about this whole thing, explaining why Nick is no longer on your masthead? Or will he simply never be spoken of again, as though he never was a key member of your staff?

"What's up with you and Nick S man?/Y'all okay man?"

Yours Truly,
Indiefux4Life

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 March 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

C'mon, dude, we've always been at war with Eurasia.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 March 2006 21:02 (twenty years ago)

The Gawker coverage of this has gone way beyond neccesary. They need to move on.

― A. Poster, Monday, 6 March 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

I have not read this thread, as I really do enjoy my free time, but someone directed me to this. Some quick points:

-Nick is a really great person (in person), and this is what's most important.

-My "case" is in NO WAY similar to Nick's. For one, and most importantly, I did not make anything up. I made a typo when typing a year (1999) at 3am, which my "editor" at Pitchfork did not pick up.

-In fact, my editor of the Radiohead story referenced in that PFM piece, JC at Stop Smiling, completely backs up my story as reflected in the Beastie Boys review. Email him if you actually give a shit.

-Also, it was a RECORD REVIEW, not front page journalism.

-Finally, Ryan has no spine whatsoever, and posted that retracted under bluffed legal pressure. Notice how I didn't write it? I was willing to call Steve Martin's bluff. Ryan was protecting his baby, and he no lawyer/legal experience and was not.

- PS, Steve Martin is actually an asshole. He wrote Chunklet in anger over not making their asshole list. He loves it when you call him that. Try it sometime.

Anyway, enjoy your board.

― brent_D, Monday, 6 March 2006 23:35 (twenty years ago)

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